C R B check's , advice please
31 March 2012, 09:22 PM
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C R B check's , advice please
As i run my own company can a get crb checks done and where, also how long do they take, cheers
31 March 2012, 09:34 PM
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Not quite sure where your coming from.
Girlfriend's a carer , new agency new crb check 1 month. But I gather there's more centralisation ,at least that's what I think she said ( several months ago)
Girlfriend's a carer , new agency new crb check 1 month. But I gather there's more centralisation ,at least that's what I think she said ( several months ago)
31 March 2012, 09:37 PM
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You need to go to an agency or bureau
I am the adminstrator for our company and am in charge of all the CRB checks including my own
Atlantic Data are who we use, they are very helpful too
I am the adminstrator for our company and am in charge of all the CRB checks including my own
Atlantic Data are who we use, they are very helpful too
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Fine if you are in Scotland
A couple of years back I tried to get a check for my son who was teaching guitar visiting young kids in their homes. Thought it would be a good idea to give parents reassurance.
Couldn't do it. If he had been teaching in a school then fine but school would have to request the check.
Crazy system so I hope it's been changed.
Phone the CRB office they are quite helpful.
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Theyll probably tell you to f*ck off, and rightly so. I certainly would.
01 April 2012, 06:22 AM
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You could just make it a requirement to have a crb check for employment within your company.
As for not being able to get a crb check from Disclosure Scotland if you live in England, thats a lot of rubbish. They can provide them for any uk citizen. You cannot apply for one for your son, but anyone can get one for themselves from them as long as you pay the £25!! It does not matter if you work in a school or brothel they will still give you one.
As for not being able to get a crb check from Disclosure Scotland if you live in England, thats a lot of rubbish. They can provide them for any uk citizen. You cannot apply for one for your son, but anyone can get one for themselves from them as long as you pay the £25!! It does not matter if you work in a school or brothel they will still give you one.
01 April 2012, 10:10 AM
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Addi can do crb checks through his company he just has to go to a bureau such as Atlantic Data and register his company then he can process crb applictions
Just as I have been doing for the last 4 years
01 April 2012, 11:22 AM
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Fine if you are in Scotland
A couple of years back I tried to get a check for my son who was teaching guitar visiting young kids in their homes. Thought it would be a good idea to give parents reassurance.
Couldn't do it. If he had been teaching in a school then fine but school would have to request the check.
Crazy system so I hope it's been changed.
Phone the CRB office they are quite helpful.
dl
A couple of years back I tried to get a check for my son who was teaching guitar visiting young kids in their homes. Thought it would be a good idea to give parents reassurance.
Couldn't do it. If he had been teaching in a school then fine but school would have to request the check.
Crazy system so I hope it's been changed.
Phone the CRB office they are quite helpful.
dl
Its not for Scotland!! I've worked for few English companies that use this service
Before dismissing good advice please read it
Regions we cover
Disclosure Scotland issues Standard and Enhanced disclosures for individuals who are applying for a relevant position in Scotland.
Basic disclosures are available to anyone, throughout the UK, for any purpose.
Organisations that are based in Scotland, who meet the relevant criteria can apply for disclosures in respect of employees who are based outside the UK.
PVG legislation will affect organisations in Scotland, including employers, charities, sporting and voluntary bodies with posts which involve "regulated work" with "children" and/or "protected adults" which used to access Enhanced Disclosures.
Providing UK wide information - Subject Access Requests
Our service covers information held on databases in the UK. Disclosure Scotland has no input into, or responsibility for, producing Subject Access Reports (SARs). If you require a SAR, you should contact the Scottish Police Force in whose area or areas you reside or resided.
If you live or lived in the UK, but outside Scotland, you should contact:
ACRO (SAO)
PO Box 623
Fareham
Hampshire
PO14 9HR
The Foreign & Commonwealth Office and Criminal Records Bureau may be able to help you with information on non-UK citizens in the UK or UK citizens overseas.
Visit the Foreign & Commonwealth Office site
Visit the Criminal Records Bureau site
Minimum age
There is no age requirement for a disclosure check. Parental consent is advised if a disclosure is sought for individuals less than 14 years of age.
England or Wales?
If you are an individual working or an organisation with positions working in England or Wales you should apply to the Criminal Records Bureau for Standard and Enhanced disclosures.
Northern Ireland?
Individuals or an organisation with positions working in Northern Ireland should apply to Access NI for disclosures.
Disclosure Scotland issues Standard and Enhanced disclosures for individuals who are applying for a relevant position in Scotland.
Basic disclosures are available to anyone, throughout the UK, for any purpose.
Organisations that are based in Scotland, who meet the relevant criteria can apply for disclosures in respect of employees who are based outside the UK.
PVG legislation will affect organisations in Scotland, including employers, charities, sporting and voluntary bodies with posts which involve "regulated work" with "children" and/or "protected adults" which used to access Enhanced Disclosures.
