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Old 01 January 2011, 01:05 AM
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http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/articles.a...ntid=155725875

.... But in the mean time, let us watch 1 million pounds worth of fireworks :



I don't want to sound a kill joy, but if we are that much in debt, was there any need. Can we not just have a big screen of last years display
Old 01 January 2011, 09:24 AM
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Tough time ahead for us maybe. For him? Nah.
Old 01 January 2011, 09:27 AM
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Or just get someone like Virgin to sponsor and run it. Mr Branson is the sort of chap that would like to get his name on something like this Im sure. Let him pay for the fireworks and then charge him an extra £5m to show his name, let him push the button etc.
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I can understand the need to cut government spending, but not why they have to keep giving our cash away to so many others, money which we have to borrow and pay interest on too.

Don't know how much the fireworks cost but it cannot be denied it was an outstanding display. Could not help thinking about all the organisation etc to make it all work.

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Old 01 January 2011, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Could not help thinking about all the organisation etc to make it all work.

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Another reason to 'rent' it out for advertising. Start getting money back into the government rather than them throwing it away because the public will just reimburse through taxes that we have to pay.

...saying that they will probably only fritter it away if they start making money anyway. Should we vote for Lord Sugar to be our next PM?
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Originally Posted by Felix.
http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/articles.a...ntid=155725875

.... But in the mean time, let us watch 1 million pounds worth of fireworks :



I don't want to sound a kill joy, but if we are that much in debt, was there any need. Can we not just have a big screen of last years display
It was £313000 and not £1m.

And bring in millions of pounds of income into London. A good deal I think.

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Old 01 January 2011, 10:51 AM
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Where do all these millions come from?
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Oh, and in case you forgot...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12098981
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Originally Posted by SRSport
Where do all these millions come from?
The GLA obviously.

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Old 01 January 2011, 10:56 AM
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I have a feeling the fireworks maybe a practice run for the olympics?

If the company hosting it did a deal (i.e cost only) in order to gain the olympics contract, then whilst its a huge waste of money up in smoke; its minimising the actual cost and preparing for future events. Its not like they could just let off one single £8.99 rocket off Big Ben then call it a day.


(or is that too much like common sense? ).

Hopefully its just London tax payers that foot the bill. Or is that just wishful thinking

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I'm sure the 250,000 who were there to see it thought it was brilliant VFM.

I'd rather spend £313000 on fireworks than £9billion on the Olympics. Much better value as no Olympics has ever returned a profit.

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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Hopefully its just London tax payers that foot the bill. Or is that just wishful thinking
Why should Londoners pick up the tab, it's a national show piece that nobody wants
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Originally Posted by JonMc
Oh, and in case you forgot...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12098981
Nope. Tanked up Thursday night.

I predict £1.50 by July, getting close to £2.00 by the following year.
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Originally Posted by FlightMan
Tough time ahead for us maybe. For him? Nah.


And whilst they are shafting us I bet they still continue to swindle their expenses.
Old 01 January 2011, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by JonMc
Why should Londoners pick up the tab, it's a national show piece that nobody wants
So the 250000 people who were there just happened to be passing by when the fireworks went off did they

And I doubt if Londoners would mind giving up all of 4p each to fund the show.

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Old 01 January 2011, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by stilover
Nope. Tanked up Thursday night.

I predict £1.50 by July, getting close to £2.00 by the following year.
I think we would have chaos on our hands if that happened.

Aagh, its only News years day and we are all moaning and getting depressed about this coming year already. Anyone expecting a salary rise, new job, investments etc to compensate?
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Originally Posted by Chip
I'm sure the 250,000 who were there to see it thought it was brilliant VFM.

I'd rather spend £313000 on fireworks than £9billion on the Olympics. Much better value as no Olympics has ever returned a profit.

Chip
I was totally against the Olympics, however now Labour are out of power, someone else can't suddenly pull plug after billions have been poured down the drain. So we have to save face and go ahead. And if we are going ahead, then we should do it right.

This is global ***** waving at its best; We have to out-do China which I doubt we'll manage, but at least we have to try.
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Originally Posted by SRSport
I think we would have chaos on our hands if that happened.

