Typical 'Work-shy' individual
06 August 2012, 02:00 PM
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Typical 'Work-shy' individual
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19146347
She gets paid benifits and then moans when she has do to a bit of work.
It is even more laughable is the fact that she didn't even have to work to keep her allowance!
Slavery for god sake.
She has no idea.
She gets paid benifits and then moans when she has do to a bit of work.
It is even more laughable is the fact that she didn't even have to work to keep her allowance!
Slavery for god sake.
She has no idea.
06 August 2012, 02:05 PM
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Yeah, private corporations should definitely benefit from having slave labour. I mean why should Poundland or Tesco have to pay staff wages for work and have a level playing field with local shops when they can get beenfit claimants to work for them for free under threat of being cut off?
06 August 2012, 02:17 PM
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Yeah, private corporations should definitely benefit from having slave labour. I mean why should Poundland or Tesco have to pay staff wages for work and have a level playing field with local shops when they can get beenfit claimants to work for them for free under threat of being cut off?
Far better to get them doing something within the wider community. I'm not sure what specifically but free labour for hugely profiting corporations isn't it. Unless these corporations are willing to subsidise their benefits.
06 August 2012, 02:18 PM
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Yeah, private corporations should definitely benefit from having slave labour. I mean why should Poundland or Tesco have to pay staff wages for work and have a level playing field with local shops when they can get beenfit claimants to work for them for free under threat of being cut off?
06 August 2012, 02:42 PM
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There is an economic necessity to work, but when the state makes it a political necessity it's slavery.
06 August 2012, 03:01 PM
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Im with einstein on this, if they dont want to get paid a pittance or lose their benefits (which every working person is paying for) then go get a job.
What do you suggest? throw some more money at lazy individuals "hoping" they will see the light and get a job? No, i, for one am fed up of paying a HUGE chunk of my wages to people who DONT want to work.
People who DO want to work, should be helped, even if its cheap labour so the person has at least some experience to be able to compete in the work place for employment.
I had to earn the money to pay for their benefit - they should work to earn it.
What do you suggest? throw some more money at lazy individuals "hoping" they will see the light and get a job? No, i, for one am fed up of paying a HUGE chunk of my wages to people who DONT want to work.
People who DO want to work, should be helped, even if its cheap labour so the person has at least some experience to be able to compete in the work place for employment.
I had to earn the money to pay for their benefit - they should work to earn it.
06 August 2012, 03:05 PM
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Im with einstein on this, if they dont want to get paid a pittance or lose their benefits (which every working person is paying for) then go get a job.
What do you suggest? throw some more money at lazy individuals "hoping" they will see the light and get a job? No, i, for one am fed up of paying a HUGE chunk of my wages to people who DONT want to work.
People who DO want to work, should be helped, even if its cheap labour so the person has at least some experience to be able to compete in the work place for employment.
I had to earn the money to pay for their benefit - they should work to earn it.
What do you suggest? throw some more money at lazy individuals "hoping" they will see the light and get a job? No, i, for one am fed up of paying a HUGE chunk of my wages to people who DONT want to work.
People who DO want to work, should be helped, even if its cheap labour so the person has at least some experience to be able to compete in the work place for employment.
I had to earn the money to pay for their benefit - they should work to earn it.
06 August 2012, 03:07 PM
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1. "Getting a job" is not exactly an easy task at the moment. Especially if you are 16-24.
2. Why should Tesco/Pundland get free labour paid for by the state?
3. Why are you exempt from minimum wage legislation if you are out of work? Why is is suddenly ok to pay you £2 an hour?
If you want to incentivise people workign an dputting back into the community, then make it somethign the community will benefit from and actually make it pay. Take people on JSA @ £70 a week and offer them community based work that pays minimum wage.
Use some carrot not just a big stick
2. Why should Tesco/Pundland get free labour paid for by the state?
3. Why are you exempt from minimum wage legislation if you are out of work? Why is is suddenly ok to pay you £2 an hour?
If you want to incentivise people workign an dputting back into the community, then make it somethign the community will benefit from and actually make it pay. Take people on JSA @ £70 a week and offer them community based work that pays minimum wage.
