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Old 09 December 2011, 08:10 PM
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Default Good university for engineering?

Eldest son has decided he'd like to do a degree. (NOW he tells us, when it's dearer that it's EVER been).

We live in Scunthorpe.
What universities are rated for engineering?
Or where could we look to find out?
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Old 09 December 2011, 08:23 PM
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Imperial College (London)
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I did engineering too.

What sort is he after exactly?

I did Motorsport Engineering at Swansea Metropolitan and it was excellent. Went on to Oxford Brookes to do an MSc in Motorsport too, which was also excellent. I've heard good things about the Loughborough Mechanical Engineering course.
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This had a good rep years ago..........

http://www.undergraduate.hw.ac.uk/programmes/H100/

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Swansea has one of the best Engineering Degree`s that you can get.
http://www.swan.ac.uk/engineering/

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It all depends on what type of engineering he's in to.
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As said it depends on what engineering he wants to study and also how far away from home he wants to move, if he does want to move away. If he is interested in proper engine research etc then the uni I am studying at, Queens University Belfast is now of the leading universities in the UK for this. Very good engineering course regardless of the engine side of things as well but its obviously a significant move away.

Have a look at the times university guide as well.
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Other engine based universities;

Swansea Metropolitan University
Oxford Brookes University
Cranfield University
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Originally Posted by CREWJ
I did Motorsport Engineering at Swansea Metropolitan and it was excellent. Went on to Oxford Brookes to do an MSc in Motorsport too, which was also excellent. I've heard good things about the Loughborough Mechanical Engineering course.
My mate did exactly that last year! Said it was the place to be, but got a bit disillusioned with the whole career path after a while.
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Originally Posted by GlesgaKiss
My mate did exactly that last year! Said it was the place to be, but got a bit disillusioned with the whole career path after a while.
Nice, was it last year he graduated?
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Originally Posted by CREWJ
Nice, was it last year he graduated?
No, I mean he was really there for just one year.

Very smart guy, but likes going out and having a good time too much!
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Surrey, for high-tech (satellite, space research). They may well have links with McClaren too, which is just up the road.

Guildford is a pricey area though.
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Wants to do Mech. Eng. I think, would like to be an engineer on a steelworks, oil refinery etc.

What about Sheffield Hallam? Good links with the steel industry?

Editted to say, he's at present a plater/welder, but is working for people who are not as bright as he is, and thinks his career paths are too short.

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Teeside university have an engineering campus. believe it is in darlington.
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Teeside Uni is in Middlesborough.
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Loughborough is pretty good for basics like that.
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Originally Posted by CREWJ
I did Motorsport Engineering at Swansea Metropolitan and it was excellent. Went on to Oxford Brookes to do an MSc in Motorsport too, which was also excellent. I've heard good things about the Loughborough Mechanical Engineering course.
I would loved to have taken that course. A few of the lads I used to race RC cars with were on that course in Swansea. Got cool jobs from it too. One went to Ford RnD and one works for Pirelli F1 (used to be Bridgestone)
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Hertfordshire has quite a large engineering section - they have a well developed aeronautical section due British Aerospace being round the corner - not there now though. Also has quite a developed motorsport section, with their own wind tunnel.
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Sheffield And Nottingham Universities (not the old poly's) for a Mechanical Engineeing Degree (B.Eng Hons)

Or if he is clever enough

Emmanuel College - Cambridge University.
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Originally Posted by EddScott
I would loved to have taken that course. A few of the lads I used to race RC cars with were on that course in Swansea. Got cool jobs from it too. One went to Ford RnD and one works for Pirelli F1 (used to be Bridgestone)
Wouldn't happen to be Kev would it?
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Originally Posted by Squarepusher
Sheffield And Nottingham Universities (not the old poly's) for a Mechanical Engineeing Degree (B.Eng Hons)

Or if he is clever enough

Emmanuel College - Cambridge University.
Having attended Pembroke College Cambridge for a year I would not recommend it for an Engineering degree if Im honest. Its a great university but the general engineering approach in the first two years means a whole heap of pressure caused by studying subjects you have no real interest in which in my case was electronics and civil engineering. Hence the reason I left and went to QUB, much more focused course and I genuinely enjoy going to uni every day unlike my time at Cambridge.