Aagh, its only News years day and we are all moaning and getting depressed about this coming year already. Anyone expecting a salary rise, new job, investments etc to compensate?
It was once said that if Petrol went over £1.00 there would be chaos. There was, briefly. Now it's over £1.20 and we just pay it.

Soon it'll be over £1.30 a litre, and steadily rising. We'll moan about it, yes. We'll still pay it though as we need our cars.

And the last Government made it illegal to block fuel refineries. Think the Army would be drafted in to remove any protesters.
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Originally Posted by SRSport
I think we would have chaos on our hands if that happened.
No we wouldn't as we just sit back and take it. It isn't that long ago it was less than a £1 a litre, a supposedly psychological barrier that would see people rioting in the streets if it ever came to pass. It did and no one did anything. Now it's just rolled past £1.25 a litre and still nothing.

What does make me laugh is the repeated carping at Labour by the Tories when they were in opposition over the fuel duty increases as a) it was them that introduced it in the 90s and b) they have done nothing except carry on with it since they got to power despite intimating they would as part of the run up to the election.

As I keep saying, they are all as bad as each other.
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Originally Posted by Chip
It was £313000 and not £1m.

And bring in millions of pounds of income into London. A good deal I think.

Chip
£300K for the fireworks £1.8million for the whole event.

I wonder how good a deal you would think it was had Labour still been in power
Old 01 January 2011, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by stilover
It was once said that if Petrol went over £1.00 there would be chaos. There was, briefly. Now it's over £1.20 and we just pay it.

Soon it'll be over £1.30 a litre, and steadily rising. We'll moan about it, yes. We'll still pay it though as we need our cars.

And the last Government made it illegal to block fuel refineries. Think the Army would be drafted in to remove any protesters.
I said a year ago that once the fuel companies got it over £1 a litre the price would take off andf fly.

Are we REALLY saying that crude oil costs 30% MORE than it did a year ago? Or more, really, as the cost of petrol to us is mostly tax.............
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
£300K for the fireworks £1.8million for the whole event.

I wonder how good a deal you would think it was had Labour still been in power
It wouldnt make any difference. Blair backed the London Eye which is where it has all happened since the millenium and I think it is an excellent event.

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Originally Posted by alcazar
I said a year ago that once the fuel companies got it over £1 a litre the price would take off andf fly.

Are we REALLY saying that crude oil costs 30% MORE than it did a year ago? Or more, really, as the cost of petrol to us is mostly tax.............
I've got to fill up my car today, not looking forward to it at all.
Also, we have oil heating and the profiteering by the oil suppliers during the cold spell has been shocking. I can barely afford to fill up the tank now.
It went up from 40p per litre to 72p. How on earth can they justify that
If the gas/electric comanies tried to double household bills there would be hell on.
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Lee,

Gas and leccy companies are regulated whereas those supplying heating oil are not.

Regulation can sometimes be good for the consumer.

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Originally Posted by alcazar
I said a year ago that once the fuel companies got it over £1 a litre the price would take off andf fly.

Are we REALLY saying that crude oil costs 30% MORE than it did a year ago? Or more, really, as the cost of petrol to us is mostly tax.............
I wouldn't worry about it. Remember the Tories promised to set a price on a litre then vary fuel duty to keep it there? I'm sure they follow through on that manifesto commitment.

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Originally Posted by Chip
Lee,

Gas and leccy companies are regulated whereas those supplying heating oil are not.

Regulation can sometimes be good for the consumer.

Chip
Thanks Chip.
I know, but it's about time it was regulated. It's getting very tiresome getting shafted everytime the weather takes a turn for the worse.
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bad times ahead for us yes THEM NO because they dont pay for petrol road tax electric gas council tax and all the other things we have to pay for and until that changes NOTHING will change ,think about it if you got over 100k a year and had nothing to pay out for would you give a toss about the common people PROBABLY NOT
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£1m isn't even loose change to the Govt, they'll have spent more than that on their Xmas lunch FFS.

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Originally Posted by JonMc
Oh, and in case you forgot...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12098981
Why aren't the lorry drivers kicking off like they used to?

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Originally Posted by Lee247
If the gas/electric comanies tried to double household bills there would be hell on.
Over the last few years they virtually have though.

20% rise here, 10% rise there. 2% lower here, then another 10% rise there.

They have gone up. Just over a few years you don't notice it as much.


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