Use some carrot not just a big stick
06 August 2012, 03:15 PM
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It's the lesser of two evils though. When people get 'trapped' within the benefit system often a helping 'push' is needed for some of the claimants. In the bigger context it is an economic necessity as the state can't fund things indefinitely. Thus the line between political/economic necessities isn't quite as defined as you assert.
06 August 2012, 03:28 PM
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I guess you could have them picking up litter or breaking rocks but they aren't really going to learn any transferable skills doing that.
Some of these employers really are taking the p1ss with these so called apprenticeship schemes though. Pay someone £100 a week to do all the donkey work at the office, then at the end of the 12 weeks let them go and get someone else to make the tea and do hours of data entry for £2.60 an hour.
Some of these employers really are taking the p1ss with these so called apprenticeship schemes though. Pay someone £100 a week to do all the donkey work at the office, then at the end of the 12 weeks let them go and get someone else to make the tea and do hours of data entry for £2.60 an hour.
06 August 2012, 03:43 PM
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Here, if someone doesn't like the job they've been assigned to they can join the world of work and get a job they prefer. They are not slaves by any description.
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06 August 2012, 04:46 PM
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No. If they were slaves they'd be property of someone, a commodity to be bought and sold with no control over their own lives.
Here, if someone doesn't like the job they've been assigned to they can join the world of work and get a job they prefer. They are not slaves by any description.
5t.
Here, if someone doesn't like the job they've been assigned to they can join the world of work and get a job they prefer. They are not slaves by any description.
5t.
06 August 2012, 04:58 PM
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No. If they were slaves they'd be property of someone, a commodity to be bought and sold with no control over their own lives.
Here, if someone doesn't like the job they've been assigned to they can join the world of work and get a job they prefer. They are not slaves by any description.
5t.
Here, if someone doesn't like the job they've been assigned to they can join the world of work and get a job they prefer. They are not slaves by any description.
5t.
06 August 2012, 05:04 PM
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Pete - it isn't a case of unemployment not existing. There are clearly jobs. Usually the ones people moan about immigrants taking. They have those jobs because they are prepared to do them.
Likewise to Tony. There are jobs, clearly at Poundland et al but people do not want them. There is also night school, retraining, a lot of things you can do to improve your lot. You are being deliberately emotive and presenting a very thin argument. TBH it's borderline trolling is it no?
5t.
Likewise to Tony. There are jobs, clearly at Poundland et al but people do not want them. There is also night school, retraining, a lot of things you can do to improve your lot. You are being deliberately emotive and presenting a very thin argument. TBH it's borderline trolling is it no?
5t.
06 August 2012, 05:09 PM
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ww.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/SN05871.pdf
There are few jobs out there for young people.
06 August 2012, 05:35 PM
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slavery , shut up whining, if they dont like it they can get a better job, will give them an incentive instead of getting handouts that working ppl pay for.
dont bother telling me there`s no work out there either. ive done some right 5hitty jobs in the past, any job is better than no job
dont bother telling me there`s no work out there either. ive done some right 5hitty jobs in the past, any job is better than no job
06 August 2012, 06:10 PM
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I think comparing it to slavery is stretching credibility a touch.
06 August 2012, 06:16 PM
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06 August 2012, 06:25 PM
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1. "Getting a job" is not exactly an easy task at the moment. Especially if you are 16-24.
2. Why should Tesco/Pundland get free labour paid for by the state?
3. Why are you exempt from minimum wage legislation if you are out of work? Why is is suddenly ok to pay you £2 an hour?
If you want to incentivise people workign an dputting back into the community, then make it somethign the community will benefit from and actually make it pay. Take people on JSA @ £70 a week and offer them community based work that pays minimum wage.
Use some carrot not just a big stick
2. Why should Tesco/Pundland get free labour paid for by the state?
3. Why are you exempt from minimum wage legislation if you are out of work? Why is is suddenly ok to pay you £2 an hour?
If you want to incentivise people workign an dputting back into the community, then make it somethign the community will benefit from and actually make it pay. Take people on JSA @ £70 a week and offer them community based work that pays minimum wage.
Use some carrot not just a big stick
06 August 2012, 06:29 PM
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