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Old 22 January 2011, 09:51 PM
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My brother has bought a omega mv6 as part of a project to put the 3 litre engine and everything else t make it run into a Opel kaddet coupe.he is convinced that's it's mega quick due to it been a ex fuzz motor although the engine has done 157k he seems to think it's got apx 240 bhp but whereever I've looked on the web I cant find anything other than they're 215bhp and 0-60 in 8secs does anyone no any different cos although the odd one may be tuned slightly I'm pretty sure there not all as such I maybe wrong and with the size of the car he is putting the engine in am sure it ll be quick but he is looking and drag racing against me in July and I wanna know what I'm up against lol
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When Dumberside Police had Imprezas, they were PPP'd, but had it taken off as the cops that drove them thought it was too much.

TBH, most cop cars are pretty slow due to the amount of extra stuff they carry.
Old 22 January 2011, 09:56 PM
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Don't think so. Too expensive.

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Old 22 January 2011, 10:13 PM
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They may chip them but I don't think they do much more than that hence why they buy the certain models.

Skoda Octavias for one only need a new ECU to push out more power etc, it may even be for some cars a little tweak to the setup.
Old 22 January 2011, 10:16 PM
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Am not a Eco wreck fan myself cos everyone I know who's had one in recent memory something has hone wrong with it well v6's anyway bent valves heads head gaskets etc he is gonna replace the head gaskets cam belt etc but Im not confident they ll with stand the abuse he ll give it anyone else had such problems
Old 22 January 2011, 10:17 PM
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They may be slightly or very basic tuned just to counter the extra weight of the electrics and equipment they have to carry but that's about it. It's very rare that the Police get tuned specials these days.
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I was always told they just specced the cars to suit, basically, most powerful engine with a fairly low spec interior to reduce weight for when they load them up with their gear? Think the only mod may be stiffer suspension. Fella next door to my mums used to work for the police as a mechanic.
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I did hear that Courtney tuned police cars at some point but as far as I no any they did do had there branding on the inlet manifold I've helped strip the car down with my brother today and I've seen nothing special about the spec at all small throttle bodies very standard airbox just nothing engine wise at all the brakes where pretty big but that's bout it just wondering if there was anything internal
Old 22 January 2011, 10:47 PM
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When I was in Bournemouth a few years back i saw a few police cars that were impreza's whether they were tuned i dont know
Old 22 January 2011, 10:50 PM
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Their engines are standard. If the manufacturer offers sports suspension or a model further up the range has bigger brakes, they may be fitted. Other than that, myths take over...
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who needs modified aye

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I think they used to tune the daylights out of them when it needed spanners and knowledge, and occasionally disguise a really quick car as a really slow one. Plod in Larne used to have a 6R4 in a standard Metro body. The engine in the back seat was a bit of a clue, but the local hoods always though their XR3i would be miles quicker..... ha ha.

Now tuning is readily available to all and can cost a fortune, but you can basically buy as much speed as you want. No point in plod using taxpayers money to try and keep up with Mr Criminal (who is also using taxpayers money, but has less accountability,) when Plod have a helicopter......

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Old 22 January 2011, 11:19 PM
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Stronger rear springs for weight, higher spec battery and possibly alternator (usually diesel items) for extra electronics. The reason some of them seem fast is because a good police driver is professionally trained to drive well at speed, whereas Joe Public trains themselves and thinks they drive well.
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the last ex police vectra v6 i worked on had irmscher suspension, a sump guard and was noticeably quicker than other v6 vectras i had driven.
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Originally Posted by alcazar
When Dumberside Police had Imprezas, they were PPP'd, but had it taken off as the cops that drove them thought it was too much.

TBH, most cop cars are pretty slow due to the amount of extra stuff they carry.
But before the classic Scoob they had a Group A Escort Cosworth.

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Originally Posted by hutton_d
Ever seen the Bluesmobile? 'nuff said ......

