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Old 10 December 2010, 08:35 AM
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Question Wikileaks DDOS attacks

....suporters targeting amazon, paypal etc.

Who supports this?
Old 10 December 2010, 08:37 AM
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A bit pointless.
Old 10 December 2010, 08:39 AM
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It's all part of a wider plan to turn the public away from supporting wikileaks..... you know the "rapist" that ruined "Christmas" by blocking online payment sites....
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
....suporters targeting amazon, paypal etc.

Who supports this?
Not me - waste of time and damn right nuisance
Old 10 December 2010, 08:57 AM
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It's basically blackmail.
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Would be better ddosing The US senate.
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
It's all part of a wider plan to turn the public away from supporting wikileaks..... you know the "rapist" that ruined "Christmas" by blocking online payment sites....
Good point, hadn't thought of that. It works aswell if its true, as I'd quite happily sign up to something that counters these attacks.
Old 10 December 2010, 10:41 AM
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It gets my vote. If the US and its cohorts are going to fit up someone for something he probably hasn't done so as to stop him from uncovering their nasty little home truths then they have to expect some reprisals and what better way in the digital age than DDOS attacks on the world of Internet retail.

I like their style
Old 10 December 2010, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
It gets my vote. If the US and its cohorts are going to fit up someone for something he probably hasn't done so as to stop him from uncovering their nasty little home truths then they have to expect some reprisals and what better way in the digital age than DDOS attacks on the world of Internet retail.

I like their style
Sure but who appointed these people to dispense justice, to 'punish'?

...and aren't the corporations in question within their rights to not provide support for wikileaks? Paypal don't have an obligation to provide services to everyone.
Old 10 December 2010, 02:24 PM
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I'm all for it. Companies that are bowing down to political pressure are contributing to the government's agenda and cannot be trusted.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...s-wicked.shtml

Why would anyone want to deal with a company that thinks the KKK is ok, but Wikileaks not?
Old 10 December 2010, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ReallyReallyGoodMeat
I'm all for it. Companies that are bowing down to political pressure are contributing to the government's agenda and cannot be trusted.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...s-wicked.shtml

Why would anyone want to deal with a company that thinks the KKK is ok, but Wikileaks not?
Oh I don't know, I can think of a couple of individuals on here for which that would be an endorsement
Old 10 December 2010, 03:14 PM
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Hasn't really bothered me to be honest, as they haven't targeted anything I need to use yet! Hard to pretend to care otherwise!

But in my opinion these companies can do what they like with regards to providing services... it's their company. The only thing that would p*ss me off is if the governments actually forced them to do stop providing the service to someone.

If these companies are caving in to political pressure and people don't like it, then justice would best be served by never using them again to buy anything. If what they're doing offends so many people then they will soon change their tune as they won't have a business.
Old 10 December 2010, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ReallyReallyGoodMeat
I'm all for it. Companies that are bowing down to political pressure are contributing to the government's agenda and cannot be trusted.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...s-wicked.shtml

Why would anyone want to deal with a company that thinks the KKK is ok, but Wikileaks not?
Wikileaks STOLE the information.

In principle I like some of the stuff wikileaks etc can do by lifting the veil of secrecy on public life but otoh it CLEARLY has an anti-American agenda. FFS you have Russian, Hugo Chavez etc praising wikileaks! Euro liberals in solidarity with a mafia state and a leftist-demagogue and dictator. Crazy and disgusting!

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Good luck to em! At least some peeps are motivated enough to do something, instead of bitchin an making excuses to do nothing. If only the rest of society could be bothered.I aint worried about Amazon losing customers.
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Wikileaks STOLE the information.
are you saying wikileaks stole the information from the person who stole (downloaded) it in the first place.

or are you talking rubbish
Old 10 December 2010, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by --------
Good luck to em! At least some peeps are motivated enough to do something, instead of bitchin an making excuses to do nothing. If only the rest of society could be bothered.I aint worried about Amazon losing customers.
Sounds like a manifesto/apology for terrorism.
Old 10 December 2010, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
are you saying wikileaks stole the information from the person who stole (downloaded) it in the first place.

or are you talking rubbish
Option "B" ....... again
Old 10 December 2010, 06:31 PM
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Good quality article, typical of Mr C. Hitchens.

http://www.slate.com/id/2276857/
Old 10 December 2010, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Wikileaks STOLE the information.
I don't believe you are this obtuse.

