Social workers excel themselves again...
21 July 2010, 06:36 PM
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Social workers excel themselves again...
What is it they always say after a case like this?
'Lessons will be learned' ?- yeah, right.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-10713130
'Lessons will be learned' ?- yeah, right.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-10713130
21 July 2010, 06:46 PM
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I hope his head gets caved in whilst in jail - does not deserve to live!
The inquiry, held by the Leicestershire and Rutland Local Safeguarding Children Board, was told that the baby, known as Child B, was admitted to hospital four times before this.
On one visit she had unexplained marks to her legs, while on another her ear and cheek were bruised.
The investigation also heard the social workers had been warned by a trainee probation officer that Zak Whitlock posed a risk to his child, but were too ready to listen to his problems and those of the child's mother, and ignored the needs of the baby girl.
Both parents abused drugs and were known to police, while Whitlock had a history of mental illness.
I do doubt anybody will get more than warnings for this and allowed to continue after a little retraining on how to do their jobs properly, which, if done right in the first place the safety of the child would have been put first 'lessons will be learned' - that will be the day!
More druggie irresponsible parents - how many more times...
There are six other serious case reviews pending in Leicestershire which are due to be published in the near future. god help the kids under their so called supervision
The inquiry, held by the Leicestershire and Rutland Local Safeguarding Children Board, was told that the baby, known as Child B, was admitted to hospital four times before this.
On one visit she had unexplained marks to her legs, while on another her ear and cheek were bruised.
The investigation also heard the social workers had been warned by a trainee probation officer that Zak Whitlock posed a risk to his child, but were too ready to listen to his problems and those of the child's mother, and ignored the needs of the baby girl.
Both parents abused drugs and were known to police, while Whitlock had a history of mental illness.
I do doubt anybody will get more than warnings for this and allowed to continue after a little retraining on how to do their jobs properly, which, if done right in the first place the safety of the child would have been put first 'lessons will be learned' - that will be the day!
More druggie irresponsible parents - how many more times...
There are six other serious case reviews pending in Leicestershire which are due to be published in the near future. god help the kids under their so called supervision
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21 July 2010, 06:49 PM
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It's just beyond ****ing belief that this can and does happen now days.
Just what is it with incompetent civil servants?
Why the **** don't they LISTEN to what people are telling them?
By Christ, it makes my ****ing **** boil, and there's **** all we can do about it.
Just what is it with incompetent civil servants?
Why the **** don't they LISTEN to what people are telling them?
By Christ, it makes my ****ing **** boil, and there's **** all we can do about it.
22 July 2010, 09:14 AM
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Can't help feeling that the people employed in the job are grossly incompetent and have no intelligence even if they were allowed to use it.
The other indicated possibility is that they just don't care anyway and can't be bothered to do anything about it. That is a frightening thought and I hope it is not correct.
It is most probably due to the NL target driven organisation which removes all use of intellligence and the necessity to do the job concerned properly.
Les
The other indicated possibility is that they just don't care anyway and can't be bothered to do anything about it. That is a frightening thought and I hope it is not correct.
It is most probably due to the NL target driven organisation which removes all use of intellligence and the necessity to do the job concerned properly.
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22 July 2010, 09:29 AM
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Can't help feeling that the people employed in the job are grossly incompetent and have no intelligence even if they were allowed to use it.
The other indicated possibility is that they just don't care anyway and can't be bothered to do anything about it. That is a frightening thought and I hope it is not correct.
It is most probably due to the NL target driven organisation which removes all use of intellligence and the necessity to do the job concerned properly.
Les
The other indicated possibility is that they just don't care anyway and can't be bothered to do anything about it. That is a frightening thought and I hope it is not correct.
It is most probably due to the NL target driven organisation which removes all use of intellligence and the necessity to do the job concerned properly.
Les
You have to ask a very basic question in this case, given the background of the man why was he allowed access to this child?
22 July 2010, 09:47 AM
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My wife has a lot to do with social workers in her job.
Her feelings are that they are mostly good, with a few lazy ones, BUT:
They are TOTALLY bounded with red tape, regulations, rules and targets.
Management is the same, hands tied due to the above. There are tier upon tier of management.
