View Poll Results: has this affected you in any way
Underpaid and owe HMRC through not fault of my own
5
18.52%
Overpaid and getting a wedge back
4
14.81%
Lifestyle unemployed and living off of the taxpayer so 'whatever!'
2
7.41%
Not affected me
14
51.85%
Other
2
7.41%
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HMRC Overpayments and Underpayments
07 September 2010, 07:57 AM
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HMRC Overpayments and Underpayments
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11186397
Six million people in UK have overpaid or underpaid tax
David Gauke, Exchequer Secretary to the Treasury, said those who had underpaid would be given time to pay
Nearly six million people in the UK have paid the wrong amount of tax.
About £2bn was underpaid via the Pay as You Earn (PAYE) system in the past two years, with about 1.4 million people owing an average of £1,500 each.
But £1.8bn has also been overpaid and some 4.3 million people will get a rebate because they have paid too much.
Treasury minister David Gauke said that in the current financial climate, the government was not in a position to "just wave goodbye" to the money owed.
He said the government had inherited the problem and the PAYE system - which was created in the 1940s - was struggling to cope with modern working patterns.
So are you an over or under then
Six million people in UK have overpaid or underpaid tax
David Gauke, Exchequer Secretary to the Treasury, said those who had underpaid would be given time to pay
Nearly six million people in the UK have paid the wrong amount of tax.
About £2bn was underpaid via the Pay as You Earn (PAYE) system in the past two years, with about 1.4 million people owing an average of £1,500 each.
But £1.8bn has also been overpaid and some 4.3 million people will get a rebate because they have paid too much.
Treasury minister David Gauke said that in the current financial climate, the government was not in a position to "just wave goodbye" to the money owed.
He said the government had inherited the problem and the PAYE system - which was created in the 1940s - was struggling to cope with modern working patterns.
So are you an over or under then
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07 September 2010, 08:00 AM
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I'll wager any under/over-payment that I'll be in the underpayment minority!
That's called hedging your bets I think.
That's called hedging your bets I think.
07 September 2010, 09:01 AM
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I find it absolutely fecking unbelievable that there wasn't a decent manual check system in place that flagged up that the new computer was screwing up. Are people that stupid that they think the software is always right?
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07 September 2010, 09:08 AM
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07 September 2010, 09:17 AM
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Not sure they know where I live at the moment, had nothing from them since moving, don't see why I should have to tell them as I'd have thought the government should know where I'm living
Unless of course they owe me money (unlikely)
Think I'll go through the process of doing a tax return for last year just to make sure it all roughly stacks up.
Unless of course they owe me money (unlikely)
Think I'll go through the process of doing a tax return for last year just to make sure it all roughly stacks up.
07 September 2010, 10:13 AM
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Apparently under law there is no requirement to pay them back as it is their fault. See here:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...s-mistake.html
And here:
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/epmanual/ep6601.htm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...s-mistake.html
And here:
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/epmanual/ep6601.htm
07 September 2010, 10:15 AM
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Will people like me who just have one job and let the employer sort it out be affected by this do you think? Or is it more likely going to be those with more than one job, company cars etc....?
07 September 2010, 01:14 PM
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A two month wait is not on at all!!
so 2 written requests later and still nothing.
07 September 2010, 03:54 PM
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This doesn't surprise me, one bit. They really are a brainless lot.
My Mum has been overpaying tax on her meagre pension for the last 6 years. One of the pension payers has been using BR instead of the issued tax code. She only mentioned it to me in May.
I have spoken to them 3 times over the last few months. They have agreed she has overpaid by a substantial amount, but she still has not received the money.
My Mum has been overpaying tax on her meagre pension for the last 6 years. One of the pension payers has been using BR instead of the issued tax code. She only mentioned it to me in May.
I have spoken to them 3 times over the last few months. They have agreed she has overpaid by a substantial amount, but she still has not received the money.
07 September 2010, 04:18 PM
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This doesn't surprise me, one bit. They really are a brainless lot.
My Mum has been overpaying tax on her meagre pension for the last 6 years. One of the pension payers has been using BR instead of the issued tax code. She only mentioned it to me in May.
I have spoken to them 3 times over the last few months. They have agreed she has overpaid by a substantial amount, but she still has not received the money.
My Mum has been overpaying tax on her meagre pension for the last 6 years. One of the pension payers has been using BR instead of the issued tax code. She only mentioned it to me in May.
I have spoken to them 3 times over the last few months. They have agreed she has overpaid by a substantial amount, but she still has not received the money.
07 September 2010, 05:08 PM
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I only just got my tax code sorted, I was on BR for a year, got a nice wedge back which bought my turbo and a few other bits and bobs
07 September 2010, 05:12 PM
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This doesn't surprise me, one bit. They really are a brainless lot.
My Mum has been overpaying tax on her meagre pension for the last 6 years. One of the pension payers has been using BR instead of the issued tax code. She only mentioned it to me in May.
I have spoken to them 3 times over the last few months. They have agreed she has overpaid by a substantial amount, but she still has not received the money.
My Mum has been overpaying tax on her meagre pension for the last 6 years. One of the pension payers has been using BR instead of the issued tax code. She only mentioned it to me in May.
I have spoken to them 3 times over the last few months. They have agreed she has overpaid by a substantial amount, but she still has not received the money.
If I'm wrong sorry but similar happened to current Mrs Lock
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07 September 2010, 05:31 PM
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They are applying the new code now and it has back dated to the start of this tax year. So that was sorted swiftly.
It's the 6 years prior that she needs to get the money for, and that can only come from the IR. Think I will chase them up again on Thursday, when I go for my weekly cuppa and chinwag
07 September 2010, 06:45 PM
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The report said it would primarily affect people who have moved employment over the last couple of years so having been with my employer for the last 18 I'm expecting(hoping) to be unaffected
07 September 2010, 07:26 PM
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Odds on, I'll be in the underpaid section by a massive amount 
Don't see how given i'm PAYE, and its THEIR job to make sure everything is correct!!!
Hang on though, who was in charge of the treasury a few years ago, and
made systems so complex people struggled to understand them
Class action anyone??
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Don't see how given i'm PAYE, and its THEIR job to make sure everything is correct!!!
Hang on though, who was in charge of the treasury a few years ago, and
made systems so complex people struggled to understand them
Class action anyone??
Mart
07 September 2010, 08:32 PM
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I still owe them around 3k to be honest, so it makes no difference to me, its just a different number, on the end of another number, that i cant afford to pay them at the moment
10 September 2010, 01:29 AM
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Hi David,
They are applying the new code now and it has back dated to the start of this tax year. So that was sorted swiftly.
It's the 6 years prior that she needs to get the money for, and that can only come from the IR. Think I will chase them up again on Thursday, when I go for my weekly cuppa and chinwag
They are applying the new code now and it has back dated to the start of this tax year. So that was sorted swiftly.
It's the 6 years prior that she needs to get the money for, and that can only come from the IR. Think I will chase them up again on Thursday, when I go for my weekly cuppa and chinwag
10 September 2010, 01:34 AM
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Did you call them and tell them? They are usually fairly reasonable when it comes to you paying them if you are prepared to make an effort. 80 quid a month for three years maybe?????? If you don't call them they will have you in court by the end of November, at which point you can pay up in 28 days or have them go through your finances to decided how much you can afford. Given that they are basically 100% incompetent, letting them make a decision might be a bad idea
10 September 2010, 12:13 PM
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Seems like it's another case of inconsistency in the way they deal with things, depending on what office you talk to