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Old 22 October 2012, 02:38 PM
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Just wanting to know if any one has ever been mis diagnosed from a doctors practice before.

basicly I am furious to say the least with my local doctors practice.
My mother for the last 12 months has been going to the same doctors practice
saying she was getting extreme pains in her back and belly and the doctor
kept saying it was only irratable bowell syndrom and my mother was going to
the doctors pretty much on a weekly basis with the pain getting worse and worse over the last year and they would just say the same thing irratble bowell syndrom.
then my mother about three weeks ago lost a stone in weight in just under a week
and she was very skinny before she lost the weight and went back to the doctor and yet again they said the same thing I.B.S
then 10 days ago the pain was getting unbarable for her and my father
took her to hospital where she spent the next three day's getting test's run on her.
I was working in the north sea on a oilrig at the time and was phoning home every day to see how my mother was keeping thinking it would
just be something small that was the matter
when I called the third evening I was told my mother has cancer and it had spread right through her body and it was untreatable " terminal "
I could not believe what I was hearing.
I came home to see my mother in hospital and she looked week and
was still able to sit up and speak.
she got home four days ago and the family was all round to give her comfort
and two days ago she fell into a sort of coma and passed away at 8 pm last night at 51 years old.

I am pretty much broken right now.
and I am just thinking if those idiots at the doctors practice had not been so lazy and incompetent there is a high probability that my mother would
of had a fighting chance at survival even the doctors and nurses at the hospital
were shocked at my mothers doctors practice had not seen the warning signs and done something about it.


I am at the same doctors practice and they had been mis diagnosing me for 6 years also as I would go to them very often also with ear problems and
the doctor would just say I had a ear infection.
then I went to a bupa doctor through my work and the doctor looked at my ear for 5 minutes and told me I had a bigger problem than I relised
and said I need a operation quickly to rebuild my whole eardrum and surrounding bones.

also my parents neigbour was also mis diagnosed at the same doctors practice.

The good thing was the staff at the hospital was amazing and the nurses that came to our house to help my mother were amazing
and were so helpful.

I am not complaining about the NHS as I think they do a great job
but I am just a really mad at the doctors practice as thats three people that
I know got mis diagnosed from them and what I want to know is how many more people is out there.

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Old 22 October 2012, 02:49 PM
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Sorry to hear this fella.

Not much help, but this isn't the first time i've heard this and doubt it'll be the last. I reckon your as well just going to the hospital soon after the doc's if your not getting anywhere.
Old 22 October 2012, 02:58 PM
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Do something about it then - talk to a solicitor for some legal advice.
Maybe talk to the press - see what the legal chap says first though.

Definitely sounds as though they're pretty suspect.

Will be very difficult to get anywhere though, unless you've got a lot f money to spend on legal fees.

I have a case myself which is still ongoing, basically a hospital killed a brother of mine.
He was admitted for something, they fcuekd up and gave him far to much of a drug which killed him.
Nurses/doctors (foreign by the way ) fabricated notes, a senior doctor spotted the late entries and changes and raised the alarm.
Be prepared to face lots of legal obstacles along the way and good luck.
Old 22 October 2012, 03:03 PM
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oh man. Thats terrible, my thoughts are with you and your family.

The only thing I can figure out with what is going on with the NHS is that they dont have enough time to do a proper diagnosis. In fact, a lot of Drs just use the web, put in your symptoms and assume (wrongly in many cases). The reason they do that, is because there arent enough of them to be able to spend appropriate time in diagnosis. Then again, we use a lot of european doctors (who are qualified to NHS standards) who are mis-diagnosing all the time. Find out if the doctor was a contracted or permanent member of staff.

It cant be allowed to continue for someone else to be mis-diagnosed.

Im really really sorry bud, I can only imagine the mixture of emotions going through your mind.
Old 22 October 2012, 03:04 PM
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I'm really to sorry to hear this mate ..
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I am so sorry to hear your story. It is really very poor servoice from the doctor concerned. I think I would be in his office telling him to his face just what I thought of him and asking him why I should not accuse him in court of gross incompetence.

We are lucky to have a decent set of doctors around here but what you are telling us is so bad it is difficult to accept that anyone can be so irresponsible to make such assumptions.

