howellsy42

my mum and dad have a 7 acre field it has a stable block on it with four horses 5 sheep 20 odd chickens and three geese. over these last few weeks we have been having more and more stuff going walk about - nothing big just little stuff like a cordless drill set ,batteries off tractors and two radiators off two off roading 4x4s. last year someone even stole some rare breed chickens and the ride on lawn mower but we got that back !!

now ive had enough. the main problem is there is no mains power there is just a petrol generator but that cant be run 24/7 and mum and dad live about 500 metres across a small country lane and down a bit of road ive just ordered 5 alarm mines they have a "blank" shot gun cartridge in them and a trip wire so im going to put them in a few places and im sure if they go off at night dad should hear them. i was trying to find a 12v cctv kit that could run off a leisure battery but not really sure if that would work ?!?!? the next thing i thought was people just jump over the gate we have a spare electric fence unit i was thinking of running a thin wire on the inside of the gate so when you go to climb and jump over it your hand will hit the wire and give you a bit of a shock. now every thing i do needs to stay within the law else id be happy to sit up there in a gilly suit and shoot what ever **** hole is doing this. all ideas welcome!

alcazar

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It'll be gyppos. Got any near you? They'd steal the steam off a turd.

Can you not let the geese out?

Lee247

A friend of mine put a load of carpet gripper on his side of his fence, right near the top. Any hands trying to haul themselves up his fence got a nasty surprise

jods

Carpet Gripper smeared with dog **** would be even better

Lee247

eeeewwwwww

howellsy42

ive been trying to get mum to leave the geese out but she doesnt want the fox to have them !! i think it just local scum noising around but i would of thought it was pikeys that had the battrys and radiators for scrap but they would of been worth next to bugger all

PaulC72

Why do I think that if someone gets hurt in anyway this is going to come back and bit you on the ****? you should know by now the crooks can do what they like (and so can the pikeys) and if you try to stop them you will be in trouble for hurting them while on your property...

sucks don't it.


I myself would go for the gilly suit and shotgun...

howellsy42

i would love to take two weeks off work and sit up there in a gilly suit with a night scope and the 22 rifle but mum says im not allowed some thing to do with the police wont like it but i did try to convince her saying that my digger is only just up road no one sees no one knows lol

Jamie

Few be warned posters of her on the fence should be enough.

stilover

A word of warning if it is Gypo's stealing.

Many years ago, in the Village I grew up in. Our local farmer had a bit of bother with some Gypsies stealing from his farm. He had 2 son's who were understandably wanting to protect their fathers property. Anyway, I don't know what happened exactly, but they caught 1 or 2 of them stealing one night. 1 or 2 punches were thrown and said thieves were chased off. Perfectly within their rights, as they were having people steal their property.

The farmer and his sons thought that would be the end of it now. How wrong they were.

A week later their stables containing their show jumping horses was set alight. Stables and horses were destroyed.

Upset the Gypsies at your own risk. Chase them off by all means, but go any further and await the consequences.

Not saying it will happen, but I've seen first hand what they will do to get their own back.

The Dogs B******s

Godspeed Brakes

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if you have a digger , dig a few deep holes and cover them so they are unseen , soon catch the bar stewards , or some bear traps spread around the field in the evenings

Gregsti01

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Get yourselves 2/3 German shepherds let them roam pikeys hate dogs,they might take one down but 2/3 not likely.Put up notices shepherd patrolling covers your ****.Coiled razer wire in insulators then feed with electric fencer high output will deter all vermin,dont forget to put up signs

mamoon2

Don't day like dags den?

Gregsti01

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Dogs dont listen to crap they chew then ask questions after,a friend years age had similar problem the pikeys were caught they found where they came from then were stripped sprayed with shults underseal and dropped several miles from home naked,this worked until the next batch of scum came but shooting them with 12 bore loaded with black pepper corn worked a treat,pikeys only know pain and fear

David_Dickson

Dont be daft with traps and spikes and ****e like that - at best it will land you in serious legal bother, at worst, it will endanger yourself and your family. As mentioned above, a pissed off pikey is not something to be shrugged off lightly - scum will ALWAYS be willing to go further than a law-abiding person if it comes to a tit-for-tat battle. Real pikies wont think twice about turning up en-mass and dishing out a proper beating, or setting property on fire etc.
Your best bets as a deterrant are light and noise - no thief likes to be brightly lit while working, and loud noises atracting attention help a lot too. You can now get solar-powered montion sensitive security floodlights. They are not fantastic though, but a bit of ingenuity with a soldering iron will see them wired up to a leisure battery and there are plenty of 12v sounders that could be triggered at the same time to make a racket if you wish.

