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Old 07 June 2011, 11:48 AM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-13632856

I didn't realize it was still like this in the UK.
Old 07 June 2011, 12:06 PM
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More than 3.5m children live below the poverty line in the UK, which has one of the worst child poverty rates in the industrialised world.
Just where do they get these figures from. Oh yeah its the leftie BBC so they just made them up.

How do you define the povert line anyway?

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Old 07 June 2011, 12:07 PM
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Call me a cynic, but I can't help feeling the parents are probably spanking £20 a day on cigarettes and Sky tv.
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Originally Posted by ReallyReallyGoodMeat
Call me a cynic, but I can't help feeling the parents are probably spanking £20 a day on cigarettes and Sky tv.
But surely they are entitled to that

As John Reid said when he was the Health Sec:

What enjoyment does a 21-year-old single mother of three living in a council sink estate get? The only enjoyment sometimes is to have a cigarette." He told anti-smoking activists not to patronise the poor. By all means let them explain the health hazards but if they insist on doing so then allow them to seek a few lungfuls of consolation by sucking deep on a full-tar Rothmans

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The only children who seem to be living in poverty at my sons school seem to be the ones whose parents have to work for a living. No free school meals or crisis loans to clothe their kids for those parents.

Makes you wonder why you bother working for a living when you are rushing to drop your kid off in your 10 year old car when the local scummy Mummy is at the gates in her brand new bmw selling knock off golden virginia to the other parents.
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We've been in a two tier society (well, three) for quite some time
Old 07 June 2011, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by foxarm
The only children who seem to be living in poverty at my sons school seem to be the ones whose parents have to work for a living. No free school meals or crisis loans to clothe their kids for those parents.

Makes you wonder why you bother working for a living when you are rushing to drop your kid off in your 10 year old car when the local scummy Mummy is at the gates in her brand new bmw selling knock off golden virginia to the other parents.
Spot on!
Old 07 June 2011, 12:41 PM
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Kayleigh, Chantelle, Courtney, Paige, you can imagine what their parents are like, what chance have they got?

Snobbery aside, these people aren't poor, they just aren't well off. It's an important difference. Go to India or Africa, see people who literally have nothing, some of them not even clothes.

Stop whining and get on with it

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Old 07 June 2011, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by foxarm
The only children who seem to be living in poverty at my sons school seem to be the ones whose parents have to work for a living. No free school meals or crisis loans to clothe their kids for those parents.

Makes you wonder why you bother working for a living when you are rushing to drop your kid off in your 10 year old car when the local scummy Mummy is at the gates in her brand new bmw selling knock off golden virginia to the other parents.
Seems to be the way of the world here too!
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Originally Posted by Geezer
Kayleigh, Chantelle, Courtney, Paige, you can imagine what their parents are like, what chance have they got?

Snobbery aside, these people aren't poor, they just aren't well off. It's an important difference. Go to India or Africa, see people who literally have nothing, some of them not even clothes.

Stop whining and get on with it

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Exactly!

They are far from poor.

Definition of poor.

adj. poor·er, poor·est

1. Having little or no wealth and few or no possessions.
2. Lacking in a specified resource or quality: an area poor in timber and coal; a diet poor in calcium.
3. Not adequate in quality; inferior: a poor performance.
4.
a. Lacking in value; insufficient: poor wages.
b. Lacking in quantity: poor attendance.
5. Lacking fertility: poor soil.
6. Undernourished; lean.
7. Humble: a poor spirit.
8. Eliciting or deserving pity; pitiable: couldn't rescue the poor fellow.


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Yes but the UK isn't a third world country. In terms of the UK this is "poor".
Old 07 June 2011, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by CREWJ
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-13632856

I didn't realize it was still like this in the UK.
Just think. If we gave our own poor some help rather than sending Billions of pounds to foreign countries, maybe our own children would have a much better life.
Old 07 June 2011, 12:55 PM
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As Jeremy Kyle says ... need to put something on the end of it !