If he is going to do an Engineering degree I would get onto an MEng pathway at the start. This means your masters is cheaper and to be honest the MEng will help with employability first of all and chartership later on. It is also not much more difficult then the BEng course although obviously does take a year longer.
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http://www.thecompleteuniversityguid...ables/rankings
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Originally Posted by CREWJ
Other engine based universities;

Swansea Metropolitan University
Oxford Brookes University
Cranfield University

Aren't these old Polytechnics? (ie for people who couldn't get into a proper University?)
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
Aren't these old Polytechnics? (ie for people who couldn't get into a proper University?)
They are but they are all accredited now. The problem with other universities is that they are too theory based. No one wants to employ someone that doesn't know how to do a job.

Pretty much everyone we employ in the engineering department went to some form of former polytechnic because they know about engineering and not just the theory of engineering.
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Thanks to all who have answered, plenty there.
Any more?
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Bath. Fantastic place, great reputation and its students get jobs.

Worked there 30 years ago, and it has superb facilities. Well worth a look, though it's along way from Scunthorpe

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I have heard that Surrey University are pretty good.

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Originally Posted by CREWJ
They are but they are all accredited now. The problem with other universities is that they are too theory based. No one wants to employ someone that doesn't know how to do a job.

Pretty much everyone we employ in the engineering department went to some form of former polytechnic because they know about engineering and not just the theory of engineering.
Ummm, I don't entirely agree with that statement. Just because you attend a university that has a strong background in theory does not mean that you do not know how to do a job.

For example I can speak from experience here. Of the PhD students I have known in my time at QUB, one was employed at Mercedes Benz HPE and now works for Mclaren. Another has just stepped into a great role with BP developing fuels. Another is employed by one of the biggest manufacturer of electronic tyre pressure sensors, Schrader. Another is wanted by all, and I mean all, of the big turbo manufacturers in the world at the minute and is currently choosing.

Some places some recent masters graduates have been employed: Aston Martin, Mclaren, JLR, CDE, Bombardier, Schrader, Schlumberger, Airbus, Rolls Royce, Prodrive. The list goes on and on ranging from some of the biggest and best companies in the world to local firms.

Meanwhile the old polytechnic down the road, university of ulster jordanstown, struggle to get people on placement years never mind employed and those who do tend to end up in smaller local companies, very few end up at the leading names.

To be a proper engineer you need to have the theory, this is the difference between an good engineer and a good technician. You should be able to teach any engineer how to do a job, especially if they have a good degree from a good uni, however it will be much harder to teach the technician the theory.

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Old 10 December 2011, 08:36 PM
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Go to a "university" containing "metropolitan" or the name of a county/region/person instead of or as well as a city name, will result in you having to explain a lot in future, much like TTRS owners
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Originally Posted by scubbay
Ummm, I don't entirely agree with that statement. Just because you attend a university that has a strong background in theory does not mean that you do not know how to do a job.

For example I can speak from experience here. Of the PhD students I have known in my time at QUB, one was employed at Mercedes Benz HPE and now works for Mclaren. Another has just stepped into a great role with BP developing fuels. Another is employed by one of the biggest manufacturer of electronic tyre pressure sensors, Schrader. Another is wanted by all, and I mean all, of the big turbo manufacturers in the world at the minute and is currently choosing.

Some places some recent masters graduates have been employed: Aston Martin, Mclaren, JLR, CDE, Bombardier, Schrader, Schlumberger, Airbus, Rolls Royce, Prodrive. The list goes on and on ranging from some of the biggest and best companies in the world to local firms.

Meanwhile the old polytechnic down the road, university of ulster jordanstown, struggle to get people on placement years never mind employed and those who do tend to end up in smaller local companies, very few end up at the leading names.

To be a proper engineer you need to have the theory, this is the difference between an good engineer and a good technician. You should be able to teach any engineer how to do a job, especially if they have a good degree from a good uni, however it will be much harder to teach the technician the theory.
I didn't say all the old poly unis were good.

From my class there are at least 25 of them working in F1 right now. To be honest, JLR, Aston, Airbus and co will take on anyone. They just mass took on in recent years. They regularly hire and fire.


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