David_Dickson

Dont be daft with traps and spikes and ****e like that - at best it will land you in serious legal bother, at worst, it will endanger yourself and your family. As mentioned above, a pissed off pikey is not something to be shrugged off lightly - scum will ALWAYS be willing to go further than a law-abiding person if it comes to a tit-for-tat battle. Real pikies wont think twice about turning up en-mass and dishing out a proper beating, or setting property on fire etc.
Your best bets as a deterrant are light and noise - no thief likes to be brightly lit while working, and loud noises atracting attention help a lot too. You can now get solar-powered montion sensitive security floodlights. They are not fantastic though, but a bit of ingenuity with a soldering iron will see them wired up to a leisure battery and there are plenty of 12v sounders that could be triggered at the same time to make a racket if you wish.

Gregsti01

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Like all vermin find where they are based then you can control the problem

Gregsti01

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The biggest mistake here was not finding where they came from,you have to take the crap back to them BIG TIME, a little unleaded works a treat, like dont f@@k with me,most of us think the law will protect us bulsh't,to much paper work.A mans home is his castle or should be,the law should be on the side of the them not some f@@kin invader

David_Dickson

calm yourself Rambo.
here in the real world, things don't really work like that.

pslewis

As above post - a few of these left roaming will sort things for you - put warning signs up, shame the theiving pikies can't read ....

http://www.advice.com/images/uploade...e32ec006e68597

stilover

I own a couple Shotguns. If anyone enters my property then I will use them.

I would not however go Pikey hunting on Farmland. Land and home are different.

Go after them on your land with a shotgun, and they will retort. As said above, anything a (by and large) law abiding citizen will do, scum will always do harder, and in greater numbers.

There are area's of my town where (and I know this for a fact) that people have been beaten within a inch of their lives over trivial ****, that involved p!ssing off the pikeys.

One of my Girlfriends mates had his head repeatedly hit with a hammer all over a mobile phone. He slurs, can't walk straight and has a brain tumour that can't be operated on. This happened 7 years ago. He ain't expected to remember the 10th anniversary. Did this really happen? Yes, as she lived next door to him, heard his screaming and threw herself in between him and the pikeys. Saved his life.

howellsy42

mum and dad already have two germany shepards one can out run the quad bike its quite impressive but they cant live up there as they are pets im going to look at buying some 12v flood lights and wire them up to some car batterys all so the alarm mines should scare the crap out of any one up to no good

Leslie

Its a sign of the times that informing the coppers has not been mentioned.

I think it is shameful that we can no longer rely on them to defend us from crime.

Les

Fat Boy

You know it makes sense

Leslie

Trouble is, we have to be so careful these days not to deny the would be criminals their human rights!

I remember a while ago, there was an elderly lady who was plagued endlessly by thugs trying to break into her house. When she put up a barbed wire fence to make it more difficult for them and in an attempt to defend herself, she was ordered by the authorities to remove it in case the criminals got an injury while trying to break into her house!

How can anyone justify a statement like that?

Les

GlesgaKiss

I agree, this is always the problem.

To the OP - you have the right to defend your property, and there's no set 'right' way of doing it, as a few posters in this thread would have you believe. What Stilover says is true, there are consequences sometimes from these things, so it's really up to the individual how they want to tackle things. But making it as unattractive as possible to steal from your property (who would bother with so much hastle when there are other farms around?) has to be done.


Really, stuff like razor wire and high fences is what you want. That way the people it hurts have no excuse for hurting themselves, but where you have a field with low fences that kids would normally climb while out for a walk, etc, it's obviously not really possible. But just protect stuff with all the usual security and they will soon get bored. If you have guns, you don't need to shoot anyone, you just need to be seen by them checking your land out with a gun in your hand to send them the message... again that it's just more hastle than it's worth. So the best thing you can do is be active. Try and get some security equipment that'll let you know they're there, and make sure they know you're on to them.

jonc

Try this, it's non lethal.
http://www.paintballsentry.com/

The Zohan

They'd nick it - i would!

belliott69

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i am friends with some of the pikey community as my dad was originally married to one and became friends with a load, the only thing that scares a pikey is geese. they make too much noise and won't leave you alone so its a shame that you can't leave them out.

i think you;'ve done the best thing with the noise cartridges as any loud noise will scare them off and hopefull alert someone nearby, other than that there is nothing you can do. plus gregsti, i guess you haven't met many pikeys, you'd be lucky to make it into a site with any weapons before they do you over yourself, why do you think that the police in our area won't even entertain entering the sites, if its a stolen car there following and it turns into our local site they just carry on and leave them too it.