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Old 30 March 2010, 03:20 PM
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Question English Bull

The GF has talked me into getting a dog. we both like the look of the English bulls and have been told they are good with Kids. We have a 5 and 7 year old.

I'm after help here, are these dogs realy ok with kids ?? I know its how a dog is brought up but these are powerfull dogs and can do alot damage if they wanted.

I have seen a few advertised (18m - 2years old) but I deffo need a pup so I know how it has been raised. We are going on Holiday in June so will not bee looking until after that date.

So any help on the following please

1) Are the kids to young
2) Where do I get a pup from (based in Newcastle)
3) What price
4) Is there thing I should look at before buying
5) What questions should I be asking breaders
Old 30 March 2010, 03:51 PM
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English Bull Terriers are arguably the least intelligent dog and very hard to train.

I've known some lovely natured ones (as most will be) but they're not really up there in the looks stakes either.

Why an English Bull?
Old 30 March 2010, 03:54 PM
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Description:

Gentle, friendly, and adoring, with a mischievous dose of stubbornness, the English Bulldog is incessantly loyal to its family. Bulldog napping Bulldog resting It usually gets along well with other animals, is particularly fond of children, and does best indoors. Highly spirited as a puppy, the English Bulldog grows up to be a calm adult. The breed prefers not to exercise, can easily overheat, and is prone to drooling and snoring.
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Never had one, nor known anyone close either, but by all accounts, sound lovely.

Depends what you want out of the dog, if you want to be trekking around national parks or up mountains and such like, then not the dog for you. You need to research what dog will fit in with your life style, rather than what "looks" a nice dog.
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Why an English Bull?


Never had a dog before but have always liked the look of a english Bull (I know alot of people dont) and so does the misses. And the fact that a few people have said there good with kids.

The dog will be walked at least twice a day, and I didnt want one for "trekking around national parks or up mountains". So sounds perfect. The dog was more for the misses and the kids. But I know the dog will be come mine when they get bored, so I want a dog I like aswell.

Cheers so far

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Sorry I was after info on and English Bull Terrier....
Old 30 March 2010, 04:21 PM
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Ah, then in my opinion, I wouldn't trust that breed around kids.
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Good friend of mine had one and it had a great nature.
The one problem he had was that the dog was rock solid muscle and when it used to scoot (it couldn't run properly as it's chest and leg muscles got in each others way) around the room or the garden you needed to keep out of it's way. It would nigh on break your ankle if it ran into your legs. It could seriously damage kids if it ran into them.

Based on my experience of that one dog, I'd say that as long as you keep yourself and your family out of it's way when it starts lolloping around you'll be ok.

Bull Terrier FAQ's

"Q. I have a 2 and a 4 year old child. Should I get a Bull Terrier?

A. Generally no. It would be better to wait until they are a little older before obtaining a Bull Terrier. Not that a Bull Terrier would be any more likely to attack a child than any other breed, but they are clumsy, and they are excitable especially as puppies or young adults. Any damage to children would normally be accidental, like excitement bites, or knocking the child down heavily rather than a deliberate attempt to cause harm. It can be, but not always, different if the dog is already in the home. Then the situation could be different, but even then great care should be taken. Needless to say no dog should be left alone and unattended with a child."
Old 30 March 2010, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by grovesy
Sorry I was after info on and English Bull Terrier....
That's good, as that's what my posts relate to

Although Bulldogs ain't that clever or pretty either

What about a Staffie? Fantastic with kids.

If its your first dog (whatever it is), I'd also be looking at getting a bitch.
Old 30 March 2010, 04:42 PM
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Old 30 March 2010, 04:54 PM
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just remember its how you bring it up and treat it that counts which ever dog you choose
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Originally Posted by Devildog
That's good, as that's what my posts relate to

Although Bulldogs ain't that clever or pretty either

What about a Staffie? Fantastic with kids.

If its your first dog (whatever it is), I'd also be looking at getting a bitch.
i agree with this, staffies are brilliant with kids (do research on nanny dogs) although the scoobynet police usually gang up on us responsible owners and tar us with the same brush. fighting dogs/out of control/ chav mascots/ etc. etc.. get one thats a pup and you will be very happy at their personality and character.
Old 30 March 2010, 05:28 PM
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Hmm as with all dogs they can be extremely friendly or extremely nasty. My Mrs had three of them when we met the friendly one was overpowering with her love but could not tolerate other dogs. The nasty one was just that with anyone or any other dog even to the point she had to cage it up when anyone visited. She used to breed and had to watch the young like an hawk, if the mother didn`t snap at them while feeding individually for nipping her teat, they would square up with each other for a fight at 4 weeks and on one occasion when she wasn’t looking one had half his ear bit off. She got rid of them when we had our kids, and I’ve just asked her if she would get one with a 5 and 7 yr old and she did a pouty smile and shook her head.
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Hi , go for the staffie m8 , we have had them for 40 year and never had a bad one with kids or adults . English bulls are also good with kids but i have been told by diffrent owners that they are stubern and lazy. heres a pic of my latest staffie.
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Theres one of these dogs arrives in the pub i realise with his fairly neanderthal owner - im sure hes fine really

Im sure the dog is fine as well , but its clearly built with intentions

Is a common or garden bull dog not macho enough ??

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Old 30 March 2010, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by tj1

awwww, look at that face, soooooo cute. I love staffies.
Old 30 March 2010, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by tj1
What a great picture

Fantastic looking dog
Old 30 March 2010, 06:27 PM
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Lovely looking dog!
Old 30 March 2010, 06:28 PM
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i have a 3 children 5,3 ,2 year old i have 2 englishbull bulls and a englishbull x pit never seen aggression ur more likely to get bit buy a jack russel or yorshire terrier (no affence to them) its how u bring them up buy a pup tho
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thumbs up for staffies i've had one for 8 years now good with kids (i have three aged 15 , 10 & 4 ) never had any incidents, do like the look of a bull terrior myself but think that will have to wait untill the youngest is a bit older as they are hard work to train , research carefully tho to get the best dog that suits you
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prob never owned a bull terrier i own 3 would never change them its how u bring them up!!!!!!!
Old 30 March 2010, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by superstar1
The answer is simple, never trust a dog around young children, and why would you want a chav dog anyway, is it to go with your chav car?
The first part of this statement is spot on, the rest is just trolling sh@te.

Any dog has the ability to turn on a child and should never really be left alone with them.
Old 30 March 2010, 07:50 PM
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that goes with out saying!!!! never leave my kids alone with them but they all play tidy when im around!! brilliant temperment
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Old 30 March 2010, 08:00 PM
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I have an English Bull Terrier. I would say if you haven't had one before then get a bitch as they are easier to control and train. If you give them time and attention then they are easy to train. You wont see them on Cruffs, but you can get them to sit, stay, lie down, come to you, etc pretty easily.

They are great with kids. I have had no problems at all, but you have to apply some common sense and make sure that they are watched (its a dog). I have a 4 year old and a 4 month old baby.

They are very very strong though. As said before, if they are running around then they can take you off your feet by just knocking into you. Don't teach them boisterous games etc as they get really strong when they are older and can hurt you without even trying. They are really good natured, but teeth and claws with 5 stone behind has to be respected.

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They look a great trio Snowy


Can you *really* say youve never left them alone with the kids tho, im doubtful - i suspect you can only really do the best you can
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Originally Posted by snowy710


This is a breed I've been looking into getting for a couple of years now. They are very stubborn so be prepared to work hard to train one. The reward is a very loyal and loving dog.


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