kingofturds

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So how are motorists going to fare in this budget? are they going to give us a break or bend us over and shaft us dry as usual?

Luan Pra bang

Costs of motoring at the moment are a joke, if fuel and VED go up again I will be extremely angry. Today I drove around my GFs clio becuase I was so pissed of at spending almost £200 on fuel last week. My collection of cars is going to turn into a couple of rusting old escort and corsa vans that run on veggie oil.

pmcb

iTrader: (1)

You wish

I'm having to shop at bloody Lidl to afford the luxury of driving the car and I hate German food

ScoobyWon't

You know what's coming. You may as well make it less painful.

urban

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Motorists will get shafted, the b@stard will probably introduce another of those incremental increases

Steve vRS

The personal allowance in increasing but I bet the threshold that you start to pay 40% tax will drop by the same amount so I'll be no better off.

Steve

cookstar

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This is exactly how it will happen, but the increase in personal allowance is not there to benefit higher rate earners.

EddScott

Whatever happens if its really bad they'll have Clegg on BBC Breakfast tomorrow trying to justify the budget.

Poor ba5tard always gets put in front of the camera when its bad news.

Lee247

Shafted, good and proper That increase on fuel will no doubt go on the heating oil too.

jef

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alex samond commented today, the scottish "islanders" fuel subsidy is just getting implemented at roughly same time the expect fuel duty rise - wiping out the subsidy

whether thats true or not im not sure, but if it is, a big LOL to the islanders

only kidding i think thats shameful tbh.

the fact people NEED to use cars is just being continually exploited, how far is it going to go - next 5 years will we be looking at £2+ per litre, it just seems relentless.

urban

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I trust you are all signed up to the fair fuel campaign?

jef

iTrader: (13)

no, i trust your just about to post the link lol

Bean1984

iTrader: (3)

Think im gonna find other means of getting to work now. Well as we know its the motorist that cops the bill. If george osbournie reads this give us a b****y brieak. Id love to see thenm cope on low salaries

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17458423

An0n0m0us

3p a litre rise in August, and just how much will it have risen by then before that even comes into play anyway. It always goes high over Summer so looks like this Summer will the worst yet for the motorist. What makes it a joke is that my diesel now costs the same in fuel as when I was running my first classic scoob

I really don't know how people who aren't well off can afford to run Impreza turbos, it must cost them a fortune in fuel a week. All those old classics now parked up on pavements on council estates (plenty round here), yes the car cost peanuts to buy but how can they be affording fuel and insurance?!

urban

iTrader: (1)

Ta da

http://www.fairfueluk.com/index.html

Get signed up.
I'm convinced that its thanks to this that the previous updates were scrapped.

GlesgaKiss

The average tank of petrol now must be well over £60. How many will get a week out of that? For someone on an average wage, that's a fair old whack out of their wages just on fuel to get there!

I started driving in 2004 and the fuel was HALF the price it is now. Hard to believe fuel has actually doubled in such a short space of time. Makes a huge difference. I used to be able to fill my first car on half a day's pay just doing cash in hand labour! Guess that fun is over now for the new generation of young folk. Seems like there's less and less you can actually do to enjoy yourself now unless it involves sitting in front of the tv or using some technology. The govt up here also has plans to set a floor under the price of alcohol.

If they could just tell us what we are allowed to do without being punished for it, that would be nice!

jef

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get that link stickied imo mate.

motorists are just the easiest income generators for governments.

weve been down the enviroment route, saftey route (for constant monitoring/cash genration) with cameras. this now hits everysingle firm in the uk. and apparantly the government is trying to stimulate growth??

GS they want to know what your doing, when your doing it, where you go to do it, and then tax it.

J4CKO

iTrader: (1)

Do you not think there is a slight irony there Glesga, you are moaning about paying VED on money earnt that you didnt pay tax on, and there is the rub, if everybody paid their dues and I am not singling you out for the odd fifty quid, but ***** like Phillip Green missapropriating a Billion quid, because he can and all the others who can afford to spend money on clever accountants to save even more. Couple that with the Cash economy, the benefits generation and importing thousands of people who we then look after but then dont contribute its no wonder they look to something on which tax cannot really be avoided.

GlesgaKiss

To be honest, J4CKO, I doubt I would have been over the threshold the length of time - and the days of the week - I was doing it. But yes, it should have been reported no doubt.

But no, I don't really see it as much of a problem? I paid road tax and the tax on the fuel.

I reckon sales tax would be a better way to tax people anyway. You could have more tax on more expensive items. If they eliminated taxes on investment and savings, I bet this country would be in better financial shape.