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thanks people for the support

Urban I am really sorry to hear about your brother
Old 22 October 2012, 03:54 PM
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That's pretty terrible and although I can offer no advice, I wish you the best in getting justice mate.
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Originally Posted by nizmo80
thanks people for the support

Urban I am really sorry to hear about your brother
Very sorry to head the news of your Mum, it must have been dreadful hearing this news over the phone.

I would seek further advice though if it were me.
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Originally Posted by urban
Very sorry to head the news of your Mum, it must have been dreadful hearing this news over the phone.

I would seek further advice though if it were me.
thanks
luckily I was there in her final moments with our family and it was peacful as well.
Old 22 October 2012, 04:16 PM
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I am so upset by this, but at the same time not suprised. As some maybe aware I hold GPs in very low regard because of a number of things that has happened to my family. One case was a similar situation; My grandad had a infection that caused his kidneys to pack in. Despite repeated doctors visits and him being fobbed off back home, over a six month period a fully independant old man who could walk, drive, be totally coherant turned into a shell, unable to walk, incontinent, and barely able to string a sentence together. It was only until he couldn't be woken up by a carer the day after the GP had made a home visit an ambulance was called and his final admission to hospital via A&E they found the problem...his kidneys had stopped working. By then it was too late, he was too weak to recover.

I can't really help with you in terms of holding to account those who are responsible; Put it this way, the GP and practice responsible for my grandad carried on, business as usual. (Although that particular GP has just recently retired, so at least he can't do any further damage to other people's lives ). But you do have my greatest sympathies as I do share your anger.
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
I am so upset by this, but at the same time not suprised. As some maybe aware I hold GPs in very low regard because of a number of things that has happened to my family. One case was a similar situation; My grandad had a infection that caused his kidneys to pack in. Despite repeated doctors visits and him being fobbed off back home, over a six month period a fully independant old man who could walk, drive, be totally coherant turned into a shell, unable to walk, incontinent, and barely able to string a sentence together. It was only until he couldn't be woken up by a carer the day after the GP had made a home visit an ambulance was called and his final admission to hospital via A&E they found the problem...his kidneys had stopped working. By then it was too late, he was too weak to recover.

I can't really help with you in terms of holding to account those who are responsible; Put it this way, the GP and practice responsible for my grandad carried on, business as usual. (Although that particular GP has just recently retired, so at least he can't do any further damage to other people's lives ). But you do have my greatest sympathies as I do share your anger.
sorry to hear that ali-b

it is horrible that things like this are happening to people
and once it happens the doctors are left to carry on with their jobs
as if nothing has happened and the unfortunate patient is paying the price of the doctors incompetence with their life.
Old 22 October 2012, 05:16 PM
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So sorry to hear your news, brings back memories to how my dad was treated at his local gps. he went with middle back pain and was told it was muscular and he may need physio, however it persisted and he paid private to have a scan to be told he'd got a massive shadow on his lung, 6 months later after having an op he died of lung cancer. i dont hold doctors in very high esteem since this so its completely natural that you are feeling angry and let down
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So sorry to hear of your loss niz, my thoughts are with you fella.
How the **** can doctors live with themselfs, its becoming more apparent nowadays like they have no care, its just a job and wage to them it seems, i hate my doctors or any tbh and avoid going as you can just sense that they cant be arsed and just want to get on with next appointment. I love to deal with people who act like they have time for you it makes good customer service.
Imo it needs a big shake up to the system, it just cant carry on like this, its happening everywhere.

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Sorry about your tragic news,

My doctor used to use google to see what was wrong with me - tinatus
My wife had a rash on her face and her doctor kept trying to thob her off..
She went for a 360 examination (work requirment) and they found that her body had way too many white blood cells and she had to take 8weeks of antibiotics.
could have been very dangerous if left. She went back to her doctor to collect the tables and they gave her 8 tables (not packets of 3 a day) then when she phoned back they tried to give her a cream instead of tablets as it was cheaper - She contacted the 360 consoltant who spoke to the doctor.
Finally Vic got it all sorted and even made the stupid bitch cry (good)
she's all healthy now.
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thanks fella's and emma

hearing more about what doctors get away with makes me sad that this happens frequently
Old 22 October 2012, 09:43 PM
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I'm really sorry to hear this ... 51 years is no age at all.

On the other question - there are now Legal Outfits who take Doctors and Dentists to task for negligence ...... it would seem like you have a case for yourself, let alone your Mother.

