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03 January 2013, 06:08 AM
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but when it comes to loyalty and friendly dogs you can't beat them they are mixed though as it seems you can really get a 100% breed unless you get it from reputable breeder,the brindle one is staff and American pitball mix seen and know both parents good dogs with kids,and the white one is staff and American bulldog mix,he is small now but he's going to be a big dog you should see his parents
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03 January 2013, 09:49 AM
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Very cute. They do have a bad rep mainly due to the stereotypical tracksuit wearing owners. One of my ex’s had a brindle one that was more likely to lick you to death than anything else.
My wife and I were looking at getting at dog but doesn’t fit in with our lives currently. So we opted to adopt 2 kittens from a local Rescue Centre and collect them on Saturday. A few puppies and kittens turned up over Xmas as unwanted presents. Unbelievable that in this day & age that people still buy pets as “surprise” presents.
My wife and I were looking at getting at dog but doesn’t fit in with our lives currently. So we opted to adopt 2 kittens from a local Rescue Centre and collect them on Saturday. A few puppies and kittens turned up over Xmas as unwanted presents. Unbelievable that in this day & age that people still buy pets as “surprise” presents.
03 January 2013, 11:16 AM
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Tell me about it!!!I've had staffs before so know how hypo they are but when it comes to loyalty and friendly dogs you can't beat them they are mixed though as it seems you can really get a 100% breed unless you get it from reputable breeder,the brindle one is staff and American pitball mix seen and know both parents good dogs with kids,and the white one is staff and American bulldog mix,he is small now but he's going to be a big dog you should see his parents.
but when it comes to loyalty and friendly dogs you can't beat them they are mixed though as it seems you can really get a 100% breed unless you get it from reputable breeder,the brindle one is staff and American pitball mix seen and know both parents good dogs with kids,and the white one is staff and American bulldog mix,he is small now but he's going to be a big dog you should see his parents.
03 January 2013, 12:15 PM
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03 January 2013, 01:28 PM
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03 January 2013, 01:30 PM
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Read post 12.And just one more thing I would like to add is when I was growing up in the 1970's the german Shepard which the police use and is one of the most intelligent dogs in my opinion as I have also had one,was in the news paper every week for biting children a dogs behaviour will always come down to how the owner trains them.there is alot of dogs out there which are being mistreated and abused as I'm typing this reply,as humans get disturbed by getting Ill treated,the same applies more so to animals.
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03 January 2013, 02:18 PM
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03 January 2013, 03:55 PM
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This is not 100% true unfortunately. Yes training shapes a dog and it's behaviour towards its owners and others however it does not have any affect on any underlying 'triggers' that dog may have or any psychological defects in it's character.
To give an example, a yellow Labrador at a dogs home I once helped out at looked and acted as lovely as any other Labrador you would meet. However the reason he was in there is because his trigger/point at which he lost control was if his ears were rubbed and it touched a certain point. His owner found that out when the dog mauled his face off after rubbing the dogs ears and unknowingly hitting that trigger. He refused to have the dog destroyed but it was destined to live the rest of it's life in the dogs home as it wasn't safe to be rehomed.
I am a firm believer that all dogs have a trigger where they will react in an extremely negative way but thankfully the majority of dogs never have that trigger activated due to it taking something very severe to find it.
These dogs that have all of a sudden gone from being one of the family and great with kids to then mauling a child have had their trigger activated, most likely by a certain pitch of noise the child has made making the dog attack the child.
It is only my stance on how it works and others will rubbish it however from the dogs I have grown up with and then owned myself and also ones I have helped look after at a dogs home I come to that opinion through my own experiences and how i've seen dogs react to certain situations.
I have 2 Labradors who are utterly amazing with my children and treat my 2 year old as if he was a puppy of theirs licking him and guarding him etc. However I would never leave any of my children on their own in a room with either of my 2 dogs as no dog however much you think they are great with children are 100% trustworthy. Training does not come into it in that respect.
To give an example, a yellow Labrador at a dogs home I once helped out at looked and acted as lovely as any other Labrador you would meet. However the reason he was in there is because his trigger/point at which he lost control was if his ears were rubbed and it touched a certain point. His owner found that out when the dog mauled his face off after rubbing the dogs ears and unknowingly hitting that trigger. He refused to have the dog destroyed but it was destined to live the rest of it's life in the dogs home as it wasn't safe to be rehomed.
I am a firm believer that all dogs have a trigger where they will react in an extremely negative way but thankfully the majority of dogs never have that trigger activated due to it taking something very severe to find it.
These dogs that have all of a sudden gone from being one of the family and great with kids to then mauling a child have had their trigger activated, most likely by a certain pitch of noise the child has made making the dog attack the child.
It is only my stance on how it works and others will rubbish it however from the dogs I have grown up with and then owned myself and also ones I have helped look after at a dogs home I come to that opinion through my own experiences and how i've seen dogs react to certain situations.
I have 2 Labradors who are utterly amazing with my children and treat my 2 year old as if he was a puppy of theirs licking him and guarding him etc. However I would never leave any of my children on their own in a room with either of my 2 dogs as no dog however much you think they are great with children are 100% trustworthy. Training does not come into it in that respect.
03 January 2013, 04:00 PM
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03 January 2013, 04:13 PM
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This is not 100% true unfortunately. Yes training shapes a dog and it's behaviour towards its owners and others however it does not have any affect on any underlying 'triggers' that dog may have or any psychological defects in it's character.
