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Old 22 June 2012, 07:17 PM
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Default Hi-fi for an 8x8ft room.

Hi,

I want a hi-fi for an 8x8ft room. Being a bit of a traditionalist, i'm thinking of an amp, cd player and a pair of speakers. I'm willing to pay up to 1k for the right system, but don't want something that will dominate the room. The speakers will be wall mounted (probably).

Any advice. From my days of buying hi-fi in the past, all i can remember is Cyrus making smaller size separates, then get a pair of smallish speakers.
Old 22 June 2012, 07:27 PM
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what music do you listen too?
Old 22 June 2012, 07:30 PM
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Got an awesome pair of focal floor standing speakers pretty much brand new in box £700 in audio t wil take £400 for the pair,
Connect to a audio lab 8000a amp and rega planner cd player and is literally music to your ears and that would be dooable for about 1k
Old 22 June 2012, 07:31 PM
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Also have a pair of b&w speakers on atacama stands again as new for £250
Old 22 June 2012, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamz3k
what music do you listen too?
Everything from Red Hot Chilli Peppers to Neil Young, Beatles, Arctic Monkeys, Arcade Fire, etc,etc.

CJ, its an 8x8 room.
Old 22 June 2012, 07:35 PM
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I'd consider this equipment.
Marantz PM6004
http://www.richersounds.com/product/...ara-pm6004-blk
Cambridge NP-30
http://www.richersounds.com/product/.../camb-np30-blk
Dali Zensor 1
http://www.richersounds.com/product/...r-1-blkhttp://

It would be a fantastic sounding setup and could sound even better with a few more quid spent on speakers.

I love Monitor Audio speakers and would check out the BX-range also but they can be a tad bright for some ears.

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Old 22 June 2012, 07:42 PM
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I'm really not after full size separates. I di look at the Arcam mini-solo today, but wasn't impressed by the sound. It could have been the fact they only had one (crap) CD in store though.
Old 22 June 2012, 07:49 PM
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I don't rate the arcam solo-mini at all to be honest. Can't really think of any smaller systems that i've actually liked other than the DM38 but it isn't quite up to the standard you are looking for.
Old 22 June 2012, 07:51 PM
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Cyrus has awesome sound and is a compact system not cheap tho
Old 22 June 2012, 07:53 PM
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Bose iPod system, sounds great and with tunein radio on my iPod touch I have any radio station from all over the world
Old 22 June 2012, 08:14 PM
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Speakers that have no bigger than a 6" sub, or it will sound boomy in a room of that size.
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Over budget but the Naim uniti is brilliant for a one box package, does everything you would need it to do, sounds amazing into some spendor's or some B&W's if you want a tad more excitment.
Old 22 June 2012, 08:55 PM
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8' square

How long would you spend in the bathroom anyway. ,
Old 22 June 2012, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamz3k
I don't rate the arcam solo-mini at all to be honest. Can't really think of any smaller systems that i've actually liked other than the DM38 but it isn't quite up to the standard you are looking for.
Yes, i was not impressed. What do you think of Cyrus.
Old 22 June 2012, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BugSti Malone
Over budget but the Naim uniti is brilliant for a one box package, does everything you would need it to do, sounds amazing into some spendor's or some B&W's if you want a tad more excitment.
I run a naim system with neat speakers, expensive, but worth every penny
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Just wondering if cd playback is a neccessity? From my time working in a hifi shop, I wasnt impressed by the cyrus kit, far too bright and thin sounding for my taste.
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Originally Posted by bigredrob
I run a naim system with neat speakers, expensive, but worth every penny
Lol!! I really regret not buying Naim and Neat speakers when I had a staff discount!!
Old 22 June 2012, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BugSti Malone
Just wondering if cd playback is a neccessity? From my time working in a hifi shop, I wasnt impressed by the cyrus kit, far too bright and thin sounding for my taste.
Any recommendations.
Old 22 June 2012, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BugSti Malone
Lol!! I really regret not buying Naim and Neat speakers when I had a staff discount!!
I must admit, naim /neat is good for detail, beat and balance, my every day system. At the moment I still run a Ion obelisk, royd system, far more bass and a more dynamic presentation, not quite the rhythm, but you need a BIG room.
Naim/ neat for detail, presence, etc, obelisk/royd for jumping up and down FEELING THE MUSIC
Old 22 June 2012, 09:45 PM
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If the you would rather not stretch to the Naim ( uniti qute doesnt have the cd player but everything else), I would recommend Audiolab/B&W combo, cheaper still is the Rotel/B&W combo with B&W 685 speakers if you want standmounts or even cheaper would be the Marantz/ B&W combo, out of them the choice for me would Audiolab then Rotel, but the Rotel combo will be very good for something that doesnt bankrupt you.
Old 22 June 2012, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by bigredrob
I must admit, naim /neat is good for detail, beat and balance, my every day system. At the moment I still run a Ion obelisk, royd system, far more bass and a more dynamic presentation, not quite the rhythm, but you need a BIG room.
Naim/ neat for detail, presence, etc, obelisk/royd for jumping up and down FEELING THE MUSIC
lol!, I have never heard the Royd system, but we used to get customer's coming in talking about them quite often, never heard a bad word said about them!