GlesgaKiss

Check out this quote from a hundred-and-fifty-odd years ago.

"I would like to imagine with what new traits despotism could be produced in the world. I see an innumerable multitude of men, alike and equal, who turn about without repose in order to procure for themselves petty and vulgar pleasures with which they fill their souls. Each of them, withdrawn apart, is a virtual stranger, unaware of the fate of the others: his children and his particular friends form for him the entirety of the human race; as for his fellow citizens, he is beside them but he sees them not; he touches them and senses them not; he exists only in himself and for himself alone, and, if he still has a family, one could say at least that he no longer has a fatherland.

Over these is elevated an immense, tutelary power, which takes sole charge of assuring their enjoyment and of watching over their fate. It is absolute, attentive to detail, regular, provident, and gentle. It would resemble the paternal power if, like that power, it had as its object to prepare men for manhood, but it seeks, to the contrary, to keep them irrevocably fixed in childhood; it loves the fact that the citizens enjoy themselves provided that they dream solely of their own enjoyment. It works willingly for their happiness, but it wishes to be the only agent and the sole arbiter of that happiness. It provides for their security, foresees and supplies their needs, guides them in the principal affairs, directs their industry, regulates their testaments, divides their inheritances. Can it not relieve them entirely of the trouble of thinking and of the effort associated with living?

In this fashion, every day, it renders the employment of free will less useful and more rare; it confines the action of the will within a smaller space, and bit by bit it steals from each citizen the use of that which is his own. Equality has prepared men for all of these things: it has disposed them to put up with them and often even to regard them as a benefit.

After having taken each individual in this fashion by turns into its powerful hands, and after having kneaded him in accord with its desires, the sovereign extends its arms about the society as a whole; it covers its surface with a network of petty regulations—complicated, minute, and uniform—through which even the most original minds and the most vigorous souls know not how to make their way past the crowd and emerge into the light of day. It does not break wills; it softens them, bends them, and directs them; rarely does it force one to act, but it constantly opposes itself to one’s acting on one’s own; it does not destroy; it prevents things from being born; it does not tyrannize, it gets in the way, it curtails, it enervates, it extinguishes, it stupefies, and finally it reduces each nation to nothing more than a herd of timid and industrious animals, of which the government is the shepherd.
"

Alexis de Tocqueville; seemingly quite a good forecaster.

Lee247

I bet the booze cruise to France hots up after the increases in drink and smokes
I noticed too, the 40% tax on earnings kicks in at £41450 in 2013 instead of £42475. Seems a tad unfair and sneaky. So earn over £150,000 pay 45% Earn £42000 and pay 40%
And the poor motorist, VED up by inflation and the fuel, I have already commented.

How this is supposed to help the economy, I have no idea. It's going to cost everyone because the paltry tax reduction will be swallowed by the fuel increases. I really hope folks grow a backbone and start to kick off about it all. I would happily join any protests, as long as I can afford to put some petrol in my car

alcazar

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We all stood by and allowed Lying Labour to first vilify, then demonise and finally criminalise the motorist.

THEN we stood by when a few brave souls tried to stop it going over £1 a litre.

Why are we now surprised to be shafted at every end and turn?

chocolate_o_brian

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I run mine as a daily driver and only earn approx £1200 as an apprentice. Budget £40 pw fuel for approx 140 miles and insurance is £685 currently.

Oh and I have a mortgage, a wife to be with expensive Primark taste and a one year old son

stilover

Signed.

Diesel has risen by 2p round here just last week. Now at £144.9

Can see it hitting £1.50 by June.

stilover

Plus. Just wait for the new VED tax bands.

Drive anything over 200g/km co2 and expect to get clobbered hard. Hopefully it won't be dated back to car registered before the new bands. Can see it going as high as £1000 per annum for so called "Gas Guslers".

mart360

Lol

Alchol up by 2% above RPi (7.3%)

**** up by 5% on top of RPi 10.3%

VED up by RPi 5.3%


But you will be able to pay by direct debit, soon, (subject to a huge mothly admin fee lol)



Mart

ScoobyWon't

Looks like more pubs will be going out of business then!

Jamescsti

The way the cost of diesel is going, I'm thinking of buying a scooby instead to save money!

DYK

I'm not surprised one bit that fuel didn't get reduced in the budget.Trouble is in this country is the nation won't come together for a big ruckus,were all in our own little bubble,only a few will look outside and see what is happening but it isn't enough to change anything.So we will continue to get *** Raped and the lube has now run empty for some,and the pain is starting to hit.

Bring on £2.00 a ltr