Everyone knows they did not steal the information - there are no criminal proceeding against WikiLeaks, and unless governments start passing new 'emergency' laws that make it illegal to disclose information they don't like, they wont be. In which case we really are f*****d. Instead what we are seeing are governments trying to bend the rules as much as possible.
Old 10 December 2010, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Wikileaks STOLE the information.
Old 10 December 2010, 08:05 PM
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Wikileaks and all of its posts are controlled by the US government anyway, stuff they cant admit publicly that will come out anyway, stuff they are dying to tell the world, stuff they want to plant and misinformation, I think its fairly obvious, even the seemingly cack handed "attempts" to railroad the process, the rape charges etc, if the guy was really releasing stuff they didn't want in the public domain do you really think he would still be around given the CIA exist ? good god it is so obvious.
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Sounds like a manifesto/apology for terrorism.
You wanna call it terrorism thats up to you,guess you would side with the ****'s when it comes to resistance.....unless your playin devils advocate?
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Originally Posted by --------
You wanna call it terrorism thats up to you,guess you would side with the ****'s when it comes to resistance.....unless your playin devils advocate?
You'd make a good **** yourself; extolling the virtues of anti-democratic political actions.
Old 10 December 2010, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by --------
You wanna call it terrorism thats up to you,guess you would side with the ****'s when it comes to resistance.....unless your playin devils advocate?
**** me the game's barely started and you're out. Godwin's.
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Wikileaks is CLEARLY anti American..... good

Maybe if America didn't go around poking its nose into other countries' business and starting illegal wars it wouldn't have so many opponents!

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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Wikileaks is CLEARLY anti American..... good

Maybe if America didn't go around poking its nose into other countries' business and starting illegal wars it wouldn't have so many opponents!
America is a fairly benign hegemony in historical terms. It's not perfect but it could be many times worse, we owe the relative global peace and economic success to it in many ways. Imagine if it had been the ***** or Communists instead? Could easily have been.

I'm a realist about it.

I really distrust anti-americanists, too many political opportunists use it as a flag to rally around while they push their own anti-democratic and anti-liberal politics, from Chavez, to Chinese, to Islamists.

They are much worse but pretend they are better; the worse hypocrites.

What is the alternative? There will always be a hegemon.

We'd probably be under **** rule right now if America had not 'poked it's nose into other countries business'.
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
America is a fairly benign hegemony in historical terms. It's not perfect but it could be many times worse, we owe the relative global peace and economic success to it in many ways. Imagine if it had been the ***** or Communists instead? Could easily have been.

I'm a realist about it.

I really distrust anti-americanists, too many political opportunists use it as a flag to rally around while they push their own anti-democratic and anti-liberal politics, from Chavez, to Chinese, to Islamists.

They are much worse but pretend they are better; the worse hypocrites.

What is the alternative? There will always be a hegemon.

We'd probably be under **** rule right now if America had not 'poked it's nose into other countries business'.
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
America is a fairly benign hegemony in historical terms. It's not perfect but it could be many times worse, we owe the relative global peace and economic success to it in many ways. Imagine if it had been the ***** or Communists instead? Could easily have been.

I'm a realist about it.

I really distrust anti-americanists, too many political opportunists use it as a flag to rally around while they push their own anti-democratic and anti-liberal politics, from Chavez, to Chinese, to Islamists.

They are much worse but pretend they are better; the worse hypocrites.

What is the alternative? There will always be a hegemon.

We'd probably be under **** rule right now if America had not 'poked it's nose into other countries business'.

Fvck me Batman, what is happening around here

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He's right, though, and he doesn't have to post teenage graphics to make his point.
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