There are NOWHERE near enough of them and the pay is crap.
The ones that are decent soon move on, for more pay, and THEIR caseload is either shared, or taken on by a new one, just trained, but with no experience. No continuity.
The job is VERY stressful and many of them go on sick because of it.
Forms, forms and more forms. Get ONE thing wrong, in the wrong order or missed out and the whole case collapses to be thrown out by magistrates, who are, themselves, bounded by rules, rules and more rules.
Her feelings are that they are mostly good, with a few lazy ones, BUT:
They are TOTALLY bounded with red tape, regulations, rules and targets.
Management is the same, hands tied due to the above. There are tier upon tier of management.
There are NOWHERE near enough of them and the pay is crap.
The ones that are decent soon move on, for more pay, and THEIR caseload is either shared, or taken on by a new one, just trained, but with no experience. No continuity.
The job is VERY stressful and many of them go on sick because of it.
Forms, forms and more forms. Get ONE thing wrong, in the wrong order or missed out and the whole case collapses to be thrown out by magistrates, who are, themselves, bounded by rules, rules and more rules.
22 July 2010, 09:51 AM
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My wife has a lot to do with social workers in her job.
Her feelings are that they are mostly good, with a few lazy ones, BUT:
They are TOTALLY bounded with red tape, regulations, rules and targets.
Management is the same, hands tied due to the above. There are tier upon tier of management.
There are NOWHERE near enough of them and the pay is crap.
The ones that are decent soon move on, for more pay, and THEIR caseload is either shared, or taken on by a new one, just trained, but with no experience. No continuity.
The job is VERY stressful and many of them go on sick because of it.
Forms, forms and more forms. Get ONE thing wrong, in the wrong order or missed out and the whole case collapses to be thrown out by magistrates, who are, themselves, bounded by rules, rules and more rules.
Her feelings are that they are mostly good, with a few lazy ones, BUT:
They are TOTALLY bounded with red tape, regulations, rules and targets.
Management is the same, hands tied due to the above. There are tier upon tier of management.
There are NOWHERE near enough of them and the pay is crap.
The ones that are decent soon move on, for more pay, and THEIR caseload is either shared, or taken on by a new one, just trained, but with no experience. No continuity.
The job is VERY stressful and many of them go on sick because of it.
Forms, forms and more forms. Get ONE thing wrong, in the wrong order or missed out and the whole case collapses to be thrown out by magistrates, who are, themselves, bounded by rules, rules and more rules.
unnecessary/irrelevant paperwork, red tape and pc thinking all must be reduced to a bare minimum and then be kept in check!
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22 July 2010, 11:19 AM
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Isn't it about time common sense and looking after the childrens' interests an welfare first to priority over a few missing full stops and comma's.
unnecessary/irrelevant paperwork, red tape and pc thinking all must be reduced to a bare minimum and then be kept in check!
unnecessary/irrelevant paperwork, red tape and pc thinking all must be reduced to a bare minimum and then be kept in check!
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22 July 2010, 11:26 AM
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Ah, but that's the rub isn't it? Reduce all the paperwork and the need for so many people employed by the local authorities goes down. Thus the need for so many people to manage them goes down. Thus the local/central government budget can be cut. Great I hear you say. Trouble is, as is being seen now, the ones controlling the budgets don't want to see them cut as they'll lose part/all of their empire. And control is power is money ....
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22 July 2010, 11:57 AM
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My wife has a lot to do with social workers in her job.
Her feelings are that they are mostly good, with a few lazy ones, BUT:
They are TOTALLY bounded with red tape, regulations, rules and targets.
Management is the same, hands tied due to the above. There are tier upon tier of management.
There are NOWHERE near enough of them and the pay is crap.
The ones that are decent soon move on, for more pay, and THEIR caseload is either shared, or taken on by a new one, just trained, but with no experience. No continuity.
The job is VERY stressful and many of them go on sick because of it.
Forms, forms and more forms. Get ONE thing wrong, in the wrong order or missed out and the whole case collapses to be thrown out by magistrates, who are, themselves, bounded by rules, rules and more rules.
