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I've not had a smoke for a year or so now; good heavens I miss it! I'm just enjoying a bottle of Henry Weston's Vintage and could still murder a Marlboro Light!
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Next month I will celebrate 62 years of being a non smoker, quite an achievement because during my teenage years and as a twenty year old smoking was the thing to do.
I hate to think how much secondary smoke entered my lungs during those younger years.
I hate to think how much secondary smoke entered my lungs during those younger years.
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It's only fair that I point out to anyone thinking of giving up that my cravings are way less severe and frequent than they were six months ago:
https://www.scoobynet.com/showpost.p...1&postcount=22
I now go entire days without thinking about smoking something and often when I do I don't actually crave tobacco.
https://www.scoobynet.com/showpost.p...1&postcount=22
I now go entire days without thinking about smoking something and often when I do I don't actually crave tobacco.
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Well done on a year off the ******* horrible things -stick with it now for real quality of life, not the imaginary one you get when you're confused by nicotine.
My eldest brother is a heart and lung specialist who spends his life trying to help COPD patients while they, basically, drown on dry land from the damage caused by smoking. Note "helps" as there is no cure. Smokers quite often come up to him at parties and ask him what he does and when he tells them, they usually say " oh, I suppose you're going to tell me to put this out"? To which his stock (joke) reply is "Not at all, I've got 3 kids to put through college - puff away. You will get sick...".
My mum (chain smoker) died at 47 from a massive stroke caused in the doc's opinion by the smoking - it's not just cancer that gets you with tobacco.
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My eldest brother is a heart and lung specialist who spends his life trying to help COPD patients while they, basically, drown on dry land from the damage caused by smoking. Note "helps" as there is no cure. Smokers quite often come up to him at parties and ask him what he does and when he tells them, they usually say " oh, I suppose you're going to tell me to put this out"? To which his stock (joke) reply is "Not at all, I've got 3 kids to put through college - puff away. You will get sick...".
My mum (chain smoker) died at 47 from a massive stroke caused in the doc's opinion by the smoking - it's not just cancer that gets you with tobacco.
FB (ex smoker too)
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Well I'm a day into it now. Got the lozenges from Boots yesterday. Got past my dinner and breakfast so far which is always the hardest part so fingers crossed
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I'm on day 4 of Champix, No funny side effects yet. I have almost halfed my usual daily smoking amount already though so it looks promising for the time being.
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Off the **** for nearly 5 years now. Best thing I ever did and have promised myself another will not touch my lips for as long as I live. Best thing I ever did, smokers are suckers and I was one for far too many years.
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Quit 15 months ago, never looked back, spent over 30k in **** over the years too
Never had a craving, nor an urge, I look in the shops at the price of them now and just quietly laugh to myself
My Dad has COPD and will never recover from it
Never had a craving, nor an urge, I look in the shops at the price of them now and just quietly laugh to myself
My Dad has COPD and will never recover from it
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No worries my friend - you are doing a good thing for you and yours - i respect that, and thanks re my mother, but that was back in 1971 and time is a great healer.
As an aside and maybe to help you carry on (but at the risk of going all Open University for a momentm )there was a famous longitudinal ( many decades long term ) study done on smoking and non smoking workers at Hammersmith Sorting office which resulted in an equally famous graph from the two medics who ran the study -Fletcher/ Peto.
This showed clearly the impact of smoking in terms of when a smoker will run into disabling levels of breathing problems versus non smokers. It also shows the recovery available though if and when you stop like you have done.
That isn't why I have put it up though - the top line - non smokers and non susceptible to smoke is an interesting one. Here you can see that even non smokers breathing efficiency declines with age, but at the age of 75 or whatever they are still fine - way above the disability line.
The tobacco companies ( sick ba5tards that they are) spotted this line about "not susceptible to smoke" and are now spending millions researching this area. We all know the stories that smokers trot out about " my grandad smoked 100 capstan filter less a day for 100 years and could still run a marathon blah blah" - well for a tiny tiny percentage ( way below 0.1%) of people this is true, but it hasn't been widely publicised. Research is showing that ALL smoking causes damage to lung tissue, even to the immune minority, but what happens with them is that they have a genetic abnormality where their genes can repair the damage - so the tobacco companies are now trying to find a way to give everyone the same genetic immunity. "there's your pack of 20 Camels, sir, don't forget your change, oh, and your injection for your gene therapy.." . Cha ching.
Fletcher Peto graph below
Cheers
f
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As an aside and maybe to help you carry on (but at the risk of going all Open University for a momentm )there was a famous longitudinal ( many decades long term ) study done on smoking and non smoking workers at Hammersmith Sorting office which resulted in an equally famous graph from the two medics who ran the study -Fletcher/ Peto.
This showed clearly the impact of smoking in terms of when a smoker will run into disabling levels of breathing problems versus non smokers. It also shows the recovery available though if and when you stop like you have done.
That isn't why I have put it up though - the top line - non smokers and non susceptible to smoke is an interesting one. Here you can see that even non smokers breathing efficiency declines with age, but at the age of 75 or whatever they are still fine - way above the disability line.
The tobacco companies ( sick ba5tards that they are) spotted this line about "not susceptible to smoke" and are now spending millions researching this area. We all know the stories that smokers trot out about " my grandad smoked 100 capstan filter less a day for 100 years and could still run a marathon blah blah" - well for a tiny tiny percentage ( way below 0.1%) of people this is true, but it hasn't been widely publicised. Research is showing that ALL smoking causes damage to lung tissue, even to the immune minority, but what happens with them is that they have a genetic abnormality where their genes can repair the damage - so the tobacco companies are now trying to find a way to give everyone the same genetic immunity. "there's your pack of 20 Camels, sir, don't forget your change, oh, and your injection for your gene therapy.." . Cha ching.