To give an example, a yellow Labrador at a dogs home I once helped out at looked and acted as lovely as any other Labrador you would meet. However the reason he was in there is because his trigger/point at which he lost control was if his ears were rubbed and it touched a certain point. His owner found that out when the dog mauled his face off after rubbing the dogs ears and unknowingly hitting that trigger. He refused to have the dog destroyed but it was destined to live the rest of it's life in the dogs home as it wasn't safe to be rehomed.
I am a firm believer that all dogs have a trigger where they will react in an extremely negative way but thankfully the majority of dogs never have that trigger activated due to it taking something very severe to find it.
These dogs that have all of a sudden gone from being one of the family and great with kids to then mauling a child have had their trigger activated, most likely by a certain pitch of noise the child has made making the dog attack the child.
It is only my stance on how it works and others will rubbish it however from the dogs I have grown up with and then owned myself and also ones I have helped look after at a dogs home I come to that opinion through my own experiences and how i've seen dogs react to certain situations.
I have 2 Labradors who are utterly amazing with my children and treat my 2 year old as if he was a puppy of theirs licking him and guarding him etc. However I would never leave any of my children on their own in a room with either of my 2 dogs as no dog however much you think they are great with children are 100% trustworthy. Training does not come into it in that respect.
To give an example, a yellow Labrador at a dogs home I once helped out at looked and acted as lovely as any other Labrador you would meet. However the reason he was in there is because his trigger/point at which he lost control was if his ears were rubbed and it touched a certain point. His owner found that out when the dog mauled his face off after rubbing the dogs ears and unknowingly hitting that trigger. He refused to have the dog destroyed but it was destined to live the rest of it's life in the dogs home as it wasn't safe to be rehomed.
I am a firm believer that all dogs have a trigger where they will react in an extremely negative way but thankfully the majority of dogs never have that trigger activated due to it taking something very severe to find it.
These dogs that have all of a sudden gone from being one of the family and great with kids to then mauling a child have had their trigger activated, most likely by a certain pitch of noise the child has made making the dog attack the child.
It is only my stance on how it works and others will rubbish it however from the dogs I have grown up with and then owned myself and also ones I have helped look after at a dogs home I come to that opinion through my own experiences and how i've seen dogs react to certain situations.
I have 2 Labradors who are utterly amazing with my children and treat my 2 year old as if he was a puppy of theirs licking him and guarding him etc. However I would never leave any of my children on their own in a room with either of my 2 dogs as no dog however much you think they are great with children are 100% trustworthy. Training does not come into it in that respect.
03 January 2013, 04:42 PM
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Triggers exist in dogs as part of their make up, they aren't derived necessarily through life experiences, they are born with their triggers. I'm just saying that thinking a dog is entirely safe/trustworthy just because you have treated it and trained it well is a dangerous assumption to make when children are involved.
Those people who have had their family pet maul one of their kids thought their dog was safe and trustworthy but learnt a very sad and difficult lesson. No dog whatever their training should ever be left alone with a child.
Those people who have had their family pet maul one of their kids thought their dog was safe and trustworthy but learnt a very sad and difficult lesson. No dog whatever their training should ever be left alone with a child.
03 January 2013, 05:00 PM
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I would be very careful of telling the world I own a pitty, even if its as soft as a lamb and has no history of agression it can be siezed. It only has to be of "type" type is the description of dogs in the DDA (Dangerous dogs act)
A staffy lab cross would fit the description perfectly and plenty have been siezed and destroyed.
The white pup is beautiful and no doubt she will be a great dog but the brown nose and blue eyes will get her into trouble if a dog warden sees her
These two points are of type, if she grows up muscular and tall above 16" at the shoulder she could be taken from you.
The brindle stands a better chance of "He's a staffy cross officer"
Good luck with them, they are very nice dogs but you will need to be the perfect responsible owner
How do I know about the DDA? Ive worked with Staffy rescue for years. People ocall us asking to rehome thier Staffy, when I go to asess the dogs im often presented with a pb type. Theres no way I can help them I'm afraid
A staffy lab cross would fit the description perfectly and plenty have been siezed and destroyed.
The white pup is beautiful and no doubt she will be a great dog but the brown nose and blue eyes will get her into trouble if a dog warden sees her
These two points are of type, if she grows up muscular and tall above 16" at the shoulder she could be taken from you.
The brindle stands a better chance of "He's a staffy cross officer"
Good luck with them, they are very nice dogs but you will need to be the perfect responsible owner
How do I know about the DDA? Ive worked with Staffy rescue for years. People ocall us asking to rehome thier Staffy, when I go to asess the dogs im often presented with a pb type. Theres no way I can help them I'm afraid
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03 January 2013, 05:01 PM
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Triggers exist in dogs as part of their make up, they aren't derived necessarily through life experiences, they are born with their triggers. I'm just saying that thinking a dog is entirely safe/trustworthy just because you have treated it and trained it well is a dangerous assumption to make when children are involved.
Those people who have had their family pet maul one of their kids thought their dog was safe and trustworthy but learnt a very sad and difficult lesson. No dog whatever their training should ever be left alone with a child.
Those people who have had their family pet maul one of their kids thought their dog was safe and trustworthy but learnt a very sad and difficult lesson. No dog whatever their training should ever be left alone with a child.
03 January 2013, 05:05 PM
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As i said i respect your opinion but you must understand any living thing reacts to something.a child can not control a full grown dog but a dog that grows with a child and is part of it's life also acknowledges that fact.humans can be more untrustworthy then certain animals you wont get a dog pick up a bag full of guns and go on a shooting spree.so I'll carry on being the kind of responsible dog owner I can be.so on that trigger conversation I will agree to disagree with you,but your comments have been welcome and a different perspective to view dog ownership.
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