Providing UK wide information - Subject Access Requests
Our service covers information held on databases in the UK. Disclosure Scotland has no input into, or responsibility for, producing Subject Access Reports (SARs). If you require a SAR, you should contact the Scottish Police Force in whose area or areas you reside or resided.
If you live or lived in the UK, but outside Scotland, you should contact:
ACRO (SAO)
PO Box 623
Fareham
Hampshire
PO14 9HR
The Foreign & Commonwealth Office and Criminal Records Bureau may be able to help you with information on non-UK citizens in the UK or UK citizens overseas.
Visit the Foreign & Commonwealth Office site
Visit the Criminal Records Bureau site
Minimum age
There is no age requirement for a disclosure check. Parental consent is advised if a disclosure is sought for individuals less than 14 years of age.
England or Wales?
If you are an individual working or an organisation with positions working in England or Wales you should apply to the Criminal Records Bureau for Standard and Enhanced disclosures.
Northern Ireland?
Individuals or an organisation with positions working in Northern Ireland should apply to Access NI for disclosures.
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Well that's put me in my place 
So if you live in UK you can get a crb for working with kids if you use the Scottish system?
And are you saying that an individual can get one for themselves? This was a major issue for my daughter as she wanted to do hospital training with one-to-one patient contact with a number of organisations and couldn't get one.
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So if you live in UK you can get a crb for working with kids if you use the Scottish system?
And are you saying that an individual can get one for themselves? This was a major issue for my daughter as she wanted to do hospital training with one-to-one patient contact with a number of organisations and couldn't get one.
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02 April 2012, 02:55 AM
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Where exactly do you think Scotland is?
You can do it online, you go through the application and then you need to scan and send them copies of a utility bill as proof of address, and attach your ref number to the email.
I have to do this every few months for my work, as do the few hundred guys that work for the same company who come from all over the UK.
You can do it online, you go through the application and then you need to scan and send them copies of a utility bill as proof of address, and attach your ref number to the email.
I have to do this every few months for my work, as do the few hundred guys that work for the same company who come from all over the UK.
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Well that's put me in my place
So if you live in UK you can get a crb for working with kids if you use the Scottish system?
And are you saying that an individual can get one for themselves? This was a major issue for my daughter as she wanted to do hospital training with one-to-one patient contact with a number of organisations and couldn't get one.
So if you live in UK you can get a crb for working with kids if you use the Scottish system?
And are you saying that an individual can get one for themselves? This was a major issue for my daughter as she wanted to do hospital training with one-to-one patient contact with a number of organisations and couldn't get one.
Disclosure Scotland is the organisation responsible for Basic disclosures for the UK. But they only cover unspent convictions.
For working with children you probably need a Standard or Enhanced Disclosure to include the sex offenders register which are available from the CRB.
You need to define the purpose before deciding the level required and thus the provider.
PS It is like an HPI check. You provide details of who you are, so they know they are not giving the information to the wrong person. Then you get your certificate, which you may choose to disclose to your employer.
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03 April 2012, 07:13 PM
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You have no right to access the information. You dont appear to grasp what the CRB is for, nor how it works.
"...The process by which the CRB provides criminal record data is called "Disclosure". There are two levels of Disclosure: Standard and Enhanced. These checks cannot be obtained by members of the public directly but are only available to organisations and only for those professions, offices, employments, work and occupations listed in the Exceptions Order to the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974.
A third form of disclosure, the "Basic Disclosure", is not currently available, but is intended for individuals to obtain copies of their own criminal record, though members of the public can currently do this by requesting 'subject access' under the Data Protection Act from any British police force, regardless of where the subject lives..."
So, you cant access a person private data, but you can, if you wish, ask them to pay for a 'Subject Access Check' and show you the reply, but they can tell you to f*ck off, which is what I would do, and most other people would too.
You come across on this forum as an idiot, so dont spit your dummy out when youre treated like one.
03 April 2012, 07:21 PM
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As I work in Schools (mainly) we sometimes email the CRB's to the Schools so they know we are checked before hand
I actually got told off for this by Atlantic Data as apparently by Law I am not obliged to show my CRB to anyone other than the Headteacher and HR personnel
I actually got told off for this by Atlantic Data as apparently by Law I am not obliged to show my CRB to anyone other than the Headteacher and HR personnel
03 April 2012, 07:29 PM
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wind your neck in pal, i asked a genuine question and low and behold some ******** (yourself) always has to get clever
if you cant give a decent reply then i ask you not to bother
03 April 2012, 08:07 PM
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As I work in Schools (mainly) we sometimes email the CRB's to the Schools so they know we are checked before hand
I actually got told off for this by Atlantic Data as apparently by Law I am not obliged to show my CRB to anyone other than the Headteacher and HR personnel
I actually got told off for this by Atlantic Data as apparently by Law I am not obliged to show my CRB to anyone other than the Headteacher and HR personnel