J4CKO

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Cant keep out of the news but this time its a bit closer to home,

http://menmedia.co.uk/wilmslowexpres...reased_patrols

Allowing for a little middle class hysteria in the aritcle...

The wife doesnt want to take our dog out for a walk at the local park now due to the above article, I have seen a group of lads with one locally, there is a dodgy ****** enclave right in the middle of our area and a few of the "boys" on there have them, have seen them lurking outside the local shop with it. Ours had one have a go at him whilst walkign, didnt wan tto cross the road and look like a *****, not worried for myself, but I know Staffs can be a bit dodgy with other Dogs, sure enough it punced and was too strong for the girl walking it, I had to hold ours and hers as far apart as I could as if it would have got hold of it I dont think ours would stand a chance and I wouldnt be able to get it off, not without resorting to braining it with half a brick or something.

http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/ne...ogs.6476033.jp

http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereven...omment=6379230

I generally like Staffs, but it pains me to see some of the knobends that get them and fail to control them, or even actively encourage them to attack other dogs as sport. I expect at some point that they will make it onto the Dangerous Dogs list if this doesnt improve.

I suspect a lot of incidents with other dogs go unreported, some friends got a rescue dog thats half Staff and that is horendous with other Dogs, are they all like that ?

The Zohan

Sadly it looks like the dogs get the bad reputation when the owners are the problem.

Staffs are recommended by the KCC and are regarded as being great with kids. I saw the piece in the Chron and Echo this morning

About time something was done about irresponsible owners who get dogs for all the wrong reasons - do not suppose anything will get done though...

warrenm2

Then that dog shouldnt have been rehomed. If you watched that Panorama programme, Battersea will put a dog to sleep that is that bad rather than rehome it

RuskyV

Unfortunately a dogs behaviour often reflects its owner meaning that a dog like that should be owned by someone who knows how to bring one up from a pup and with responsible training and handling they can be quite tame. But the little dicks that buy them for their street cred are often aggressive as they have know idea how to handle and look after a dog like that.

Dogs like Staffs Doberman, Anatolian karabashes, & rottys are all aggressive if left to do what they want after all they are heavy pack animals! and would require leadership from the owner.
Dog that I have mentioned and others I have missed should not be sold to anyone under a set age or without any knowledge of the breed prior to buying one in my own opinion.
unfortunately illegal breeding is still a problem and the above sorts of people that own them probably have the connections to get hold of illegal breeds anyway....
So sad when the dogs are often not to blame at all.....

dpb

Impossible problem is far as i can see it


But even a labrador is a nasty bit of work when its territory is threatened by other dogs

Sisters ex hunting terrior was bit on the ****, inside and out, - multiple stitches to repair

BOB.T

I know of a Staffie that's not good with other dogs but it stems from being (innocently) attacked. She tends to go defensive. That said, she's easily controlled on a lead and not let off the lead where she's likely to meet other dogs.

I've had my Staffie from 9 months old. To my knowledge she's never had any run ins with other dogs and will play quite happily with my brothers dog. On our walk she gets, aggressively, barked at by various Labs, one of the Walls sausage ad dogs, two...things, not sure what they, possibly Ridgebacks and the worst of the lot is a chuffin Scottie dog! Make of that what you will...

Devildog

There are two issues here.

1 - dogs "fighting" with other dogs

2 - Scum owners promoting the wrong behavior.


1 - some dogs just don't get on with all other dogs just as some people don't get on with others. Its not always a reflection on the owners, and provided the owners are responsible and aware of their dog's behavior it shouldn't be an issue.

2 - We've been here a million times. Only answer is to shoot the ******* scum owners on site and rehome the dogs.

Devildog

Agreed. Often, but not always.

Agreed again

Nonsense. They are inherantly dominant breeds but they are not inherantly aggressive by any means.

All dogs are, arguably, pack animals, irrespective of breed. I say arguably, because there is apparently a school of though that says otherwise (not that I agree)

I'd argue that no dog of any breed should be sold to anyone under a set age and without knowledge (or sufficuent IQ)

Agreed. Which is why shooting the scum and rehoming the dogs is the only answer.

Glowplug

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It is a shame.

All dogs need good leadership.

