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Old 18 December 2012, 05:17 PM
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Default Why don't motorbikes have a front reg plate?

I know years ago they would fold out into the wheel causing obvious safety issues but surely technology has moved on and we can now make a safe front plate for motor bikes!

It seems my car plates are just there as easy access for speeding camera's to get monies from me while the chap on his sports bike goes past on his back wheel laughing at the cameras!
Old 18 December 2012, 05:36 PM
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There was something on the web a few years back where a biker kept wheeling past a speed camera. The cops got him due to his style of jacket. They may think its clever but the police will find you if they put thier mind to it.
Old 18 December 2012, 07:02 PM
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I'd make them have a QR code on all sides of their helmet, and cyclists too ! Could be really small yet still be read by modern surveillance cameras.
Old 18 December 2012, 07:02 PM
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This is an awseome thread huh?

I think we should have no reg plates at all!!

Its an invasion of my privacy.....
Old 18 December 2012, 07:08 PM
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It's a safety issue, a front plate being potentially lethal to pedestrians in a minor collision. Also where would you fit one big enough to read. It is quite a handy safety feature when going past foreward facing speed cameras,saves having to brake hard like evryone else causing the person behind to rear end you.
Old 18 December 2012, 07:16 PM
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Bike haters thread?
Old 18 December 2012, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Twin Fields
Bike haters thread?
Not at all...but IF speed cameras are for safety purposes, then surely, bikers, who make up only 4% of road users, yet are involved in 38% of serious accidents and fatalities, ought to be targeted?

Yet the present love of the forward facing camera so they can see who is driving, makes it impossible to catch speeding bikers.
Old 18 December 2012, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Not at all...but IF speed cameras are for safety purposes, then surely, bikers, who make up only 4% of road users, yet are involved in 38% of serious accidents and fatalities, ought to be targeted?

Yet the present love of the forward facing camera so they can see who is driving, makes it impossible to catch speeding bikers.
Let's face it we all know cameras are there to raise revenue, so it makes little sense to invest in catching motorcyclists when they are such a minority of road users.
Old 18 December 2012, 07:40 PM
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People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, how many of us on here have total legal cars & never break the law? Do we all really want more legislation to target road users wether on 2 or 4 wheels?
Old 18 December 2012, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by corradoboy
I'd make them have a QR code on all sides of their helmet, and cyclists too ! Could be really small yet still be read by modern surveillance cameras.
+1
Old 18 December 2012, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
but IF speed cameras are for safety
Now that is a big IF.

As a motorcyclist myself I do tend to adhere to restricted speed limits, 30's, 40's and 50's where you would be more likely to encounter a speed camera, but not just for the sake of the speed camera itself, but these restricted areas are more likely to be a stretch of road that is or has been associated with a higher percentage of potential danger to either the road user or pedestrians.

People just tend to slow down at speed camera sites, regardless of which way they are facing and then just speed off again. This isn't any different for bikers. Once motorists are familiar with speed cameras then they tend to ignore the reason they were put there in the first place!
Old 18 December 2012, 07:49 PM
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It's a trade off really they get away with speeding but end up being organ donors

I'm an ex biker and lost several mates over the years.
Old 18 December 2012, 07:52 PM
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Two flaws.
1. Not a legal requirement for cyclists to wear helmets.
2. What abouts motorcycling Sikhs who don't have to wear helmets, i don't think it would be practical to print it on their turbans

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Originally Posted by corradoboy
I'd make them have a QR code on all sides of their helmet, and cyclists too ! Could be really small yet still be read by modern surveillance cameras.
Old 18 December 2012, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by nik52wrx
What abouts motorcycling Sikhs who don't have to wear helmets
I used to work with an Indian (Sikh) who was knocked off of his Honda step through whilst wearing a turban. He suffered extensive head injuries and was awarded enough money in damages to buy a house.

Every cloud has a silver lining!
Old 18 December 2012, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by nik52wrx
Two flaws.
1. Not a legal requirement for cyclists to wear helmets.

Nik
You're right in that there is no legal requirement for cyclists to wear helmets, but this is a thread about MOTORcyclists where there is a legal requirement.