I'm keen on the Medical cowboys getting their justice .... especially the rip-off Dentists that mis-diagnose just to line their pockets!
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Nizmo80, very sorry to hear about your mum, and how it all came to this due to misdiagnosis. Condolences to you and to your family.
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The NHS nearly killed my son and my wife and they did kill my father, I have no confidance in them at all,

Keep your head held high mate times like this break the best of us
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I'm really sorry to hear this ... 51 years is no age at all.
Originally Posted by Turbohot
Nizmo80, very sorry to hear about your mum
thank you

what really hurts about everything is that when I was growing up I always told my parents I was never getting married and was never having kids.
my mother was panicing that she would not get grandchildren.
then I met someone and got married two and a half years ago and then a year later
we had our first child " owen " my parents were so happy they
got thier grandson.
my mother was so exited to be there with my son my mother would be practicly jumping at the chance to babysit owen and was always trying to
spend as much time as possable with him.
before we found out about the cancer my mother was planning my sons xmas
she could not wait until xmas day so she could celabrate with owen.

when my mum was in hospital and when she had been released home she had a little photo of owen and a little get well soon card my son had made pinned to the side of her bed and told me she wanted me to put these into her coffin when the time comes.

when my mother was released from hospital I had asked her if it was ok
if I could make two video recordings of her wishing owen a happy 16th and 21st birthday so I could hide them until my sons birthdays then give them to him so he could see his grandmother again as he is to little right now.
but unfortunatly my mother could not do it as her health turned rapidly.
but I have lots of photos of her to show owen so he never forgets his grandmother
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Originally Posted by nizmo80
thank you

what really hurts about everything is that when I was growing up I always told my parents I was never getting married and was never having kids.
my mother was panicing that she would not get grandchildren.
then I met someone and got married two and a half years ago and then a year later
we had our first child " owen " my parents were so happy they
got thier grandson.
my mother was so exited to be there with my son my mother would be practicly jumping at the chance to babysit owen and was always trying to
spend as much time as possable with him.
before we found out about the cancer my mother was planning my sons xmas
she could not wait until xmas day so she could celabrate with owen.

when my mum was in hospital and when she had been released home she had a little photo of owen and a little get well soon card my son had made pinned to the side of her bed and told me she wanted me to put these into her coffin when the time comes.

when my mother was released from hospital I had asked her if it was ok
if I could make two video recordings of her wishing owen a happy 16th and 21st birthday so I could hide them until my sons birthdays then give them to him so he could see his grandmother again as he is to little right now.
but unfortunatly my mother could not do it as her health turned rapidly.
but I have lots of photos of her to show owen so he never forgets his grandmother



You will treasure your dearest mum's memories forever. One day, you will tell Owen how loving his grandmother was.
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http://www.pals.nhs.uk/cmsContentView.aspx?ItemID=932

Sorry to hear about this

For impartial information and help I'd try PALS, there will be a local contact number.........as I'm sure you are aware I work for the NHS and certainly our local PALS service is based on the patient side of things and not the medics.

Shaun
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Originally Posted by Midlife......
http://www.pals.nhs.uk/cmsContentView.aspx?ItemID=932

Sorry to hear about this

For impartial information and help I'd try PALS, there will be a local contact number.........as I'm sure you are aware I work for the NHS and certainly our local PALS service is based on the patient side of things and not the medics.

Shaun
thank you
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Nizmo,

Terribly sad to hear about your mum. Getting back to your original post your experience confirms my view that you sometimes have to bully a GP to get oneself or another looked at by a specialist. This is not easy by any means.

Don't get distracted by insensitive comments by Bubba.

Hope things brighten up for you in the next few months.

David
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Originally Posted by David Lock
Nizmo,

Terribly sad to hear about your mum. Getting back to your original post your experience confirms my view that you sometimes have to bully a GP to get oneself or another looked at by a specialist. This is not easy by any means.

Don't get distracted by insensitive comments by Bubba.

Hope things brighten up for you in the next few months.

David

thank you david

I know now for when me and my wife get old and I feel something is wrong I will
push for test and not take no for a answer.

hopfully things will brighten up soon as I am a father now and need to push on with my own family now and live life as best as I can

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Sorry to hear of your loss, I really know what you've been through and I can assure you that slowly things do get more bearable - I wouldn't say easier as things will never be the same again but you just learn to deal things better.

I lost my father to Cancer but in his case the hospital doctors/consultants nearly killed him before the Cancer did.

