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08 January 2013, 09:14 PM
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Car crash TV or a genuine programme looking at a real issue for disabled people?
Can't decide personally.
Car crash TV or a genuine programme looking at a real issue for disabled people?
Can't decide personally.
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08 January 2013, 10:38 PM
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Tv programmers need to stop *****-footing around and introduce proper Victorian style freak shows - we are only a couple of steps away now and face it - thats why people watch this....to gawp at the freaks.
Then afterwards, they could show Gladiators. Not the lycra wearing ponces with foam padding everywhere, but proper Roman style fights to the death, people getting eaten by lions etc. I reckon it would be a ratings winner.
Then afterwards, they could show Gladiators. Not the lycra wearing ponces with foam padding everywhere, but proper Roman style fights to the death, people getting eaten by lions etc. I reckon it would be a ratings winner.
09 January 2013, 09:55 AM
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Tv programmers need to stop *****-footing around and introduce proper Victorian style freak shows - we are only a couple of steps away now and face it - thats why people watch this....to gawp at the freaks.
Then afterwards, they could show Gladiators. Not the lycra wearing ponces with foam padding everywhere, but proper Roman style fights to the death, people getting eaten by lions etc. I reckon it would be a ratings winner.
Then afterwards, they could show Gladiators. Not the lycra wearing ponces with foam padding everywhere, but proper Roman style fights to the death, people getting eaten by lions etc. I reckon it would be a ratings winner.
Liking your thinking there..... hahahahaha
09 January 2013, 11:11 AM
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I felt genuinely sorry for the attractive girl who'd had a stroke. The programme as a whole i usually find uplifting, but i have to ask, somebody like the autistic lad, is he just setting himself up for further anguish by going through the process? Does he have what it takes to ever have any sort of "normal" relationship? I'm not so sure.
09 January 2013, 11:17 AM
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I thought the big issue there was his mother. He looked like the sort that autistic or not, would complain about everything and his mother would just try to make it all better and/or wipe his backside.
The businesscard thing was just weird. I did feel sorry for the lass who had a stroke. I'm more impressed with the ones who are happy to go out with people they know might have issues though and ignore the problems. Most of the population wouldn't do that.
I thought the big issue there was his mother. He looked like the sort that autistic or not, would complain about everything and his mother would just try to make it all better and/or wipe his backside.
The businesscard thing was just weird. I did feel sorry for the lass who had a stroke. I'm more impressed with the ones who are happy to go out with people they know might have issues though and ignore the problems. Most of the population wouldn't do that.
09 January 2013, 11:26 AM
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Yep the Mum was odd. Dare i say it, the sort of person who you could quite readily believe bore an autistic child, being one molecule away from autistic herself in my opinion.
Brent with Tourette's seemed a really nice lad, although it was a bit Freak TV that they again focused on one of the sufferers who yelled expletives - most don't. But if it had been a "normal" lad who had dated a girl with Tourette's, i'm not sure it would have sat quite so comfortably, dunno.
Brent with Tourette's seemed a really nice lad, although it was a bit Freak TV that they again focused on one of the sufferers who yelled expletives - most don't. But if it had been a "normal" lad who had dated a girl with Tourette's, i'm not sure it would have sat quite so comfortably, dunno.
09 January 2013, 11:40 AM
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Tv programmers need to stop *****-footing around and introduce proper Victorian style freak shows - we are only a couple of steps away now and face it - thats why people watch this....to gawp at the freaks.
Then afterwards, they could show Gladiators. Not the lycra wearing ponces with foam padding everywhere, but proper Roman style fights to the death, people getting eaten by lions etc. I reckon it would be a ratings winner.
Then afterwards, they could show Gladiators. Not the lycra wearing ponces with foam padding everywhere, but proper Roman style fights to the death, people getting eaten by lions etc. I reckon it would be a ratings winner.
09 January 2013, 11:46 AM
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Viewing figures would be massive. There's a huge latent demand for it. Bullfighting, cockfighting, dogfighting. I blame the Romans. And Rollerball.
09 January 2013, 12:26 PM
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My friend is disabled (physically not mentally) and is keen to find a bloke. The problem is that people see the wheelchair before they see her.
She's currently trying on-line dating but if she mentions in her profile that she is disabled then she doesn't get any interest, not a bite. She's changed her details so it doesn't mention it and had lots of men get in touch, then she has the problem of when to tell them...
Some of them have sounded really nice, keen etc and then she mentions the wheelchair and doesn't hear another word, they don't even let her down gently.
I know it's a lot for someone to take on but it seems so unfair that she's pretty, bright, funny, tries to be as independent as possible, and just can't get a partner through no fault of her own.
She's currently trying on-line dating but if she mentions in her profile that she is disabled then she doesn't get any interest, not a bite. She's changed her details so it doesn't mention it and had lots of men get in touch, then she has the problem of when to tell them...
Some of them have sounded really nice, keen etc and then she mentions the wheelchair and doesn't hear another word, they don't even let her down gently.
I know it's a lot for someone to take on but it seems so unfair that she's pretty, bright, funny, tries to be as independent as possible, and just can't get a partner through no fault of her own.
09 January 2013, 12:41 PM
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Has she tried the sort of specialist dating agencies they tend to highlight in programmes such as The Undateables? And if not, why not? Surely she has enough insight to realise that for the overwhelming majority of able-bodied people on a "normal" dating site, a wheelchair-bound match is a complete no-no?