Her feelings are that they are mostly good, with a few lazy ones, BUT:
They are TOTALLY bounded with red tape, regulations, rules and targets.
Management is the same, hands tied due to the above. There are tier upon tier of management.
There are NOWHERE near enough of them and the pay is crap.
The ones that are decent soon move on, for more pay, and THEIR caseload is either shared, or taken on by a new one, just trained, but with no experience. No continuity.
The job is VERY stressful and many of them go on sick because of it.
Forms, forms and more forms. Get ONE thing wrong, in the wrong order or missed out and the whole case collapses to be thrown out by magistrates, who are, themselves, bounded by rules, rules and more rules.
It seems to me that target driven organisations are created by those such as NL who have not got the first idea of the most productive way to run a workforce.
They favour total control with all those targets set so that they can peruse the results and convince themselves that all is well. The managers will push the workers for fulfilled targets so they can tell the bosses what they want to hear and the workers spend all their time trying to tick the boxes regardless to satisfy the managers.
In the meantime the actual work is neglected and does not get done!
Les
22 July 2010, 12:03 PM
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Thanks for that information. Looks like my third guess was closest then.
It seems to me that target driven organisations are created by those such as NL who have not got the first idea of the most productive way to run a workforce.
They favour total control with all those targets set so that they can peruse the results and convince themselves that all is well. The managers will push the workers for fulfilled targets so they can tell the bosses what they want to hear and the workers spend all their time trying to tick the boxes regardless to satisfy the managers.
In the meantime the actual work is neglected and does not get done!
Les
It seems to me that target driven organisations are created by those such as NL who have not got the first idea of the most productive way to run a workforce.
They favour total control with all those targets set so that they can peruse the results and convince themselves that all is well. The managers will push the workers for fulfilled targets so they can tell the bosses what they want to hear and the workers spend all their time trying to tick the boxes regardless to satisfy the managers.
In the meantime the actual work is neglected and does not get done!
Les
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/ju...ice-on-streets
22 July 2010, 12:32 PM
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You know what Les, you have just summed up what has been done to the NHS, Schools and Police to name a few!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/ju...ice-on-streets
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/ju...ice-on-streets
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22 July 2010, 12:41 PM
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Simple change in the law - immediate removal of any kids from junkie parents, preferably at birth. No way are these kids ever going to be 'better in a family environment' when the number one priority in the house is smack and not the kids.
Another one in the papers here today saying he feels 'cursed' after his 5 month old drowned in the bath they "only left him for a minute" totally irresponsible junkie scum. He's cursed because this comes after his first kid, aged 6 months died in the bath (notice a link here) after being scalded to death. Yes folks, he boils his kid alive but is allowed to carry on and kill another wee one.
Rips your heart out really.
5t.
Another one in the papers here today saying he feels 'cursed' after his 5 month old drowned in the bath they "only left him for a minute" totally irresponsible junkie scum. He's cursed because this comes after his first kid, aged 6 months died in the bath (notice a link here) after being scalded to death. Yes folks, he boils his kid alive but is allowed to carry on and kill another wee one.
Rips your heart out really.
5t.
22 July 2010, 01:19 PM
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Thanks for that information. Looks like my third guess was closest then.
It seems to me that target driven organisations are created by those such as NL who have not got the first idea of the most productive way to run a workforce.
They favour total control with all those targets set so that they can peruse the results and convince themselves that all is well. The managers will push the workers for fulfilled targets so they can tell the bosses what they want to hear and the workers spend all their time trying to tick the boxes regardless to satisfy the managers.
In the meantime the actual work is neglected and does not get done!
Les
It seems to me that target driven organisations are created by those such as NL who have not got the first idea of the most productive way to run a workforce.
They favour total control with all those targets set so that they can peruse the results and convince themselves that all is well. The managers will push the workers for fulfilled targets so they can tell the bosses what they want to hear and the workers spend all their time trying to tick the boxes regardless to satisfy the managers.
In the meantime the actual work is neglected and does not get done!
Les
Whereas ANY schoolboy will tell you that it doen't matter HOW many times you measure something, it won't get any bigger or better, except at it's own rate.
23 July 2010, 05:05 PM
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