To the OP, where on earth on the front of a motorbike would you put a reg plate, safely?! Your argument is why most new cameras are rear facing cameras ie they catch the rear plate so get cars and motorcyclists too.
Old 18 December 2012, 08:11 PM
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I know, I was responding to corradoboys comment regarding cyclists

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Originally Posted by ritchie21
You're right in that there is no legal requirement for cyclists to wear helmets, but this is a thread about MOTORcyclists where there is a legal requirement.

To the OP, where on earth on the front of a motorbike would you put a reg plate, safely?! Your argument is why most new cameras are rear facing cameras ie they catch the rear plate so get cars and motorcyclists too.
Old 18 December 2012, 09:07 PM
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But ACPO guidelines specify that new cameras should be forward facing?
Old 18 December 2012, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Not at all...but IF speed cameras are for safety purposes, then surely, bikers, who make up only 4% of road users, yet are involved in 38% of serious accidents and fatalities, ought to be targeted?

Yet the present love of the forward facing camera so they can see who is driving, makes it impossible to catch speeding bikers.
...but for some "strange" reason, the A38 between Weeford and Bassets Pole (near Brum) has REAR facing (yellow) SPECS cameras And that'll be on a junction-less stretch of rural dual-carriageway that was until recently a NSL 70mph but then got reduced to an un-natural 60mph limit (whilst extra barriers were fitted, along with improved cats-eyes and a better road surface)!

Obviously nothing to do with the regular summer biker's meets at Bassets Pole

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Old 18 December 2012, 10:18 PM
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cause we fecking dont need one, so there ! now go moan about something else !
Old 18 December 2012, 10:28 PM
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Is it true you can ride a pushbike at any speed over the limit past a speed trap with no recourse?
Old 18 December 2012, 10:38 PM
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Way back in the day I used to have motorbikes - with front numberplates ..... I was one of those old boys who could ride a bike WITHOUT the need to have a High Beam on looking like a right dick.

Anyway - a lady stepped in front of me and my front numberplate went between her legs - it took them 2 days to wipe the smile off her face ........ and that's the reason they were banned.
Old 19 December 2012, 12:27 AM
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Fantastic contribution.
Old 19 December 2012, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by nik52wrx
Two flaws.
1. Not a legal requirement for cyclists to wear helmets.
2. What abouts motorcycling Sikhs who don't have to wear helmets, i don't think it would be practical to print it on their turbans

Nik
1. It bloody would be if I were God, as well as proper tuition, testing & licensing, min 3rd party insurance, bicycle road-worthyness tests (MOT), and compulsory carrying of functioning lighting (and enforcement to ensure its use in darkness).

2. I'm not a big fan of religion, and especially when it is used to flout the law, so the human rights lawyers could go swivel on this one. If you don't like it, sod off to somewhere that does allow it !
Old 19 December 2012, 06:31 AM
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In Singapore they manage and its not how we used to mount them.
Old 19 December 2012, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Beastie
In Singapore they manage and its not how we used to mount them.
A lot of no bikes have no fairings or screen,where you going to put that little sticker on those?
Old 19 December 2012, 07:50 AM
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Lets say we stick a legal number plate on the front of the bike on the left fork closest to the pavement. Its gonna stop air flowing into the rad 1st off, 2ndly its gonna make the bike slightly unstable all be it very very minor adjustments.
Old 19 December 2012, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I was one of those old boys who could ride a bike WITHOUT the need to have a High Beam on looking like a right dick.
If you'd ever been knocked off by a car driver or hit a pedestrian who'd stepped out into the road in front of you and then said "I didn't see you," you'd be quite happy to ride along with the high beam on and risk "looking like a right dick" in an attempt to stop other road users from pulling out in front of you and the same thing happening again.

I always ride along with high beam on when filtering through stationary or slow moving traffic, but then turn it off when the traffic eases!
Old 19 December 2012, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by nik52wrx
What abouts motorcycling Sikhs who don't have to wear helmets
That's crazy
Old 19 December 2012, 10:09 AM
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Rear-facing SPECS cameras on the M25 now. That will p1ss on a few parades. And rightly so.
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My ex Impreza had no front plate and I used to really enjoy blasting through the SPECS cameras in it

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