Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few
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Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few
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All credit to Churchill, a fantastic, if extroverted, wartime leader.
'The few' - they did us proud.
But lest we forget, there were more bomber crews killed than fighter pilots and they never received the same recognition - http://www.rafbombercommand.com/memorialfund/
'The few' - they did us proud.
But lest we forget, there were more bomber crews killed than fighter pilots and they never received the same recognition - http://www.rafbombercommand.com/memorialfund/
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Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward I've climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
of sun-split clouds, -- and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed of -- wheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence. Hov'ring there,
I've chased the shouting wind along, and flung
My eager craft through footless halls of air ....
Up, up the long, delirious, burning blue
I've topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace
Where never lark nor ever eagle flew --
And, while with silent lifting mind I've trod
The high untrespassed sanctity of space,
Put out my hand, and touched the face of God.
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward I've climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
of sun-split clouds, -- and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed of -- wheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence. Hov'ring there,
I've chased the shouting wind along, and flung
My eager craft through footless halls of air ....
Up, up the long, delirious, burning blue
I've topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace
Where never lark nor ever eagle flew --
And, while with silent lifting mind I've trod
The high untrespassed sanctity of space,
Put out my hand, and touched the face of God.
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Never since English ships went out
To singe the beard of Spain,
Or English sea-dogs hunted death
Along the Spanish Main,
Never since Drake and Raleigh won
Our freedom of the seas,
Have sons of Britain dared and done
More valiantly than these.
Whether at midnight or at noon,
Through mist or open sky,
Eagles of freedom, all our hearts
Are up with you on high;
While Britain's mighty ghosts look down
From realms beyond the sun
And whisper, as their record pales,
Their breathless, deep, Well Done!
To singe the beard of Spain,
Or English sea-dogs hunted death
Along the Spanish Main,
Never since Drake and Raleigh won
Our freedom of the seas,
Have sons of Britain dared and done
More valiantly than these.
Whether at midnight or at noon,
Through mist or open sky,
Eagles of freedom, all our hearts
Are up with you on high;
While Britain's mighty ghosts look down
From realms beyond the sun
And whisper, as their record pales,
Their breathless, deep, Well Done!
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I hope it's not inappropriate to report the comment of one of the remaining vets which I heard on the radio, a young 92 year old I think
He said Churchill's words had inspired the lads but when they heard the words "was so much owed by so many " they thought he was referring to their mess bill
dl
He said Churchill's words had inspired the lads but when they heard the words "was so much owed by so many " they thought he was referring to their mess bill
dl
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Well said Pete. I hope in years to come that people will still realise what a debt we owe to all those who defended us during those wars. Not forgetting those who were from the Commonwealth countries and also fought and gave their lives to save this country.
It was a time of honour and self sacrifice and we still have that spirit going on in Afghanistan. The spirit is beyond reproach but I am not so sure about the war in question.
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It was a time of honour and self sacrifice and we still have that spirit going on in Afghanistan. The spirit is beyond reproach but I am not so sure about the war in question.
Les
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Makes me fell very proud indeed, my uncle Den bless his cotton socks was a rear gunner in a halifax he got shot down laying mines after 48hours flying time (which was a lot! average was 24hours) I can only imagine what went through his head sat freezing his a** of in the back being shot at!
R.I.P Dennnis!
R.I.P Dennnis!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsUdbzQCm_Y
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Not everyone is grateful....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/l...re/7082401.stm
.....my Dad did all the engineering works for the memorial.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/l...re/7082401.stm
.....my Dad did all the engineering works for the memorial.
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He campaigned hard for recognition of the bomber crews and died a couple of months before the announcement that the memorial was to be built
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Not everyone is grateful....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/l...re/7082401.stm
.....my Dad did all the engineering works for the memorial.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/l...re/7082401.stm
.....my Dad did all the engineering works for the memorial.
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Not everyone is grateful....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/l...re/7082401.stm
.....my Dad did all the engineering works for the memorial.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/l...re/7082401.stm
.....my Dad did all the engineering works for the memorial.
This kinda thing really makes my blood boil
Love the BBMF. Regulary fly over my house really low.. The noise is epic
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My Uncle Eric was a rear gunner in Wellingtons, my dad Flew Beaufighters and went ship busting! The Beaufighter was the most heavily armed Allied Fighter of WW2 boasting 4 x 303 mahine guns and 4 x 20mm cannons + wing mounted rockets and offensive armament (from memory). He then Flew Lysanders, dropping SOE agents into Occupied Europe amongst other things.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsUdbzQCm_Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsUdbzQCm_Y
The Beaufighter was a very well armed aircraft as you say. The one worry I was told was if you lost an engine just after takeoff before you had full flying speed. If the speed was not great enough to give enough rudder control the aircraft would be uncontrollable. This was due to the powerful engines and it was the same problem with a heavily laden Canberra. Not acceptable nowadays from the point of view of slight safety.
Also impressed to hear that he flew Lysanders. I always wondered how they managed to land in the dark with virtually no ground lighting and I would have been permanently twitched in case the Germans caught me on the ground.
So much selfless bravery in those dark days.
Les
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My uncle did 2 tours as a rear gunner, commissioned from the rank of FS, and just before he commissioned he was awarded his DFM, would have been a cross 2 weeks later.
He campaigned hard for recognition of the bomber crews and died a couple of months before the announcement that the memorial was to be built
He campaigned hard for recognition of the bomber crews and died a couple of months before the announcement that the memorial was to be built
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Churchills life was not all about good decisions, some were terrible and cost many lifes. For all his blunders and imperfections.....
In 1940 he was the man of the moment. He had moral vison. Was prepared to stand up against the *****, going against the poltical grain and probably at the same time, by doing this giving bankrupt britain no chance of saving her empire.
What a man. He held the moral high ground, motivated a nation that had just suffered a massive defeat in France, sacrificed our final chance of empire, so much of the world today could enjoy a reasonable amount of freedom of speach and information.
the greatest Briton of the 20th century
I rest my case gentlemen.
In 1940 he was the man of the moment. He had moral vison. Was prepared to stand up against the *****, going against the poltical grain and probably at the same time, by doing this giving bankrupt britain no chance of saving her empire.
What a man. He held the moral high ground, motivated a nation that had just suffered a massive defeat in France, sacrificed our final chance of empire, so much of the world today could enjoy a reasonable amount of freedom of speach and information.
the greatest Briton of the 20th century
I rest my case gentlemen.
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Churchills life was not all about good decisions, some were terrible and cost many lifes. For all his blunders and imperfections.....
In 1940 he was the man of the moment. He had moral vison. Was prepared to stand up against the *****, going against the poltical grain and probably at the same time, by doing this giving bankrupt britain no chance of saving her empire.
What a man. He held the moral high ground, motivated a nation that had just suffered a massive defeat in France, sacrificed our final chance of empire, so much of the world today could enjoy a reasonable amount of freedom of speach and information.
the greatest Briton of the 20th century
I rest my case gentlemen.
In 1940 he was the man of the moment. He had moral vison. Was prepared to stand up against the *****, going against the poltical grain and probably at the same time, by doing this giving bankrupt britain no chance of saving her empire.
What a man. He held the moral high ground, motivated a nation that had just suffered a massive defeat in France, sacrificed our final chance of empire, so much of the world today could enjoy a reasonable amount of freedom of speach and information.
the greatest Briton of the 20th century
I rest my case gentlemen.
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