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Old 31 July 2011, 12:31 PM
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Former PM to be held to account on Iraq in Chilcot report on war

Old 31 July 2011, 12:45 PM
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Teflon Tony will wriggle his way out of that with ease.
Old 31 July 2011, 01:14 PM
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Default Blair 'Heavily Criticised' In Iraq Report

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/blair-heavi...105453642.html

The Iraq Inquiry is poised to deliver damning criticism of Tony Blair's handling of the war, according to reports.

The inquiry will condemn the former prime minister for telling Parliament that intelligence suggesting Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction was "beyond doubt", says the Mail On Sunday.

The paper claims Mr Blair will be criticised for failing to admit to a "secret pledge" to go to war, made to former US president George Bush when they met at a Texas ranch in 2002.

In a report out this autumn Mr Blair will also come under fire for operating a "sofa government" - a small core of key allies that confer away from formal meetings - so cabinet ministers were unaware of vital information.


I look forward to seeing the written report then...
Old 31 July 2011, 01:15 PM
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A bit like this then: https://www.scoobynet.com/non-scooby...ony-blair.html

Old 31 July 2011, 01:40 PM
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Lol! Granted there are a couple of similarities
Old 31 July 2011, 02:17 PM
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About time too.

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Old 31 July 2011, 03:08 PM
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What are they going to 'damn' him for anyway? For being incompetent? A bad PM? For going with dodgy intelligence (that he did not gather)?

Seems to be a lot of lefty 'stop the war' types want some great cathartic punishment handed out.

I'm not fan of Blair but these types need to get a life and move on.
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He needs holding to account for the illegal war in Iraq, I doubt it will ever happen though as people like him never have to account for their wrongdoings

Cameron needs the same for Libya!
Old 31 July 2011, 03:37 PM
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Sadam needed stopping legal or not
Old 31 July 2011, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Ant
Sadam needed stopping legal or not
Stopping from doing what exactly????

He was no threat to us, not our war to fight!
Old 31 July 2011, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
He needs holding to account for the illegal war in Iraq, I doubt it will ever happen though as people like him never have to account for their wrongdoings

Cameron needs the same for Libya!
Libyan war had the backing of the UN whreas the Iraq war did not.

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Old 31 July 2011, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Stopping from doing what exactly????

He was no threat to us, not our war to fight!

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Originally Posted by f1_fan
He needs holding to account for the illegal war in Iraq, I doubt it will ever happen though as people like him never have to account for their wrongdoings

Cameron needs the same for Libya!
Sounds like this is not a question of law but of politics.
Old 31 July 2011, 03:47 PM
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The only way Blair can be held to full account if he is tried in the international criminal court as a war criminal at the Hague for engaging in a military conflict without justification of self-defense.
Old 31 July 2011, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
Libyan war had the backing of the UN whreas the Iraq war did not.

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No it didn't... a UN resolution was passed to allow the protecting of civilians yet within hours it became about regime change.

Just another WMD/45 mins made up excuse to get stuck in. Cameron is as bad as Blair. They are both lying self serving scum!
Old 31 July 2011, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Stopping from doing what exactly????

He was no threat to us, not our war to fight!
You knew he wasn't a threat to us how exactly?

He killed his own people in my opinion you can't stand let this happen even if it's not anything to do with us.

Whats your opinion be if we let him get on with it and something did happen to the uk. I'm sure your opinion would differ
Old 31 July 2011, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
The only way Blair can be held to full account if he is tried in the international criminal court as a war criminal at the Hague for engaging in a military conflict without justification of self-defense.
Like when we declared war on **** Germany?
Old 31 July 2011, 04:44 PM
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Saddam had numerous violations of UN resolutions against him anyway.

LOL at people like F1 defending a monster like Saddam and his psycho sons.
Old 31 July 2011, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Ant
You knew he wasn't a threat to us how exactly?
Because he had no WMDs, never had had any and there was no evidence to say he did other than that made up for the purposes of going to war

Originally Posted by Ant
He killed his own people in my opinion you can't stand let this happen even if it's not anything to do with us.
Syria? Burma? North Korea? Sierra Leone? Zimbabwe? etc. etc. - why do you feel so sorry for the Iraqi people, but not those from other countries under oppressive regimes? Or are you campaigning to get our troops in ther etoo... No you are not... so your arguient is BS!

Originally Posted by Ant
Whats your opinion be if we let him get on with it and something did happen to the uk. I'm sure your opinion would differ
But it didn't and it wouldn't. Maybe if we hadn't gone to Iraq then several disaffected Muslims would not have carried out 7/7... ludicrous assumption you will say, but a lot less ludicrous than your what if something had happened nonsense!
Old 31 July 2011, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Saddam had numerous violations of UN resolutions against him anyway.

LOL at people like F1 defending a monster like Saddam and his psycho sons.
LOL at you claiming I am defending him justy to get the usual rise. It just was not our war to fight. That is all I am saying and all I have ever said!

Oh and this thread... locked by sundown I reckon
Old 31 July 2011, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Maybe if we hadn't gone to Iraq then several disaffected Muslims would not have carried out 7/7... ludicrous assumption you will say, but a lot less ludicrous than your what if something had happened nonsense!
How did removing Saddam compel several British people of Pakistani origin to undertake 7/7?
Old 31 July 2011, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
How did removing Saddam compel several British people of Pakistani origin to undertake 7/7?
Well, they were stupid enough to blow themselves up......

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Whatever the rights and wrongs - and I have ALWAYS said Blair conned us all after making a promise to GWB - the West seems to have made a complete hash of it. And that includes Afghanistan where we are fighting an unwinnable war and Libya where it could be called farcical if it weren't so real.

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As they say f1 prevention is the best cure. Do you think we was wrong to go to war with Germany as it didn't affect us directly?

We all know by now you dont need wmd's to attack another country , my point was not just wmd's.

He was pushing the worlds buttons for some years now just like north Korea.

As much as I hate to see it I think that'll be the next target.
Old 31 July 2011, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
LOL at you claiming I am defending him justy to get the usual rise. It just was not our war to fight. That is all I am saying and all I have ever said!

Oh and this thread... locked by sundown I reckon
Why not? Should the UK walk on by when acts of evil are being committed?
Old 31 July 2011, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Like when we declared war on **** Germany?
Before Germany invaded Poland, in place was an Anglo-Polish military alliance where if Poland's independence was threatened, then the Britain, bound by this this agreement, would lend their support to the Poland to maintain their independence.
Old 31 July 2011, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Ant
As much as I hate to see it I think that'll be the next target.
Why, is there some oil there?
Old 31 July 2011, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Why not? Should the UK walk on by when acts of evil are being committed?
Well that all depends if we are going to be truly altruistic or not? Why Iraq? Why not one of the many other countires where atrocities are regularly commited?
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Why not? Should the UK walk on by when acts of evil are being committed?
Yeah we have to sometimes. Do you fancy taking on Burma or N Korea then?

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Originally Posted by jonc
Before Germany invaded Poland, in place was an Anglo-Polish military alliance where if Poland's independence was threatened, then the Britain, bound by this this agreement, would lend their support to the Poland to maintain their independence.
It's not self-defense though which ever way you look at it.


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