Anybody see this on the news this morning? 300000 new houses in Ireland are stood empty, some for upto 4 years.




http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6991149.ece

Ironically one of my mates moved from ireland to the UK because he could not afford the house prices. Looks like Ireland could be heading the way of Greece

 

Saw this on the news this morning.

Some decent sized houses too.

Not sure they should bulldoze them though. Maybe Scoobynet group buy is in order. £10k each, take it or leave it.

Any one up for it?

 

All these governments keep banging on about being green, yet they propose bulldozing virtually brand new houses As nice as the houses are they look totally out of place on the edge of some of the villages, i wonder how they passed planning permission.

 

I think they will eventually regret saying yes in their referendum. Like the one they got and we didn't!

Les

 

and they were given the privilege 2 times.

 

Presumably they ALL around Dublin , Belfast and the like

 

Much the same over here; The builder being part of the same boys clubs as those on the planning committee; You should see the abominations that have been built near me; b*st*rdising high class and pleasent rural/semi-rural areas and raping land off existing properties that were in keeping to then knock down and squeeze 6+ houses on the same spot where one house originally stood.

Yet when my family try to build; planning gets blocked in every direction (NIMBYs, council, highways, the lot ). Maybe bacause what we built was bespoke and not racked and stacked or mass-built like other builder's houses, so didn't serve the council's new housing quota. Or maybe we didn't offer any backhanders, or just simply didn't drink in the same boys club as the influential members of the planning board.

Anyhoo, this gives a nice visual aspect of the empty property: http://ghostestates.com/main.php?g2_view=map.ShowMap

Most look like your usual mass-built crap. No different to whats sprung up round here. Nothing wrong with that per-se, just devoid of character, local amenities (proper ones) and far too overpriced when considering the location, land value and build cost....Can we blame Brown for Eire's boom-bust house prices too?

 

Youll need to become a councillor Ali b !

Say ten years from now youll be able to grant your own planning permission

 

I should add spain has the same problem; The scale of building at its peak about five years ago was simply awesome, one could not look in any direction anywhere without seeing a tower crane blotting the landscape. The most ipmressive thing is the infrastructure; the rate they build bypasses, rail and motorways is probably fifty time faster than the rate the UK builds at.

Although the quality of property being built over there was dire, even by Spanish standards most were very poor. Equally planning for these was often granted via corruption albeit very blatently. Some builders just went ahead and built anyway.

Next time I'm over I'll grab some pics of a nearby illegal ghost development. Builder (Dutch IIRC) built illegally with the intention of getting approval after completion (the attitude over there is; well its built now, you may as well make it legal - here have a cuban cigar, no take the whole pack, I insist, the signed blank cheque? Oh just consider it a donation ). Some houses were sold, some to unlucky expats who didn't do their homework (likely they used the builder's solicitor, who was in on the act). Building ceased when the market went bust, the builder left, as did the solicitor. Water was via pumped storage, electric was via site generator - the builder took those when he left. Leaving the residents without power or water. Iberdrola will not connect power as its an illegal deveolopment (even though the infrastructure is in place - including the substation! ) same with with Suma (equivelent to local council) for the water and rubbish removal. I find it quite bemusing that these things were allowed to carry on, but then again; Money talks.

Can I blame Brown for this too?

 

Well I suppose you could, if it had not been for him > Brown and his party of fcukwits these blokes probably wouldent have moved to start with

 

erm..... none in belfast mate. AFAIK belfast is still part of the UK, i could be wrong though.

 

Have they lost the keys ?