mgcvk

Scholey - what a c*nt

http://www.businessinsider.com/sir-d...ey-lion-2011-9

Tidgy

I'm a bit open minded to this.

The way the hunts are run now, that one kill will help keep 10 others protected and alive. Animals which would have been poached are being protected by hunters payouts. So is it good or bad?

f1_fan

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Complete and utter c**t!

Yes, maybe because you are in their territory pointing a gun at them you cowardly piece of ****!!!!

Hope he gets cancer and it kills him painfully and slowly!

speedking

Not dissimilar to farming. Animal is bred, reared and killed for pleasure.

dpb

Its the posiblity that the 'prize' perpetuates the myth that these wild animals parts may provide some kind of aphrodisiac among the far east population that troubles me


That the fat ****er is unable to get his jollies climbing some mountain or something is just a bit sad

classic Subaru Si

eh?? no mate, its totally not the same as farming is it - are you a veggie by any chance?

jef

iTrader: (13)

i understand there money helps pay for conservation

but if they really gave a fck theyd just pay the money to go and look at the fckin animals

the headline idve like to read would be "lion eats banker" lol

jef

iTrader: (13)

lol farming is not raising animals to be killed for pleasure????

are you mental? its for food.

CREWJ

I didn't realize hunting was still going on.

If you think about it Farming is worse on the animals.

Trout

iTrader: (1)

Now there is the truth!

jef

iTrader: (13)

two wrongs dont make a right though?

farming isnt worse for the lion is it?

farming is definatley very bad in certain areas - but whats the point in killing a lion?

its the excuse of it paying for conservation, just pay without killing - whats wrong with that?

Wurzel

iTrader: (1)

It would have been more fun if he and the lion had been let lose and he had to hunt it, give the lion a fighting chance rather than the lion not knowing what hit it from hundreds of metres away.

CREWJ

I agree killing the Lion for the sake of it isn't exactly a great idea.

But are you saying a Lions life is worth more than, say, that of a cow?

jef

iTrader: (13)

no, im not saying that at all

im just saying - its a pointless kill for the persons enjoyment - not a trait i admire.

CREWJ

Ok yeah I get you.

speedking

Not a veggie. The lion wouldn't exist without the hunt. The hunter pays a hell of a lot more than someone on safari with a camera.

Foie gras, battery hens, farmed salmon, veal, lambs, who's to say they have less value than a 'magnificent' lion?

GlesgaKiss

But it isn't just for survival, since we have large surpluses of food. Is it so different killing an animal for pleasure than it is killing it to eat: another form of pleasure, or at least the reduction of displeasure. Furthermore, what makes killing them to eat any more noble than just killing them? It's still us doing it. Where do we get the right to take their life for the continuation of our own? I'm sure the ones killed for food aren't any more accepting than the ones killed for other reasons. It won't console them knowing they're going to be eaten to allow us to live.

speedking

Like bullfighting

speedking

Do we need steak, surely we could survive on goat (is a goat less worthy than a cow?) Why should a cow struggle to walk, and be confined in a field, just so it can provide an enormous amount of milk, that we drink for pleasure, because water would do pretty much the same job?

hodgy0_2

i nuked an underground wasp nest in the garden with petrol

quite exiting tbh -- and those fvckers never stood a chance

GlesgaKiss

Congratulations, you mass murderer.

Just be glad there weren't any lions down there. You'd be burned at the steak while an angry mob looks on and laughs.

jef

iTrader: (13)

human beings are omnivores - personal choice to go vegan or whatever, but by nature were not.

by your sentance above, no species would be alive today, as they dont have the right to take anothers life. even the herbivores. but unfortunatley thats not the way life has evolved

life is unfair, by its nature. animals inc us need food to survive. but each and evry one of the living things on this planet contributes to sustaining more life one way or another.

some may kill more than they contribute in the long run.

for me its not about nobility or a "magnificant" lion, its about my thought process which conclude in killing for fun is not acceptable. by my standards. clearly others disagree, and there entitled to. im not forcing people to confirm to my thoughts - just airing them.

but it makes me draw a conclusion on the kind of person thats involved in this - and persoanlly i think there right fcking w*nkers lol

GlesgaKiss

If you eat meat now, you're eating for pleasure. Certainly, it must be the pleasure you get from bodybuilding that drives you to eat so much of it. Those animals die needlessly, by your logic; for pleasure as opposed to 'necessity', which is more morally acceptable.

If you pay someone to kill the animal for you, so that you can then eat it and get pleasure from the goal for which you use it, is that better than just killing it yourself for another kind of pleasure?

urban

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Looks like a pretty good shot though

dpb

i bet this particular murderer didnt eat it either

Theyd make more money letting loose a handful of upper class twits from the city armed with air pistols , kind of redress the balance a bit

fivetide

iTrader: (1)

Last time I checked milk was one of the most vitamin rich food sources we have. Water is a necessity but it doesn't have much calcium in it for example.

We need protein in our diets. Poor countries often see malnutrition due to a lack of certain elements in their diet and inexpensive food, like farmed chicken, is about the cheapest source of protein some people can get.

I'm not for cruelty but some rose tinted glasses need removing.

I'm loving the Daily Mash take on this though.

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/e...-201109124291/

5t.

mamoon2

Don't agree with killing something your not going to eat or for vermin purposes

jef

iTrader: (13)

eating meat now is certainly not for pleasure alone - i dont understand how you can come to that conclusion.

its certainley not for pleasure, it WAS a means to an end when bodybuilding.

but its also provides, essential vitamins, minerals and other nutrients that human beings require to stay healthy.

not all protein comes from meat, there are many other sources, eg milk, eggs,whey, cottage cheese,beans, some vegetables ect. and these made up a large part of my diet whilst growing - a lot down to cost. some animal products there, but not at direct exepense of death of the animal. altho some did ie steak chicken, fish ect.

but again humans need these nutrients as part of a healthy balanced diet - to remain healthy and provide the body with what it needs to maintain, repair itself, produce hormones, maintain immune systems and countless other functions.

we basically evolved and adapted to use our surrounding resources - and thats why they are essentail in our diets

and yes in my eyes iys better killing the animal and putting it to use, as a food source than just killing for the pleasure of taking somethings life for a trophy or ego or other reason.

Trout

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Modern humans eat WAY more meat than they need to - it's habit.

Therefore it is as a minimum an indulgence - mostly likely an habitual pleasure.

hodgy0_2

tell that to my wife!!