Are you 'Middle England' then?
07 October 2010, 08:13 AM
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Are you 'Middle England' then?
I'm sure I heard one MP or it might even have been the Chancellor talking about Middle England being the £40-£50k earners(re child benefit debacle)
Well, 3x£50k would get you a flat around here
I always imagined Middle England as being Surrey/Kent,large detatched houses and probably an income more like £150k
In theory I'm a wealthy Middle Englander then with my 5 year old Nissan and 3 bed semi
Well, 3x£50k would get you a flat around here
I always imagined Middle England as being Surrey/Kent,large detatched houses and probably an income more like £150k
In theory I'm a wealthy Middle Englander then with my 5 year old Nissan and 3 bed semi
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07 October 2010, 11:04 AM
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I'm sure I heard one MP or it might even have been the Chancellor talking about Middle England being the £40-£50k earners(re child benefit debacle)
Well, 3x£50k would get you a flat around here
I always imagined Middle England as being Surrey/Kent,large detatched houses and probably an income more like £150k
In theory I'm a wealthy Middle Englander then with my 5 year old Nissan and 3 bed semi
Well, 3x£50k would get you a flat around here
I always imagined Middle England as being Surrey/Kent,large detatched houses and probably an income more like £150k
In theory I'm a wealthy Middle Englander then with my 5 year old Nissan and 3 bed semi
You must be joking, it has some of the biggest **** holes in the country although I wont mention them as no doubt there are people on here who live there who will be offended/disagree plus it's got to be the most over populated/congested part of the country. I 'd say the only 2 well off large towns in terms of reputation are Sevenoaks and Tunbridge Wells, the rest forget it 
I've lived in Kent for all but the first 4 years of my life and when ever I visit else where outside of the South East corner i'm amazed by the amount of space, vast countryside and cheaper property! Kent is supposed to be the Garden of England, i'd say it's now a garden that's been built over.
Allegedly i'm a middle englander too but being the sole earner and 4 kids in total, 1 of which I pay maintenance for I appear to be less flush on the cash front than the local council dwellers who have new cars on their front garden, 50" tvs glaring out their front rooms, always down the pub etc.
I often think with having 4 kids i'd be better off as a council dweller than working and being skint at the end of every month
Alternatively I need to get the hell out of the South East corner!
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07 October 2010, 11:40 AM
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He is funny though - can you imagine a Daily Mail reader sticking up for open borders, being pro-European, pro-capitalist, pro-banking, pro-liberalisation, etc, etc!!
Of course now he will just say he was being ironic - but he is so far off the mark it is incredible. Like lots of his other observations.
Of course now he will just say he was being ironic - but he is so far off the mark it is incredible. Like lots of his other observations.
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True middle England is embodied by the Daily Mail perspective...
...enough money to think they are better than the working classes...
...but not enough money to have the obvious signs of consumption of either the working classes or the truly wealthy...
...and so they have to blame someone or something, banks, immigrants, Labour, pension decline, interest rates, house prices, you name it as it is anyone else's responsibility that they cannot afford to live in the manner they think they should deserve.
And it is not really about the level of earning, it is a state of mind.
...enough money to think they are better than the working classes...
...but not enough money to have the obvious signs of consumption of either the working classes or the truly wealthy...
...and so they have to blame someone or something, banks, immigrants, Labour, pension decline, interest rates, house prices, you name it as it is anyone else's responsibility that they cannot afford to live in the manner they think they should deserve.
And it is not really about the level of earning, it is a state of mind.
07 October 2010, 11:51 AM
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07 October 2010, 12:01 PM
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He is funny though - can you imagine a Daily Mail reader sticking up for open borders, being pro-European, pro-capitalist, pro-banking, pro-liberalisation, etc, etc!!
Of course now he will just say he was being ironic - but he is so far off the mark it is incredible. Like lots of his other observations.
Of course now he will just say he was being ironic - but he is so far off the mark it is incredible. Like lots of his other observations.
07 October 2010, 12:02 PM
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Ah but many upper class come from working class backgrounds, Lord Sugar being one of them.
The class thing makes me chuckle anyway as how is it defined? Gross income? Disposable income? How you live your life, morally etc?
Those 3 questions would leave me with answers putting me in different so called classes so there is no such thing as class.
The class thing makes me chuckle anyway as how is it defined? Gross income? Disposable income? How you live your life, morally etc?
Those 3 questions would leave me with answers putting me in different so called classes so there is no such thing as class.
07 October 2010, 12:06 PM
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The blue rinses and old Colonels are dying out, replaced by a new liberal-left orthodoxy with plenty of new money...true bourgeois making money from Capitalism and the market etc.
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I think we should turn our backs on most newspapers anyway, there's barely any news in them these days. They are 90% opinion 10% news.
In fact there's less opinion and more news on here, and believe me that's saying something
In fact there's less opinion and more news on here, and believe me that's saying something
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Ah but many upper class come from working class backgrounds, Lord Sugar being one of them.
The class thing makes me chuckle anyway as how is it defined? Gross income? Disposable income? How you live your life, morally etc?
Those 3 questions would leave me with answers putting me in different so called classes so there is no such thing as class.
The class thing makes me chuckle anyway as how is it defined? Gross income? Disposable income? How you live your life, morally etc?
Those 3 questions would leave me with answers putting me in different so called classes so there is no such thing as class.
He's a monied bourgeois, a newly rich one at that.
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07 October 2010, 01:06 PM
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I suppose we must be, own house in Cheshire, decent wage, three kids at private school (paid for by the inlaws) and now getting spanked even more because obviously being a PAYE wage slave, having worked hard to get to a decent salary, not claiming for everything, not working for cash I am therefore liable for being spanked until there is nothing left to give.
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I suppose we must be, own house in Cheshire, decent wage, three kids at private school (paid for by the inlaws) and now getting spanked even more because obviously being a PAYE wage slave, having worked hard to get to a decent salary, not claiming for everything, not working for cash I am therefore liable for being spanked until there is nothing left to give.
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I'm sure I heard one MP or it might even have been the Chancellor talking about Middle England being the £40-£50k earners(re child benefit debacle)
Well, 3x£50k would get you a flat around here
I always imagined Middle England as being Surrey/Kent,large detatched houses and probably an income more like £150k
In theory I'm a wealthy Middle Englander then with my 5 year old Nissan and 3 bed semi
Well, 3x£50k would get you a flat around here
I always imagined Middle England as being Surrey/Kent,large detatched houses and probably an income more like £150k
In theory I'm a wealthy Middle Englander then with my 5 year old Nissan and 3 bed semi
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