Despite the fact my father was complaining of leg pains he was discharged as they wanted to free up bed space, it turns out he had DVT and had 7 separate blood clots in his legs. It was only when his GP visited him at home did she insist he was taken to A&E in an ambulance as she was convinced that the hospital had missed the blood clots.

The same hospital put my leg in a cast when I ripped my ankle ligaments and despite me complaining of it being too tight they sent me home. A couple of days later I had to be rushed in as I had DVT and two blood clots were in my upper thigh and could have killed me within an hour. I had to undergo 6 months of taking blood thinning tablets plus daily visits for blood tests for the first 2 months, and they even finished my treatment before they should have due to an administrative error on their part.

The same hospital has messed up on numerous occasions and once removed the wrong kidney on a patient which directly resulted in his death.

From my experience there is incompetence rife within all levels of the NHS from top to bottom, but I must be lucky as I have a good GP who helped my father greatly when he was terminally ill.

As for the issue of a poster causing upset as I haven't seen the posts I can only assume he/she has the morals of an alley cat with a personality to match.
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so sorry to hear

my uncle kept going to the docs with stomach pains, trouble going to the toilet, blood in poo. they kept saying IBS. within 6 months he died of bowel cancer aged just 41

my dad went to the docs with wind/trapped wind. they sent him to the hospital to get it sorted. he always had high blood pressure it was 210 over ???. they changed his tablets and 2 days later it was down to 120, he got off his bed and walked to the toilet, he collapsed near the toilet and hit his head on the toilet bowl, he died 10 mins later

his final blood pressure was really low (he was 5ft 9 and 20st) but doc told him to carry on taking the tablets at the same dose , if docs had thought about his circumstances and lowered his dose, he would still be here. that doc killed my dad
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Originally Posted by Cannon Fodder
Sorry to hear of your loss, I really know what you've been through and I can assure you that slowly things do get more bearable - I wouldn't say easier as things will never be the same again but you just learn to deal things better.

I lost my father to Cancer but in his case the hospital doctors/consultants nearly killed him before the Cancer did.

Despite the fact my father was complaining of leg pains he was discharged as they wanted to free up bed space, it turns out he had DVT and had 7 separate blood clots in his legs. It was only when his GP visited him at home did she insist he was taken to A&E in an ambulance as she was convinced that the hospital had missed the blood clots.

The same hospital put my leg in a cast when I ripped my ankle ligaments and despite me complaining of it being too tight they sent me home. A couple of days later I had to be rushed in as I had DVT and two blood clots were in my upper thigh and could have killed me within an hour. I had to undergo 6 months of taking blood thinning tablets plus daily visits for blood tests for the first 2 months, and they even finished my treatment before they should have due to an administrative error on their part.

The same hospital has messed up on numerous occasions and once removed the wrong kidney on a patient which directly resulted in his death.

From my experience there is incompetence rife within all levels of the NHS from top to bottom, but I must be lucky as I have a good GP who helped my father greatly when he was terminally ill.

As for the issue of a poster causing upset as I haven't seen the posts I can only assume he/she has the morals of an alley cat with a personality to match.

really sorry to hear about your father Cannon Fodder
it really is a sad experiance when you lose someone you love so much
my condolances
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Originally Posted by boozydave
so sorry to hear

my uncle kept going to the docs with stomach pains, trouble going to the toilet, blood in poo. they kept saying IBS. within 6 months he died of bowel cancer aged just 41

my dad went to the docs with wind/trapped wind. they sent him to the hospital to get it sorted. he always had high blood pressure it was 210 over ???. they changed his tablets and 2 days later it was down to 120, he got off his bed and walked to the toilet, he collapsed near the toilet and hit his head on the toilet bowl, he died 10 mins later

his final blood pressure was really low (he was 5ft 9 and 20st) but doc told him to carry on taking the tablets at the same dose , if docs had thought about his circumstances and lowered his dose, he would still be here. that doc killed my dad
OMG 41
jesus that is young
so sorry for your loss dave I really am mate

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Originally Posted by nizmo80
really sorry to hear about your father Cannon Fodder
it really is a sad experiance when you lose someone you love so much
my condolances
Thanks, and even though it was 10 years ago I still have bad days when it all comes flooding back to me.

Keep your chin up and spend plenty of time with friends and family remembering the good times you've all shared together.


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