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Old 20 December 2012, 12:34 PM
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Our cat is now 9 months old , we originally wanted to keep he as a house cat but its not going too well, she's been neuted.

Do we have to anything to like integrate her for the outside, how do we know if she'll come back? What hours do they go out at?
Old 20 December 2012, 12:38 PM
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1st of all why isnt it going well? we have 3 house cats and they are fine

i couldnt let my cats out for fear of them being killed/tortured by cat haters or them not coming back
Old 20 December 2012, 12:40 PM
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It pulled the tree over , despite trying everything regarding litter and trays it pisses next to it, pisses in the bath.

It's driving the wife crazy
Old 20 December 2012, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Ant
It pulled the tree over , despite trying everything regarding litter and trays it pisses next to it, pisses in the bath.

It's driving the wife crazy
what litter are you using and is it changed quite often? mine wont use the tray if its got to much **** and **** in it

pulling the tree down? you must be having a laugh,you put something up in the lounge with dangly things on it...............what do you think would happen? an outdoor car will pull it over unless you lock it outside until xmas is over

we use catsan litter £9 from morrisons for a massive bag lasts around a week and half roughly,we have to trays 1 upstairs and 1 downstairs
Old 20 December 2012, 12:57 PM
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We use catsan too, we change it daily but won't stop her, she's been good up until now. It's not the fact it's the tree it's broke our little girls first Xmas bauble
Old 20 December 2012, 01:01 PM
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Yet more reasons not to keep cats
Old 20 December 2012, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Ant
We use catsan too, we change it daily but won't stop her, she's been good up until now. It's not the fact it's the tree it's broke our little girls first Xmas bauble
as i said it didnt pull it down just because its an indoor cat-any cat would pull it down

try different litter mate
Old 20 December 2012, 01:07 PM
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We just though it was down to her boredom, we've changed litter and its not worked so just gone back to catsan.
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Originally Posted by Ant
We just though it was down to her boredom, we've changed litter and its not worked so just gone back to catsan.
hhmmm not sure,maybe ask a vet or join a forum for indoor cats
Old 20 December 2012, 01:20 PM
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A urinary infection is something we've not looked at tbh
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Try using the microgranule litter. Catsan is a bit lumpy, and may feel uncomfortable on her paws. Also, don't put her tray near her food. Sawdust may be another option. Maybe you're keeping the tray TOO clean? Obviously clean out the poo and clumps of wee, but don't wash it out totally every time, just so it has a little whiff of her about it, until she gets used to it. Feliway pheromone spray might help.
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While I've got the catperts here , how can we keep her off the kitchen top?

Cheers splicer ill give that a whirl .
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Originally Posted by Ant
While I've got the catperts here , how can we keep her off the kitchen top?

Cheers splicer ill give that a whirl .
erm you wont,one thing we used as cats hate the smell is lemon,our cats use to scratch the wallpaper/corner of sofa so we replaced and wiped a cut in half lemon on it...................the cats never touched it again

one thing to note is cats like being up high so we spent £100 on a massive cat tree with 3 beds/2 houses/walkways/baskets etc,it goes to our ceiling and is about 7 foot long
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Encourage good behaviour with treats, bad behaviour gets the finger wagged in the face with "No". Pushing their head down towards where they have just made a mess also works in the long run, helping to deter the bad behaviour.

As for letting her out it's really up to you but as a matter of course I would make sure all jabs are up-to-date. To help encourage her back, let her out just before mealtime so she will be hungry and not venture too far - worked with both of mine.
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To echo what oldsplice said, make sure the tray isn't too clean. She'll need her scent as a kind of reassurance. Neve use bleach or disinfectant on the tray when you clean it.

Introducing her outside isn't as hard as you think. You'll need to walk her round her 'territory' a few times, letting her get used to the smell and the sights. Let her walk around a bit before taking her back inside. One trick we've used with ours is to not feed them before you let them go out on their own.

Have you installed a cat flap?
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Cheers people , funny you mentioned lemon the wife bought some cat spray thing and it stinks of Lemon as she's been trying her best to stop it from pissing in the usual places
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We don't have a cat flap
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also if a cat is naughty then it must be told straight away not later in the day as it wont know what your blabbing about

buy a cat harness and take it outside for a walk in the garden,our cats love to roll around on the grass etc,also indoor cats need indoor cat food ie go-cat indoors etc
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Our cat Murphy lived with us for 3 years when we in a flat.
Because of this, he was always terrified of going outside. We tried several times and sat outside with him but he wouldn't move. The we moved into our house 2 years ago. Within a month, he was going outside and bugs us all the time to go out.

We have a car park area to the rear of our garden and all the 'local' cats seem to hang out there. I have found him down the road a few times as well!

I would rather he have some freedom than be stuck indoors all day!

As for times, he stays in when we are out. If we are in, he just tells us when he wants to go out or come back in. Most of the time he still uses he litter box. He does go on the grass occassionally too.
Old 20 December 2012, 02:12 PM
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It is unnatural for the cat to be kept indoors. It does affect their behaviour adversely too.

Cats always come back to where they get their food so I don't think you need to worry too much. She might stay out for a longish time initially but she will return when she is hungry. She will eventually get used to being outside for a period of time and then returning.

A catflap which can be locked for each direction independently is well worth having too.

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Is it your guitsr playing driving the cat a bit crazy?



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Give me another week DL and ill be heading Glastonbury
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Originally Posted by Ant
Give me another week DL and ill be heading Glastonbury
I can see it now with the cat helping you to pack your bags!



I know it sounds a bit odd, but are you sure it isn't the guitar?
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Originally Posted by Ant
Give me another week DL and ill be heading Glastonbury
Is Glastonbury next week?
Old 20 December 2012, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Is Glastonbury next week?
Yes it's been held in my man cave .

I'm support and headlining
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Originally Posted by Gear Head
I can see it now with the cat helping you to pack your bags!



I know it sounds a bit odd, but are you sure it isn't the guitar?
No as it started before then and I practice upstairs away from the cat and the child
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Ant, your cat is doing one of two things.

1) telling you she has a bladder issue (check her pee for blood or watch her when she pees and see if she is in discomfort). Quite often cats have a sensitive urinary tract. Not a problem you just need to change her diet to something like Hill's C/D (Vet Med Direct sell it). You could try it as it just as good for a cat without a urinary tract problem. Try it for a week and see if she improves.

2) It is a territory issue. Female cats like to have a wider territory than neutered males so it maybe that she feels hemmed in if you like. The other thing might be the environment. Give her a way of getting off the ground (big cat playland or something like that) as quite often cats feel vulnerable if they are always 'low down' (relative to their surrounding - just in case you suggested taking her upstairs ). You could also try relocating her litter tray as it maybe soemthing as simple as that!

The worktop issue is best solved by conditioning. Get a small water pistol (not a f**k off super soaker ) and when she jumps on the worktop give her a (little) spray. She will soon get the message. Bear in mind what I said in 2) though about environment. The kitchen worktop may be attractibve to her because of the height!

Hope that helps
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one comment i would make is dont change the litter every day, its needs to smell of them to make them think its theres.
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Looks like I'm buying one of them play stands then, thanks for the advice.

We have a water bottle that we just have to shake to give her the message.
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Originally Posted by Ant
No as it started before then and I practice upstairs away from the cat and the child
Well at least you make some effort to save their ears from bleeding!


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