Out of his misery bless him!
22 August 2012, 01:48 PM
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"A Wiltshire Police spokesman said the force would not be investigating Mr Nicklinson's death."
That's probably a good decision but the coroner's verdict may change that?
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That's probably a good decision but the coroner's verdict may change that?
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22 August 2012, 02:49 PM
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I followed Tony's story for a while now.
Glad he and his family are finally at rest.
As said above though, let's see what happens at the pm,
Rest in peace.
Glad he and his family are finally at rest.
As said above though, let's see what happens at the pm,
Rest in peace.
22 August 2012, 02:49 PM
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As long as someone is mentally aware and capable of making their own decision, they should be allowed to choose whether they want to live or die in my opinion! I`m glad he`s now at peace.
22 August 2012, 03:51 PM
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"His death certificate has been signed by a doctor, so it is not a matter for Wiltshire Police or the coroner."
I'd like to know what is on the death certificate!
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"Police are not involved at all. We can confirm he passed away and it is not a matter for Wiltshire Police," he said.
"His death certificate has been signed by a doctor, so it is not a matter for Wiltshire Police or the coroner."
I'd like to know what is on the death certificate!
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"His death certificate has been signed by a doctor, so it is not a matter for Wiltshire Police or the coroner."
I'd like to know what is on the death certificate!
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22 August 2012, 04:14 PM
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Stephen Hawking as been in a worse situation for years and no disrespect to this chap, is probably a lot smarter. He went from fully able bodied to needing everything done for him but is still known as one of the brightest minds on the planet.
As someone else said, it has to be down to personal choice. Hope his family don't feel they let him down in some way.
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22 August 2012, 04:23 PM
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It makes you wonder about the ways in which we dispense justice in the country/world.
You take a man like Tony Nicklinson who is begging for release from what anybody might describe as a living hell, and the law insists that he remains alive against his wishes. No sane person would begrudge Tony his peace.
And yet a murdering scumbag like Ian Brady is forcibly kept alive for years at the tax payer's expense just so that justice may be served.
Where's the rationale and justice?
Is it just me that finds this incredulous?
You take a man like Tony Nicklinson who is begging for release from what anybody might describe as a living hell, and the law insists that he remains alive against his wishes. No sane person would begrudge Tony his peace.
And yet a murdering scumbag like Ian Brady is forcibly kept alive for years at the tax payer's expense just so that justice may be served.
Where's the rationale and justice?
Is it just me that finds this incredulous?
22 August 2012, 04:32 PM
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It makes you wonder about the ways in which we dispense justice in the country/world.
You take a man like Tony Nicklinson who is begging for release from what anybody might describe as a living hell, and the law insists that he remains alive against his wishes. No sane person would begrudge Tony his peace.
And yet a murdering scumbag like Ian Brady is forcibly kept alive for years at the tax payer's expense just so that justice may be served.
Where's the rationale and justice?
Is it just me that finds this incredulous?
You take a man like Tony Nicklinson who is begging for release from what anybody might describe as a living hell, and the law insists that he remains alive against his wishes. No sane person would begrudge Tony his peace.
And yet a murdering scumbag like Ian Brady is forcibly kept alive for years at the tax payer's expense just so that justice may be served.
Where's the rationale and justice?
Is it just me that finds this incredulous?
22 August 2012, 04:35 PM
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Sort of... some people just deal with it better than others. He could communicate but only through use of his eyes.
Stephen Hawking as been in a worse situation for years and no disrespect to this chap, is probably a lot smarter. He went from fully able bodied to needing everything done for him but is still known as one of the brightest minds on the planet.
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Stephen Hawking as been in a worse situation for years and no disrespect to this chap, is probably a lot smarter. He went from fully able bodied to needing everything done for him but is still known as one of the brightest minds on the planet.
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This guy had a stroke and overnight went from being a normal fun-loving bloke to a prisoner in his own body, who has absolutely no muscle control short of blinking. I'd say he was in the worse position of the two.
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As for communicating with his computer - how do you think this chap was able to tweet and argue his case to say he wanted to die and his quality of life was terrible. Those weren't made up for him, he actually communicated that.
I agree Hawking gradually degenerated but the situation he is now in is worse and he can still remember being able to get about like anyone else.
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he can control a tiny part of his eyebrow, less than this chap could.
As for communicating with his computer - how do you think this chap was able to tweet and argue his case to say he wanted to die and his quality of life was terrible. Those weren't made up for him, he actually communicated that.
I agree Hawking gradually degenerated but the situation he is now in is worse and he can still remember being able to get about like anyone else.
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As for communicating with his computer - how do you think this chap was able to tweet and argue his case to say he wanted to die and his quality of life was terrible. Those weren't made up for him, he actually communicated that.
I agree Hawking gradually degenerated but the situation he is now in is worse and he can still remember being able to get about like anyone else.
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afaik someone could have provided him with the means to kill himself but because he was unable to take it himself it would mean someone else had to administer it, this is the illegal part.
common sense should have played a part really and each case taken on its merit
common sense should have played a part really and each case taken on its merit
22 August 2012, 09:58 PM
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I think you are kinda missing the point here, the guy wanted to die he had given up on life because it made him so miserable, hawking managed to keep his attitude positive only by engrossing himself in his research, if he wasn't a genious whats to say it wouldn't of been him in the same position. This guy had clearly hit rock bottom, which I can fully understand, no amount of therapy can change ur mind if it is so determined. u should have the right to choose ur own path, as I'm sure if he was able and that miserable he would of ended it anyway.
Different people deal with it differently. It was the idea that if he'd been a dog we'd have put him out of his misery. Trouble is, a dog doesn't make that decision so each case needs to be seen for exactly what it is, an individual struggle.
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