New post rates - this is getting silly
27 March 2012, 12:15 PM
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New post rates - this is getting silly
First Class stamps to increase to 60p from 30 April. 30% increase. Just what we all need right now.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17522500
I guess I'll buy a couple of hundred now while thay are still "cheap"
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27 March 2012, 12:29 PM
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I do a lot of business mail shots so about 20 letters a day. More chance of success than using e-mail as the internet is saturated with business crap.
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27 March 2012, 12:45 PM
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27 March 2012, 01:05 PM
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To be fair 60p is still a cheap way of getting something from one end of the country to the other overnight 
The problem the Royal Mail have is competition, private carrier companies have been permitted to cherrry pick the profitable side of the business, but with no requirement to meet the public service obligations imposed upon the Royal Mail
The problem the Royal Mail have is competition, private carrier companies have been permitted to cherrry pick the profitable side of the business, but with no requirement to meet the public service obligations imposed upon the Royal Mail
27 March 2012, 03:02 PM
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To be fair 60p is still a cheap way of getting something from one end of the country to the other overnight
The problem the Royal Mail have is competition, private carrier companies have been permitted to cherrry pick the profitable side of the business, but with no requirement to meet the public service obligations imposed upon the Royal Mail
The problem the Royal Mail have is competition, private carrier companies have been permitted to cherrry pick the profitable side of the business, but with no requirement to meet the public service obligations imposed upon the Royal Mail
The EU is entering the final stages of a 15-year process to open up its postal services to competition, having overcome differences of opinion regarding the speed of liberalisation and how to ensure a universal service for consumers.
It's the EU that is mandating that most of the Post Offices are closed/sold off. So if you want to blame anyone for putting up prices, blame the EU.
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27 March 2012, 03:25 PM
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Current using our franking* account, a second class letter is currently 28pence (vs 36p).
*avoid Pitney bowes though, absolutely appauling customer service...and their franking machines are a load of poo too (ink costs, reliability etc).
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27 March 2012, 07:37 PM
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We send about 50 parcels a day via royal mail so this will be a massive increase even though we use account prices that are quite a bit cheaper. Although the cost of a letter is not really important the cost of parcels will also rise the same sort of amount, so online prices will have to rise, some items such as small bulky items will no longer be viable to post.
27 March 2012, 10:23 PM
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Is it true that 2nd class post is not reliable at all? Apparently 1st class is associated with the postman, whereas 2nd class is believed to have a relationship with fate. Is that kind of correct?
Who should one have an account with? I am asking because I am interested in knowing a bit more this franking thingy before I decide to get one. it will be for business, not just for Christmas.
28 March 2012, 12:07 AM
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Is it true that 2nd class post is not reliable at all? Apparently 1st class is associated with the postman, whereas 2nd class is believed to have a relationship with fate. Is that kind of correct?
Who should one have an account with? I am asking because I am interested in knowing a bit more this franking thingy before I decide to get one. it will be for business, not just for Christmas.
Who should one have an account with? I am asking because I am interested in knowing a bit more this franking thingy before I decide to get one. it will be for business, not just for Christmas.
Although I franked all my christams cards and sent them second class at christmas (Shhhh.
) and I 'think' everyone received their card. 
Currently we're using FP (Francotyp-Postalia ) and have a little mymail franking machine. Not the quickest of things on the planet, but its fine for us as we have about 20 odd letters to send out everyday. It uses the printer workings out of a old-school Hewlet Packard 720 printer, so nice big ink cartridge and pretty solid printing internals (unlike the Pitney Bowes one which hemorrhaged ink everywhere).
Downloading postage (bit like pay as you go) via the internet is pretty pain free once set up, but you do have to follow the instruction by the letter as it works via USB on a computer and the software will only connect when the franking machine is in standby. But it can work via the phone line instead (although it does incurr a call charge).
28 March 2012, 12:57 AM
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Well with franking, because its stamped with a serial number and dated, it can serve as proof of postage. I'm unaware of any of our 2nd class stuff going missing, but usually its informal correspondance and its all within our locality of the Midlands area, so it not like I'm sending stuff to the Outer Hebrides. More pressing stuff like invoices goes 1st class. Final demands are sent via signed for etc.
Although I franked all my christams cards and sent them second class at christmas (Shhhh. ) and I 'think' everyone received their card.
) and I 'think' everyone received their card.
), then. 
Currently we're using FP (Francotyp-Postalia ) and have a little mymail franking machine. Not the quickest of things on the planet, but its fine for us as we have about 20 odd letters to send out everyday. It uses the printer workings out of a old-school Hewlet Packard 720 printer, so nice big ink cartridge and pretty solid printing internals (unlike the Pitney Bowes one which hemorrhaged ink everywhere).
