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Old 22 July 2011, 01:51 PM
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Machette weilding scumbag got what he deserved

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-14248097
Old 22 July 2011, 01:53 PM
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Old 22 July 2011, 02:07 PM
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Finally, some sense.
Old 22 July 2011, 02:10 PM
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wonder what the outcome would be if the family of the dead man decide to take a civil lawsuit out against the homeowner.
Old 22 July 2011, 02:11 PM
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hopefully get thrown out of court for the farce it would be.
Old 22 July 2011, 05:47 PM
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I wonder if it really was a Machete or whether he was just day dreaming
Old 22 July 2011, 06:00 PM
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About time too.

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Old 22 July 2011, 06:02 PM
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Nice result, about time that people can defend themselves....not that we should have to.
Old 22 July 2011, 06:21 PM
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Good result, even if it did take CPS a whole month to reach the decision.

Link to original thread:
Burglar stabbed to death whilst attempting to break in
Old 22 July 2011, 06:39 PM
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Fantastic news! I can't remember the last time we had some news that meant the good citizens of this country could sleep safer in their beds & the scum would be made to think twice.

Now let's get started giving the homeowner a 'Good Citizen' medal & cash reward for getting 3 scumbags of the streets(1 permanently) & saving us all fortune.
Old 22 July 2011, 06:48 PM
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Excellent news! When I win the lottery I'm having home security by Samsung

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkAmpMy8liQ
Old 22 July 2011, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by markjmd
Good result, even if it did take CPS a whole month to reach the decision.

Link to original thread:
Burglar stabbed to death whilst attempting to break in

By there was some some Shi*e posted on the original thread. Guess the posters will feel pretty stupid now....

"So, according to the Police, it's alright for a gang to break into someones house, beat the **** out of them, rob them, and maybe rape them."

"Yet it's murder to defend yourself and your loved ones?"

"Looking at that case it's likely plod will charge them with manslaughter."

"We know what will happen - the defenders will go to prison should be like America imho, you step over the threshold of my house & all your rights are gone "

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And who says "Yet it's murder to defend yourself and your loved ones?"
The Police. They have arrested 3 people in the house, on suspicion of Murder."

"You are basically not allowed to make provision to defend yourself."

Seems the moral of the story is wait until you know the full story before posting bollox

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Old 22 July 2011, 08:29 PM
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Thumbs up Good result.

Scum deserved it - end of.
Old 23 July 2011, 05:42 AM
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It does seem like finally there is common sense being applied

The only thing is you have to be careful now about what is reasonable force. I recall the guy who actively chased the burglar and beat him half to death. That's clearly wrong in the eyes of the law, morally is another debate. I think they should release some guidelines that explain broadly what you are and are not allowed to do.
Old 23 July 2011, 11:00 AM
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What would you think might be reasonable force if you were threatened by a knife then?

What if he kept attacking you? Seems like common sense to me.

Les
Old 23 July 2011, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
What would you think might be reasonable force if you were threatened by a knife then?

What if he kept attacking you? Seems like common sense to me.

Les
Oh absolutely Les I was just pointing out it's a different matter if they run off and you chase them and beat them half to death. Yes you'd feel justified in doing this, but it's not self-defense anymore as the attack on you has ceased.
Old 23 July 2011, 11:40 AM
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Common sense, yes.
Now I am not too up on the law in this case, but this is my hypothesis. If the CPS allow it to go to court and the homeowner is found not guilty, the precedent is set for future cases. Therefore it would make it more difficult to prosecute in cases where the details are not as cut and dried, due to the defending barristers using the precedent.
I don't know, are we now casting judgement at CPS level? I think the guy concerned was treated justly though, and the burglar too.
Old 23 July 2011, 11:49 AM
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From what I understand CPS wont prosecute unless there's a 80% or better chance of a successful prosecution
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