I think we are doing more than enough for these people..... If mum and dad want to put themselves before the children then so be it.
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Yeah, we do have poor people in this country. They're the ones who only go skiing once a year
Old 07 June 2011, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Clarebabes
Yeah, we do have poor people in this country. They're the ones who only go skiing once a year
You certainly read the article then

But yeah with the amount of benefits available to these people these days I can't see where they are spending their money.
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It was like that generally over the country in the years of real austerity and rationing in the years after WW2.

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Old 07 June 2011, 01:17 PM
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God, it goes on and on and on! What people under the poverty line get here in the UK is not bad to pull themselves out of poverty. If they choose not to do so, its their own ******* choice. Even when all the aid gets barred to the foreign countries, such people wouldn't get off their ***** to work, because they will instead get used to being fed for doing sod all! I recently informed a 20 year old white British unemployed dolemeister that he would get 50 squids from the governement if he got up his backside, and joined and electrician's course down the road. He dismissed the idea pointblank, and said: "I have already been on that scheme, and I am not interested." He has no desire to work. All he wants to do is just claim X amount of pocket money via dole, live in his parents' house, and smoke his lungs out. Apparently, he has money to buy dope and booze. There are plenty like him knocking about. ******* joke, man! People only value what comes through bleddy hard work. IMO all benefits should stop with immediate effect, and everyone should be compelled to work, full stop. Even disabled people can do what they can, unless they are bed-ridden. Survival instincts would kick in, then; and everyone will have to move their fat butts to work their way into making a living. That's if they want to live.

Poverty, Ha!

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Originally Posted by CREWJ
You certainly read the article then

But yeah with the amount of benefits available to these people these days I can't see where they are spending their money.
I thought I might get flamed, but I have worked with dole-scrounger teenagers for too long. Some I feel sorry for and almost pray they will sort themselves out, but the benefit culture is so instilled in them, they can't see the benefits of doing something for themselves.
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Originally Posted by Clarebabes
I thought I might get flamed, but I have worked with dole-scrounger teenagers for too long. Some I feel sorry for and almost pray they will sort themselves out, but the benefit culture is so instilled in them, they can't see the benefits of doing something for themselves.
I totally agree with you, not so much to the extent of Turbo as it wouldn't be fair on the children but I still agree.
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Benefits to sterilize the parents ?....
Old 07 June 2011, 01:54 PM
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If you can't afford to feed em, don't bread em!


The exact reason I've had the snip!


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Originally Posted by hutton_d
From ... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13377586 ...

"... The Households Below Average Income statistics, which also cover working-age adults and pensioners, define poverty as children living in homes with 60% less than the median UK income before housing costs. The median is the middle figure in a set of numbers. ..."

Which means that the figure is derived by a formula ensuring that "poverty" will never be removed from society as as the poor get richer so the "median" figure changes upwards but there are always people on less than 60% of this figure. This also means that a) the lefties can always claim more taxes from us to "help eradicate child poverty" and b) "charities" can also claim the same and thus keep their CEOs on 6 figure salaries!

Complete b*llux as usual and another example of politicians and their social engineering crusades ...

Dave
Exactly - if the entire UK population earned between £100,000 and £10,000,000 a year, there would still be a sizeable chunk who were "in poverty" according to "da rulz".

The BBC, "due to the way that it is funded"

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I'm already thinking that even though these people are poor, they could tidy up a bit! Don't have to live in a **** hole, not like they've got else ought to do....
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OK, I'm annoyed now. I've spotted flat screen TVs, acrylic nails and a dog the size of a large man. How much did all that cost?
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...nice street view there. Every house has a sky tv dish!

I don't even have that.
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Houses are sh1te they are living in poverty yet there are satellite dishes on EVERY house
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Kids having to miss meals......dog the size of house must eat pretty regular!
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Pure propaganda the council fixes things for free .
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Originally Posted by ReallyReallyGoodMeat
Call me a cynic, but I can't help feeling the parents are probably spanking £20 a day on cigarettes and Sky tv.

I see this all the time - "We have no money" 20 **** a day each and Sky multiroom with every channel. That has to be 500 quid a month.


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