Fletcher Peto graph below
Cheers
f
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Good post, Fat boy. Cigarettes are poison.
I know that feeling, Maz.
Often after a long time of giving up, out of nowhere, the temptation for smoking suddenly comes haunting- to keep one's distress a damn good company. Its like this bad habit in a fancy form is still frozen in your thoughts. When the stress level are high, you need your dummy i.e. your cigarette in your mouth. Its a self-harming coping strategy for the depresed and the anxious, and a chill-stick for the relaxing ones. Some use it for both, and some go obsessive-compulsive with it. Some continue to smoke to get their creative juices flowing, but the payback is a very, very painful killer- literally.
The best thing is to tell this bad temptation to p!ss off whenever it enters your mind, and feel like a winner for doing so.
Often after a long time of giving up, out of nowhere, the temptation for smoking suddenly comes haunting- to keep one's distress a damn good company. Its like this bad habit in a fancy form is still frozen in your thoughts. When the stress level are high, you need your dummy i.e. your cigarette in your mouth. Its a self-harming coping strategy for the depresed and the anxious, and a chill-stick for the relaxing ones. Some use it for both, and some go obsessive-compulsive with it. Some continue to smoke to get their creative juices flowing, but the payback is a very, very painful killer- literally.
The best thing is to tell this bad temptation to p!ss off whenever it enters your mind, and feel like a winner for doing so.
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Well still off them since Wednesday, just completed a 12hour night shift that I thought would have been my downfall. Good graph and things like this help keep me focused.
Wish I was on that top line though
Wish I was on that top line though
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No worries my friend - you are doing a good thing for you and yours - i respect that, and thanks re my mother, but that was back in 1971 and time is a great healer.
As an aside and maybe to help you carry on (but at the risk of going all Open University for a momentm )there was a famous longitudinal ( many decades long term ) study done on smoking and non smoking workers at Hammersmith Sorting office which resulted in an equally famous graph from the two medics who ran the study -Fletcher/ Peto.
This showed clearly the impact of smoking in terms of when a smoker will run into disabling levels of breathing problems versus non smokers. It also shows the recovery available though if and when you stop like you have done.
That isn't why I have put it up though - the top line - non smokers and non susceptible to smoke is an interesting one. Here you can see that even non smokers breathing efficiency declines with age, but at the age of 75 or whatever they are still fine - way above the disability line.
The tobacco companies ( sick ba5tards that they are) spotted this line about "not susceptible to smoke" and are now spending millions researching this area. We all know the stories that smokers trot out about " my grandad smoked 100 capstan filter less a day for 100 years and could still run a marathon blah blah" - well for a tiny tiny percentage ( way below 0.1%) of people this is true, but it hasn't been widely publicised. Research is showing that ALL smoking causes damage to lung tissue, even to the immune minority, but what happens with them is that they have a genetic abnormality where their genes can repair the damage - so the tobacco companies are now trying to find a way to give everyone the same genetic immunity. "there's your pack of 20 Camels, sir, don't forget your change, oh, and your injection for your gene therapy.." . Cha ching.
Fletcher Peto graph below
Cheers
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FB
As an aside and maybe to help you carry on (but at the risk of going all Open University for a momentm )there was a famous longitudinal ( many decades long term ) study done on smoking and non smoking workers at Hammersmith Sorting office which resulted in an equally famous graph from the two medics who ran the study -Fletcher/ Peto.
This showed clearly the impact of smoking in terms of when a smoker will run into disabling levels of breathing problems versus non smokers. It also shows the recovery available though if and when you stop like you have done.
That isn't why I have put it up though - the top line - non smokers and non susceptible to smoke is an interesting one. Here you can see that even non smokers breathing efficiency declines with age, but at the age of 75 or whatever they are still fine - way above the disability line.
The tobacco companies ( sick ba5tards that they are) spotted this line about "not susceptible to smoke" and are now spending millions researching this area. We all know the stories that smokers trot out about " my grandad smoked 100 capstan filter less a day for 100 years and could still run a marathon blah blah" - well for a tiny tiny percentage ( way below 0.1%) of people this is true, but it hasn't been widely publicised. Research is showing that ALL smoking causes damage to lung tissue, even to the immune minority, but what happens with them is that they have a genetic abnormality where their genes can repair the damage - so the tobacco companies are now trying to find a way to give everyone the same genetic immunity. "there's your pack of 20 Camels, sir, don't forget your change, oh, and your injection for your gene therapy.." . Cha ching.
Fletcher Peto graph below
Cheers
f
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Well done!
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I stopped over 15 years ago after many times of trying. It was a stay in hospital after an accident that helped me in the first place.
I now dislike the smell of ciggies intensely and would never want to start again. I know its not pleasant thinking but I used to imagine being racked with cancer or suffering from COPD and found that at least strengthened my will to resist another cigarette. It would only take one or two to set you off again with all the difficulties of starting again with giving them up. Despite all the tales of people smoking all their lives and getting away with it. you can never assume that you might be just as lucky.
The other plus of giving up is the surprising amount of extra money you find you have!
Good luck
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I'm gonna give it a go, i'm dreading it. Got some of those Nicorette inhalers here, they don't give you much of a kick and you don't half have to suck on the things to get anything out. Also bought some lockets.
Congrats to those above that have given up or are trying, its tough to try and pack in.
Congrats to those above that have given up or are trying, its tough to try and pack in.
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Champix seems to be doing the trick for me, only had three today so far and my quit date isn't till next Monday. At the rate I'm going I'll be off of them before then.
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Made it through the weekend and a major Kronenburg session yesterday and am still off them. Actually not missing them just yet, definitely think all smokers should speak to someone with COPD, miserable existence.