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29 October 2011, 11:51 AM
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No PC bumf with this lot ..
Ultimate calling their bluff
http://news.uk.msn.com/world/qantas-...t-amid-strikes
like the last line
Mart
http://news.uk.msn.com/world/qantas-...t-amid-strikes
like the last line
Mart
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29 October 2011, 01:10 PM
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Takes an Aussie company to show disruptive unions up for what they are.
Hopefully the wishy washy government and corporations here at home are taking notes! Doubt it though as it would require the growing of a spine, something Aussies have that we do not!
Hopefully the wishy washy government and corporations here at home are taking notes! Doubt it though as it would require the growing of a spine, something Aussies have that we do not!
29 October 2011, 08:08 PM
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I hope that they refuse to fly home any (potentially) striking pilots or air-crew when they ground their flights all over the works (and don't pay for their hotels either, 'cos they are no longer at work).
Maybe BA could take note?
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Maybe BA could take note?
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29 October 2011, 08:14 PM
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I can never understand how these staff can get away with striking and damaging the company they work for without being punished. I'm sure there would be plenty of people willing to fill those jobs.
Surely, if they sacked them then the payouts for unfair dismissal would only be as much as the lost revenue from strike action.
Surely, if they sacked them then the payouts for unfair dismissal would only be as much as the lost revenue from strike action.
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29 October 2011, 10:02 PM
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Hopefully this is a sign that Aussie industry is finally fighting them and their greed
30 October 2011, 12:33 AM
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Erm, no. For a start, I'd bet that not everyone is in a union. I'd also like to think that staff not on strike would turn up for work as per contract. How that translates into Australian employment law is beyond me however...
Also, if they're what's the phrase... "realigning their cost base..." then they don't give a stuff about retaining lots of staff in Australia. The more that decide to walk, the quicker their costs come down as they gear up in cheaper locations.
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Also, if they're what's the phrase... "realigning their cost base..." then they don't give a stuff about retaining lots of staff in Australia. The more that decide to walk, the quicker their costs come down as they gear up in cheaper locations.
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30 October 2011, 10:52 AM
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"Industrial Action" should result in "unemployment".
Why is it that only workers whose absence results in mass-disruption go on strike?
What about shops, offices, restaurants? These people know they have us over a barrel and they use it for selfish greed. They signed the contracts, knew what the job was and what the pay was.
Our office at work, full of data entry people, they haven't had a pay rise in 3 years - do they go on strike? No. If they did, could other people instantly do their job? Yes.
Doesn't matter what argument is thrown up in defence, it is not justifiable.
Why is it that only workers whose absence results in mass-disruption go on strike?
What about shops, offices, restaurants? These people know they have us over a barrel and they use it for selfish greed. They signed the contracts, knew what the job was and what the pay was.
Our office at work, full of data entry people, they haven't had a pay rise in 3 years - do they go on strike? No. If they did, could other people instantly do their job? Yes.
Doesn't matter what argument is thrown up in defence, it is not justifiable.
30 October 2011, 11:00 AM
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30 October 2011, 02:43 PM
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Not the impression I'm getting from the wife's sister and her family, who all live & work in Melbourne, if they are to believed, companies really struggle to get anything done without the full approval of the relevant unions
Although I also get the impression that some unions aren't popular with the people they allegedly represent either
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Although I also get the impression that some unions aren't popular with the people they allegedly represent either
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30 October 2011, 02:49 PM
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My first few years in work, and first hand experience of shop stewards and their activities have somewhat coloured my opinions though
30 October 2011, 03:37 PM
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Erm, no. For a start, I'd bet that not everyone is in a union. I'd also like to think that staff not on strike would turn up for work as per contract. How that translates into Australian employment law is beyond me however...
Also, if they're what's the phrase... "realigning their cost base..." then they don't give a stuff about retaining lots of staff in Australia. The more that decide to walk, the quicker their costs come down as they gear up in cheaper locations.
J.
Also, if they're what's the phrase... "realigning their cost base..." then they don't give a stuff about retaining lots of staff in Australia. The more that decide to walk, the quicker their costs come down as they gear up in cheaper locations.
J.
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I did consider defending myself from the above rather rude post but then it occurred to me that the temptation to use terms such as " Ill mannered behaviour", "Intolerance", and "Ageism" would drag me down to his level, so I didn't bother. I just thought I would explain that, even though I would have a perfect right to do so. Its not as if I started it anyway.
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