09 January 2013, 12:48 PM
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But what some people don't realise is, anyone can become disabled through an accident etc, she maybe a nice woman, but this is how the world is somewhat, I suppose going on dating sites, is not many blokes who are looking for a disabled woman..
09 January 2013, 01:00 PM
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Has she tried the sort of specialist dating agencies they tend to highlight in programmes such as The Undateables? And if not, why not? Surely she has enough insight to realise that for the overwhelming majority of able-bodied people on a "normal" dating site, a wheelchair-bound match is a complete no-no?
Thing is she doesn't like to be defined as disabled. As far as she's concerned she is a person who just happens to be in a wheelchair. She went to a mainstream school, has her own house and lives by herself, has normal hobbies like swimming and horse-riding, and is looking into driving lessons. She has never gone out of her way to socialise with other disabled people, all of her friends are able-bodied, so although she knows her own limitations I think joining a specialist site would be like admitting defeat in some way.
I did ask her once why she didn't want to join a club or something similar for disabled people but she said it would be a lot of hassle to date someone who was also in a wheelchair. To be fair it would be because it's bad enough trying to get one chair in a car let alone two.
I've known her since she was five, we're like sisters, and I forget sometimes how disabled she really is, just because I'm so used to her. Other friends have said the same thing; that once you get to know her you do forget she is in a chair. The problem is getting a bloke to think the same but I think it would take a very strong character to be able to do that.
09 January 2013, 01:04 PM
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Yep, you're right. Especially a disabled woman looking for a compassionate man, it's probably easier when it's the other way round. I do wish her the best in her search, but even for the most eligible singletons, you have to cast your net wide. I think she should try an agengy for disabled people and see what happens, but that's easy for me to say i realise.
09 January 2013, 01:19 PM
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Yep, you're right. Especially a disabled woman looking for a compassionate man, it's probably easier when it's the other way round. I do wish her the best in her search, but even for the most eligible singletons, you have to cast your net wide. I think she should try an agengy for disabled people and see what happens, but that's easy for me to say i realise.
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09 January 2013, 01:34 PM
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Watching that autistic man going on a first date with that second girl (not the first one called Kirsty), was ridiculous. I know he's autistic and everything but it seems to be more noticeable when he is on a date. When he was talking it was as if he was reading it off a script, or a job interview, or talking to her as if she was an alien. As already mentioned by someone else, his Mother certainly doesn't help IMO.... "ahhhh a Gentleman never tells!!"
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Watching that autistic man going on a first date with that second girl (not the first one called Kirsty), was ridiculous. I know he's autistic and everything but it seems to be more noticeable when he is on a date. When he was talking it was as if he was reading it off a script, or a job interview, or talking to her as if she was an alien. As already mentioned by someone else, his Mother certainly doesn't help IMO.... "ahhhh a Gentleman never tells!!"
She didn't think it was ridiculous though. She said she had butterflies in her tummy and she wanted to see him again.
Good luck to them
It's not like all 'normal' people are that fantastic at relationships is it?I think I was more disturbed watching "What Happens In Kavos" to be honest.
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Lydia, under no circumstances encourage your friend to use a disabled dating site. She is clearly not in the same league, just as the girl that suffered a stroke isn't.
On a physical disability point, not mental, DYK makes the most valid point above about how easy it is to become disabled through an accident. Does that mean posters here would recommend a disabled dating site to their best mate, the same person they shared great times over many years at events, parties, concerts, work etc if they knew that person better than most? Absolutely not! They'd see their friend as no different. Of course there are a few more problems to face and daily obstacles to work round but as far as friendship goes it shouldn't change.
Lydia, your friend will meet someone who can see above her disability but she'll need to be active in her search of course. By that I mean chatting online or getting out but not trying too hard to be in a relationship. The right person will arrive.
Mentioning the wheelchair immediately is always going to be a problem on any dating sites as most people haven't got a clue what it would entail and they'd also not have the personality to cope with explaining their reasons to their own friends and family as to why they chose to date someone in a wheelchair, so they'd rather move on quickly. That says far more about the other person than the wheelchair user who may well be attractive, intelligent, capable, successful and popular. At least when chatting to someone in a pub for instance there is no hiding the wheelchair.
On a physical disability point, not mental, DYK makes the most valid point above about how easy it is to become disabled through an accident. Does that mean posters here would recommend a disabled dating site to their best mate, the same person they shared great times over many years at events, parties, concerts, work etc if they knew that person better than most? Absolutely not! They'd see their friend as no different. Of course there are a few more problems to face and daily obstacles to work round but as far as friendship goes it shouldn't change.
Lydia, your friend will meet someone who can see above her disability but she'll need to be active in her search of course. By that I mean chatting online or getting out but not trying too hard to be in a relationship. The right person will arrive.
Mentioning the wheelchair immediately is always going to be a problem on any dating sites as most people haven't got a clue what it would entail and they'd also not have the personality to cope with explaining their reasons to their own friends and family as to why they chose to date someone in a wheelchair, so they'd rather move on quickly. That says far more about the other person than the wheelchair user who may well be attractive, intelligent, capable, successful and popular. At least when chatting to someone in a pub for instance there is no hiding the wheelchair.