Dingdongler

Hi

Under the permitted development rules introduced in 2008 it states that one of the things not allowed under permitted dev' is 'installation or alteration to soil and vent pipes, flues or chimnies'

Does that mean if I needed to move a soil pipe from the existing place to allow a side extension then I need planning permission?

It seems bizarre as the rules allow you to build a side extension without permission as long as its single storey and less than half the width of the existing property. Soil pipes are often found there and may well have to be moved.

You can also build a rear extension up to 3m in length without permission.

Seems weird you can do all this major stuff but then aren't allowed to move a soil pipe.

Is anybody in a position to clarify?

Thanks

SJ_Skyline

Just been through the joys of permitted development and what's allowed/not allowed but I'm certainly not an expert

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/eng...monfluechimney

HTH

GC8

If it transpires that you cant move it, then perhaps enclosing the existing installation would get you around the problem? My soil pipe / stench pipe is on the inside.

Coffin Dodger

Just about to do the same on our "permitted development" extension. The soil pipe will be moving from the back of the house to the side.

The plans were ran past the council and given the thumbs up.

Leslie

Different topic I know, but I heard this morning that Clarkson has been forbidden PP to keep an English Electric Lightning in his garden. He even said that it could be used as a leaf blower if he started it up!

Les

Dingdongler

Thanks.

Sorry I must have misread or perhaps they have been revised at some point and I've been looking at the original draft.

So altering a soil pipe under permitted planning is fine. Which makes sense considering what else is allowed.

SJ Skyline are you doing a rear or side extension?

Coffin, did you get a 'certificate of lawfulness'?

SJ_Skyline

Neither - Loft conversion with an ensuite that resulted in a change to the main soil pipe.

Coffin Dodger

No, just an email from the planning office saying it was okay and that we might wish to consider applying for one. Our architect told us not to bother

Dingdongler

I'm no expert but when I had plans under permitted planning drawn up last year for a loft conversion my architect told me to get the certificate and so I did.

I think it does offer some protection from them deciding later that they don't like something. It also makes it far easier if you were to sell the house.iirc it cost circa £150

Dingdongler

Thanks