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It’s got a cop motor, a 440 cubic inch plant. It’s got cop tyres, cop suspension, cop shocks. It’s a model made before Cadalitic Convertors, so it will run good on regular gas. What do you say is it the new Bluesmobile or what?

Fix the cigarette lighter

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Originally Posted by corradoboy
Stronger rear springs for weight, higher spec battery and possibly alternator (usually diesel items) for extra electronics. The reason some of them seem fast is because a good police driver is professionally trained to drive well at speed, whereas Joe Public trains themselves and thinks they drive well.
I thought the Cops did that advanced driving where the mantra is 'only one thing at a time'. So never heel-toe and always two hands on the steering wheel like Grannies?
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I went out for some training with one of their traffic guys and he opened my eyes about vehicle dynamics, balance, planning, anticipation, and just how fast any car, let alone a high performance machine can be in the right hands. Cost me a lunch and a few pints, but gave me a bigger performance hike than spending £000's on the car, and made me much safer too.
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Originally Posted by corradoboy
I went out for some training with one of their traffic guys and he opened my eyes about vehicle dynamics, balance, planning, anticipation, and just how fast any car, let alone a high performance machine can be in the right hands. Cost me a lunch and a few pints, but gave me a bigger performance hike than spending £000's on the car, and made me much safer too.
Can I just say that being able to verbalise hazards, precautions, fwd planning is one skill which impresses but I'm not sure it's more than a party trick. Stuff you do while driving is intuitive; by the time the cognitive part of your brain realises it you already acted.
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It's putting into that brain the ability to recognise what is ahead, hazards, lay of the land, climate factors (micro-climates, time of day/year, prevailing weather etc), potential and observed dangers, knowing the abilities and limitations of the car, tyres, driver, road surface, and especially the brakes and calculating whether you can stop in the current distance you can see to be clear at your current speed, then constantly re-adjusting to compensate for the continuous changes. A 17yo who's just passed their test might well drive down a road and be even quicker into a specific bend, but their lack of experience and training may mean that on the exit of that bend they lose control and make a mess. It's not a trick, as all judgements are based on your experience up to that point, and being able to gain from the knowledge and experience of others to advance your own abilities further and more quickly is the whole point of all education, no matter what the subject.
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Friend of mine buys ex police cars and sells them on, he sort the holes where the equipment has been himself.

He said they are well maintained, serviced and come with 4 new tyres and 12 months MOT.. they also have the top spec seats and brakes, but the bottom everything else .. and no the engines are not modified in anyway.
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http://writeonmotoring.com/features/...st-police-cars
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i must admit i am impressed by some of my local fuzz current company motors sheffield have a unmarked focus st's afew marked up evo 9 and 10s they did have some scoobys although i havent seen them for a while getting paid to drive one of those around all day stopping hoodies in their saxos ..... were do i sign up LOL
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Humberside Police have a 175mph Lexus IS-F, 5 ltr V8 and 0-60 in 4.5 seconds
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As said above, rather than necessarily rely on the 'best'/fastest performance cars out there for persuing (runs the risk of taxpayers kicking off for one thing), the drivers are trained to an extremely high std, and will be able to chase down the average joe (regardless of whether he has a performance car of note). Road conditions/traffic helps here (natural obstacles), and also the plethora of cutting egde in-car police kit, and also fellow police support (radioing ahead + helicopters with heat-seeking cameras, etc., etc...)

The hoods ain't gonna 'win' in 95% of persuits.

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Originally Posted by azz250478
Humberside Police have a 175mph Lexus IS-F, 5 ltr V8 and 0-60 in 4.5 seconds

I'd beat it in the twisties ..
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Think it comes down to the driver TBH.

A good driver in a reasonably quick car will be fast.

A **** driver in a fast car will be slower.

Plus the Police have the advantage of flashing lights and sirens, so cars tend to jump out of their way, so they (police) don't have to brake for traffic, thus making smoother and quicker progress.

It's always easier chasing, than it is to be chased.


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