You should be made to chip and license your dog, say £250 per license plus £100 for each additional animal as and when you aquire them, the license to be renewed foc annually if you have no strikes. Run them on a 3 minor strikes and your out system (or 1 major). Anyone with 3 strikes or a dog and no license will have their dog removed from them, no appeal. This will not be good for the minority of dogs initially but in the long run i think it would soon balance in the dogs and the responsible owners favour. Puppy farms and little chav bastrds out of the equasion for starters.

Mind you saying all that, what license/checks do you need to have children

****'d if i know

J4CKO

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Im probably overstating it a bit there but he has bitten another Dog and they have to be careful, he is only 1/2 Staff, round our way you do get the "Red Setter Brigade" who are sniff about Staffs, I love them but can see also why people are wary.

ODWOC

The breed will be banned, in time

Hysteria1983

Any dog regardless of it's breed can cause harm. To other dogs, other animals and humans.

Silly little rat type dogs are seen as cute and cuddly, and it's a complete double standard that little dogs are fine for children to have as pets.

My neighbour had her pet guinea pig half eaten and spread on her patio by a jack russel!! It wasn't trained, and the moment it got loose from then on, it came straight round to look for a snack.

Yet my sis in law has a staffie, well trained and knows her place. She has always stayed at mine from when my daughter was crawling and I trust her around my children to behave. Given they are never alone with her, and when
necessary, she goes in the garden or garage. Mostly so that she gets a test from my two!

No dog should be sold to anyone unless they have the necessary skills and knowledge to train and look after the animal.

Glowplug

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Our Boxer was attacked by 2 'small cute fluffy' cross terries while out on a walk with Mrs bat, both off the lead in a public place, our Boxer on the lead so she had no chance of escape, 5 puncture wounds to her rear end and my Mrs in bits. Again not the fluffy cuties fault, they should of been leashed.

So should i when i got there, explained to the dick head in the only language he would understand, to keep his ******* dogs on the ******* lead

Think he got the message as he pulled himself to his feet.

gallois

Glad it makes you happy, although you are wrong though, as most people have common sense and realise it is the scummy owners; training (wilfully or ignorantly) these dogs to become aggressive, banning one of the most common breeds in this country will be pointless as they will then select another powerful breed that will make the headlines now and again, so the same people will create the same problems. Certain breeds just attract a certain type of owner, it takes a small fraction of these owners to give that particular breed a bad name. The solution is to ban the irresponsible owners from owning dogs, or as was stated earlier, a regulated registration / licence scheme.

ODWOC

No, I am not

I see, so you are suggesting that these hooded imbeciles will look 'street' with most other breeds? Tell me, oh learned one, why this particular breed is the weapon of choice?

Indeed.

Nope, ban the breed... try to be objective

dpb

And in the real world ...................




Bats suggestions sound more plausible

shamone

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I believe the problem here is with the ******* being allowed to breed, rather than being anything to do with dogs at all

*gets off soapbox*

rob 666

iTrader: (1)

as a genral rule i find my staffy is fine with other dogs however he is not good with other male staffys , so for this reason i dont tend to walk him where there is a chance of meeting one, at home he is good tempered with the kids, could'nt ask for a better companion imo

ODWOC

It's real https://www.scoobynet.com/non-scooby...l-terrier.html

If you are simple, I guess

Glowplug

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Breed what their dogs, or with each other! Both

More_Boost

We have had Rotties for nearly ten years now,you won't find a nicer breed,if brought up through right channels,training from a young age,then socialised with other dogs and people later,then the rest is just a little common sense from the owner,we lost our male last year,buy the bitch is still with us.

And we have now just found her a new mate. [7wks old]


In the right hands,any dog,you won't find a better companion.

Glowplug

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Quote:
Originally Posted by dpb View Post
Bats suggestions sound more plausible


You care to prop that up with some thing more substantial than a, I guess .

paulwrxboro

They are not all bad, not many dogs would be so good with kids

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICtch...eature=related

ODWOC

For the love of God

Anger

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What is your problem

ODWOC

I beg your pardon?

Anger

iTrader: (4)

WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM.... can you read it now

Anger

iTrader: (4)

Had Staffordshire bull terriers and Rottweilers for 20 years now and have never had a problem, mine have always been well trained and use to kids from a young age

My current Staff

ODWOC

Quod erat demonstrandum

Anger

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And you have just answered what i thought about you was correct.... ****