For me though, if I ever won the lottery it would be Pmc/Bryston, amazing!
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Personally I don't like the Cyrus sound and am not overly impressed by the Bryston/PMC sound either.

If I were you and spending £1000 firstly I would be looking second hand. Loads of bargains to be had with kit less than a year old going at 50% of rrp.

Secondly I'd spend a large chunk of that budget on the speakers. The old saying of source first is now outdated. At the money you are talking about most CD players/streamers will sound similar but there could potentially be a vast difference between speakers that cost £250 and those that cost £750.

Which speakers would suit your room size, shape and your musical tastes nobody can know apart from you. So I would go and listen to different kinds of speakers with your kind of music.

The biggest lesson I've learned after years of 'wasting' loads of money on audio is that in this day and age of digital audio your speakers are the single biggest determinant of sound quality.
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Are you an Arcam man out of curiosity?

Agree with you speakers affect the sound the most.
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Ii run b&w and there versatility is amazing,
Old 23 June 2012, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
Personally I don't like the Cyrus sound and am not overly impressed by the Bryston/PMC sound either.

If I were you and spending £1000 firstly I would be looking second hand. Loads of bargains to be had with kit less than a year old going at 50% of rrp.

Secondly I'd spend a large chunk of that budget on the speakers. The old saying of source first is now outdated. At the money you are talking about most CD players/streamers will sound similar but there could potentially be a vast difference between speakers that cost £250 and those that cost £750.

Which speakers would suit your room size, shape and your musical tastes nobody can know apart from you. So I would go and listen to different kinds of speakers with your kind of music.

The biggest lesson I've learned after years of 'wasting' loads of money on audio is that in this day and age of digital audio your speakers are the single biggest determinant of sound quality.
Thanks, i've always thought that myself.
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Originally Posted by BugSti Malone
Are you an Arcam man out of curiosity?

Agree with you speakers affect the sound the most.


I run an eclectic mix of stuff, Audio Research, Quad, Lyngdorf, Whest.
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Originally Posted by paulr
Thanks, i've always thought that myself.

As somebody else said though you'll have to be careful with your speaker choice in a room that small otherwise you'll get bass 'boom'

Do you just want background music whilst you play on the computer or is it a room you want to actually sit down in with a glass of something and really listen to the music?
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
As somebody else said though you'll have to be careful with your speaker choice in a room that small otherwise you'll get bass 'boom'

Do you just want background music whilst you play on the computer or is it a room you want to actually sit down in with a glass of something and really listen to the music?
The 2nd, where i can listen to music. I agree about being careful, but i do prefer a more "fuller" sound than a thin trebly sound.

Anyway, i'm off to have a listen to some today. B&W 686 are small and Sevenoaks sell them.

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Old 23 June 2012, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by paulr
Yes, i was not impressed. What do you think of Cyrus.
I'll be honest and say i've never heard a piece of Cyrus kit before. I haven't been anywhere that stocks it in NI.
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Originally Posted by stevebt
Bose iPod system, sounds great and with tunein radio on my iPod touch I have any radio station from all over the world
Sorry but I thought he said hi-fi, iPods are little more than noise makers in the grand scheme of things!


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