Mouser

Wednesday (tonight) at 21.00 BBC 1. Using cycle helmet camera footage to capture "errant" road users. Hope it is a balanced view. Should be interesting.

joz8968

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Will be watching.

[cynacism]As you elude to, it will be interesting if the program makers - or indeed the BBC itself - have an obvious agenda, one way or t'other.[/cynacism]

SJ_Skyline

Of course it won't be balanced, it's the BBC ffs...

urban

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I will be watching, many cyclists (note - not all) do themselves no favours though.
I guess you could say the same about some in vehicles.

There can be no enjoyment out of cycling to work though, I would have thought that the journey each day would fill there head with terror.

BOB.T

How can there be when you end up at w*rk?!

f1_fan

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Another load of biased sanctimonous cyclist nonsense no doubt!

Some cyclists are idiots, some car drivers are idiots! C'est la vie!

urban

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Yeah, but you must stink by the time you get to work, then there's the weather.

pslewis

Tax Cyclists £150 a year road tax - they take up the whole damned lane anyway!!

Introduce a £50 a year helmet tax ...... and £500 a year if it also contains an "I'm a ******** Camera"

£40 a year Inner Tube Tax and compulsory Insurance ... that should put the selfish planks in their place!

joz8968

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lol

Matteeboy

Arm all cyclists with a free Glock to shoot drivers like pslewis? ;-)

belliott69

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I don't like to say this to often, but spot on f1.

Funkii Munkii

Likewise

SJ_Skyline

Thanks Pete, reminded me to renew my cycle insurance

legb4rsk

Just imagine if the bicycle had just been invented today.
Do you think the Department of Transport would allow it on the road?
If they did a Health & Safety evaluation & you said,

'I have just invented this flimsy contraption with no safety features or protection & I don't need any testing of my ability or training or insurance or any knowledge of the Highway Code and I want to ride it on the road with cars,lorries & buses,some traveling at up to 60 mph..Also I don't want to wear any safety clothing or any high visibility devices & I definitely wont be wearing a crash helmet.Also there wont be any M.O.T. or any build quality or structural tests or any road worthiness tests of any kind to check the safety or integrity of my vehicle or any specification for lights.'

I could go on....................

Matteeboy

On the other hand there are many cyclists riding very well made bikes that would outlast any car on the road, using lights more powerful and far more high tech than those on a car (HIDs/xenons are ancient tech for bike lights now), always wearing high vis kit and using IAM defensive riding techniques to try and ensure they are as safe as possible.

While at the same time 99% of drivers have only passed a basic test that doesn't even include motorway or night driving yet can buy a 200+mph supercar, 3 tonne SUV or small lorry if they can afford one.

Cyclists usually own at least one car which they will pay tax on, they will have paid VAT on the bike and all accessories, place far less strain on the NHS so long as they don't get run over by lardy, stressed, heart disease prone ignorant drivers yet place a negligible amount of wear and tear on the roads.

bioforger

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"Contains upsetting scenes"

Hopefully some camcunts being mown down then.

legb4rsk

Great,but non of it is Law!!! I am saying we need to level the playing field.
Nowhere near enough do the above.There are huge amounts of rules & regs for other road users.I have seen plenty of bikes at night with no lights & dark clothing.

Moley

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Matteeboy

IMO stupid/unsafe cyclists deserve all they get.

But if I get run over (almost been twice), at least I know I was seen so it's the drivers own fault.

Some bike light regulation wouldn't go amiss though; I'd be happy with that. and maybe some mandatory insurance. And a ban on male cyclists wearing lyra shorts. Anything else can f3ck off.

davyboy

Hang your head in shame. Lycra and shaved legs should be he law for male cyclists.

Matteeboy

This is where the problem starts...

Mouser

Felt sorry for the lady who lost her daughter.
God knows what those cyclists at the end of the programme were trying to prove.

SJ_Skyline

That Darwin was right.


Equal measure of bell end cyclists and bell end drivers, plus some of the good guys on both sides. Reminded me why I stick to off-road cycling as much as possible.

davyboy

I thought it was fairly balanced.

How the killing a cyclist was accidental death I will never know.

Couriers at the end were complete bell ends.

I've been accosted by a fellow cyclist for jumping a red light this year. He actually happened to be in my cycling club! Needless to say we didn't agree.

Frosticles

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Really disliked the smug lad with the glasses. I bet he was bullied at school!

bustaMOVEs

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These cyclists I can understand their frustration to things like being knocked down or maybe killed and both the cyclists and car/van/truck drivers are to blame.
But these cyclists are acting like right tools, taking over the roads on the programme and just dam right rude in how they use themselfs (always right).
There needs to be number plates or something on the cycles and they don't pay nothing to be on the roads and still they are right which it's clearly shown that some of them are complete *****. The love to provoke folk.
I completely understand both sides on this but if they are treated the same as motorists with the laws like motorbikes then there would not be non of this going on.
The government rules are fecked.

davyboy

Yeah, being killed or knocked down can be a really frustrating.

Don't be an idiot and talk about paying for the road. I'd suggest most of them already own a car anyway. Being treated the same as motorbikes is dumb too, they don't have engines. Being treated the same as horses is a better example. People take care around horses.

Miniman

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Interesting. Fair play to the lady who lost her daughter - really tried to get something positive out of her death.

I drive and ride to work (on different days), so I think I see both sides of the same traffic (into a busy town - though not London). I do stop for red lights, don't wear lycra, and don't feel the need to abuse people who do silly things. I also try the - fast as possible and set a new time - when riding method. But I do look out for lorries/truck/buses, because it'll be no good me arguing with my maker that the lorry should have seen me. To the point where on a particular junction I often stop (regardless that it's my right of way) and wait for the gap.

I take the view that the metal is going to win in a fight with me and ride accordingly.

Camsedin

a horse has a mind of its own.. a bike is controlled by the person.

I don't mind people on bikes.
they should stay in there little cycle lanes.. isn't that what they where made for?

plus if they slapped my car id snap there hand off. they would not like me slapping there bike lol

davyboy

If they can hit your car you are to close.