Downloading postage (bit like pay as you go) via the internet is pretty pain free once set up, but you do have to follow the instruction by the letter as it works via USB on a computer and the software will only connect when the franking machine is in standby. But it can work via the phone line instead (although it does incurr a call charge).
Downloading postage (bit like pay as you go) via the internet is pretty pain free once set up, but you do have to follow the instruction by the letter as it works via USB on a computer and the software will only connect when the franking machine is in standby. But it can work via the phone line instead (although it does incurr a call charge).
Many thanks, Ali. Above information^ is very useful.
28 March 2012, 02:04 PM
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28 March 2012, 02:31 PM
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I wonder if the channel islands has anything to do with this?
The likes of Moonpig and Amazon Music where stuff I've odered has come the next day is pretty impressive considering the distances involved. The logistics of the transport/sorting costs must be huge. And we're still one of a few countries that employs doorstep deliveies of mail and has loads of postboxes littered everywhere.... Spain have centralised pigeon holes which could be over a mile away from your house! And postboxes are a rare sight.
I say be thankful for what we have.
I do think maybe a time should come wherepostage costs should be dictated by distance. For exmaple the costs have to be cheaper to send stuff within 100 miles of where I live as opposed to sending something to the other end of the country.
Maybe when Scotland becomes independant we'll have to send stuff as international (within EU) mail like we have to do with Ireland. That should cut postage costs for local mail, as employing postman Pat to razz round the highlands in his van to deliver to some remote farmer's doorstep must cost a flippin' fortune.
The likes of Moonpig and Amazon Music where stuff I've odered has come the next day is pretty impressive considering the distances involved. The logistics of the transport/sorting costs must be huge. And we're still one of a few countries that employs doorstep deliveies of mail and has loads of postboxes littered everywhere.... Spain have centralised pigeon holes which could be over a mile away from your house! And postboxes are a rare sight.
I say be thankful for what we have.
I do think maybe a time should come wherepostage costs should be dictated by distance. For exmaple the costs have to be cheaper to send stuff within 100 miles of where I live as opposed to sending something to the other end of the country.
Maybe when Scotland becomes independant we'll have to send stuff as international (within EU) mail like we have to do with Ireland. That should cut postage costs for local mail, as employing postman Pat to razz round the highlands in his van to deliver to some remote farmer's doorstep must cost a flippin' fortune.
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letters are dieing off but parcel delivery is going through the roof. i had a towbar with the long bar that fits to the chassis posted for £8, a few years ago that would have been £30 odd quid at least.
as long as there is enough volume for parcelforce i reckon prices wont rise much ,if they do they will go down the pan because of the competition.
as long as there is enough volume for parcelforce i reckon prices wont rise much ,if they do they will go down the pan because of the competition.
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I wonder if the channel islands has anything to do with this?
The likes of Moonpig and Amazon Music where stuff I've odered has come the next day is pretty impressive considering the distances involved. The logistics of the transport/sorting costs must be huge. And we're still one of a few countries that employs doorstep deliveies of mail and has loads of postboxes littered everywhere.... Spain have centralised pigeon holes which could be over a mile away from your house! And postboxes are a rare sight.
I say be thankful for what we have.
I do think maybe a time should come wherepostage costs should be dictated by distance. For exmaple the costs have to be cheaper to send stuff within 100 miles of where I live as opposed to sending something to the other end of the country.
Maybe when Scotland becomes independant we'll have to send stuff as international (within EU) mail like we have to do with Ireland. That should cut postage costs for local mail, as employing postman Pat to razz round the highlands in his van to deliver to some remote farmer's doorstep must cost a flippin' fortune.
The likes of Moonpig and Amazon Music where stuff I've odered has come the next day is pretty impressive considering the distances involved. The logistics of the transport/sorting costs must be huge. And we're still one of a few countries that employs doorstep deliveies of mail and has loads of postboxes littered everywhere.... Spain have centralised pigeon holes which could be over a mile away from your house! And postboxes are a rare sight.
I say be thankful for what we have.
I do think maybe a time should come wherepostage costs should be dictated by distance. For exmaple the costs have to be cheaper to send stuff within 100 miles of where I live as opposed to sending something to the other end of the country.
Maybe when Scotland becomes independant we'll have to send stuff as international (within EU) mail like we have to do with Ireland. That should cut postage costs for local mail, as employing postman Pat to razz round the highlands in his van to deliver to some remote farmer's doorstep must cost a flippin' fortune.
its the same in the north of england with drivers having to deliver to remote farms so dont think you`ll be saving much there......
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