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Old 07 February 2010, 02:03 PM
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Default If you had a million quid could you live off it?

If you were sensible, bought a house for about £250,000 or less and left the rest in the bank and lived off the interest, could it last till you died without you having to work again?

I dont know what the interest would be so someone else would have to do the sums.
Old 07 February 2010, 02:12 PM
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You could but it would have to be a frugal life
Old 07 February 2010, 02:15 PM
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No, it's around £3.5 million rising weekly, so ******** a footballers not going to get you that comfortable retirement package, may have to do a couple of politicians as well....
Old 07 February 2010, 02:15 PM
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I remember reading that 4.5million was the minimum needed to never work again and live like a hog in the fat house while you do it.

1 million would remove a lot of financial obsticles in your life, but personally, I think you'd need to work still.
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Old 07 February 2010, 02:16 PM
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Have you got a million pounds ,and come here looking for advice what to with it..
Old 07 February 2010, 02:16 PM
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Dont think you could. OK you'd have the house, but the fact that the money was there would be enough to make me dip into it. I dont even think the insurance would be that great, especially at the mo!

Think at 2%, it will be £15000. Anyone confirm this?

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Old 07 February 2010, 02:16 PM
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If you had £1m it would be stupidity to spend a chunk of that on a house when the interest on the money would pay for the mortgage and other spends.
Old 07 February 2010, 02:19 PM
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4% of £700,000 is £28,000 a year with No mortgage! I say I would retire!

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Old 07 February 2010, 02:23 PM
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Live off it yes. Live off it extremely comfortably with it left in the bank at current rates no. If you have something about you though then your lifestyle on £750,000 without a mortgage, (as per your scenario, although not the best route), can be comfortable depending on your 'needs'. 10% is £75,000/year after all said and done if you make it work.
Old 07 February 2010, 02:24 PM
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I did say in my first post 'if you were sensible'. It wouldn't take long to buy a house from the interest then live off the million pound interest. What interest a month would a million generate?
Old 07 February 2010, 02:32 PM
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It depends on the interest rate. The answer now will be very different to the answer had you asked this in August 2008.
Old 07 February 2010, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ROCKETMQ1
4% of £700,000 is £28,000 a year with No mortgage! I say I would retire!
But in 20 years time £28k wouldn't be worth very much. This is the key problem.

You need to earn interest and grow the capital base at the same time. So assuming you can get 4% you will need to reinvest half of it and keep half of it.

Assuming £1m, buy a house for £250k then you will be living off £10-12k a year for life.

It's just not enough.
Old 07 February 2010, 02:35 PM
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The missing link in this thread is inflation - this is what wipes out the worth of £1million over a given period, in 10 years 10% of a million is worth a lot less than today.
Old 07 February 2010, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Trout
But in 20 years time £28k wouldn't be worth very much. This is the key problem.

You need to earn interest and grow the capital base at the same time. So assuming you can get 4% you will need to reinvest half of it and keep half of it.

Assuming £1m, buy a house for £250k then you will be living off £10-12k a year for life.

It's just not enough.

Don't forget you still have £750,000 to spend a little way down the line! I wouldn't be leaving that in the bank for the tax man when I pop my clogs!
Old 07 February 2010, 02:44 PM
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Of course you could live on £50k a year for 15 years. But what do you do then?

If you have three years to live - fill yer boots.

But know one knows and even someone who is 60 could have another 25-30 years.

This is why you would want to protect your capital unless you were sure you were going to die!

Unless of course you had a solid pension and you knew your retirement age!

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Old 07 February 2010, 03:14 PM
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In answer to your question ...

"yes I could happily retire on that sort of sum .!!!!"

It all depends on how carried away you get I suppose .I personally ,would move somewhere warm and sunny and live quite a simple life in a reasonable size home ,without any hassle .Age 40

Go on ,Do It .!!!!!
Old 07 February 2010, 03:23 PM
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Be better off renting a nice house, say £1000 a month. That way you would have more in the bank gathering interest.
Old 07 February 2010, 03:28 PM
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Assuming inflation averages around 2%, you would need an average return of about 7% to get an income in the £30-40K a year range (before tax) and still be growing your capital in line with inflation. You would strugge to get 7% with no risk to your capital, but you could probably achieve it as an average over a reasonable timeframe with a medium level of risk. However the return would not be smooth, and you would undershoot or even lose money some years - so if you are relying on the income to live off you may starve unless you have a buffer.

You could look at a strategy where you bought the house for £250K, kept £100K as a buffer, and then invested £650K in a medium risk portfolio for growth and income. I think if I were in this position I would be tempted to keep working for a few more years saving what I could since I wouldn't have a mortgage.

If you really do have the money go and see your bank - they will fall over themselves to put something together for you!
Old 07 February 2010, 03:32 PM
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pic a new housing estate build, buy 4 houses next to eachother live in one? prob 2400 a month in rent coming in

thinking about it its a crap ideal lol, a million generates a grand a week interest doesnt it?

mind you bricks and mortar are safer than banks
Old 07 February 2010, 06:11 PM
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build 4 houses and sell them, profit into bank and live off interest, build 4 more houses, profit into bank and live off more interest. Then build 5-8 houses at once, sell then half into bank half into investment etcetc


If you are wise with money/investment then a million pounds is a great starter to "spend money to make money"
Old 07 February 2010, 06:16 PM
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when you consider that a top-spec hooker can cost upto and over 5000 great english pounds plus rental of hotel rooms, i really couldn't see a million lasting me over 6months.
Old 07 February 2010, 06:38 PM
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yes you can have a great life but might struggle on the interest and living costs in the uk

I have a place in cebu and live like a dozen kings on £100 per week """
where the weekly wage is a tenner and £15 if your a professional ""
I only stay in this country and work as i enjoy it at the moment but looking forward to my early retirement in 5 years and 8 minths and 3 days

i will get £500 rental from my house per month and enjoy myself on the pleaseures in life
Old 07 February 2010, 07:37 PM
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next week's euro millions sounds good to me
Old 07 February 2010, 08:12 PM
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I would say you would still need to work but looked after carefully shouldn't really have any money worries again.

I certainly wouldn't just live it in the bank thats for sure.
Old 07 February 2010, 09:48 PM
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Not the way I would do it, but £1m would buy an annuity for a couple that would give an average household income rising at 3% pa, if you are age 50. Quite sobering really.
Old 08 February 2010, 09:26 AM
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Good idea in principle but unlikely to have any sort of death benefits.

Annuity starts, one payment made, couple die in car crash, no more payments. Insurers win.

Put £200K on deposit
Pay off mortage or find somewhere nice for c£200,000 (plenty for round here anyways)
Spend £100K on house, cars, stuff.
Invest £500K - I'm a balanced to cautious investor so whatever asset allocation suits my profile.
In 25 years that £500K should have increased suitably to allow a comfortable retirement at 55.

You would have to keep working although you could then choose your job, take a pay cut to do something you actually enjoy.

If I could, I'd go to Uni and do the Motorsport degree in Swansea.

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Old 08 February 2010, 09:35 AM
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Another option would be to buy 4 houses at 250k each and rent them out at 1250 a month. £60K income a year and you still have the capital in the houses which may well grow over time.
Old 08 February 2010, 10:32 AM
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SS yes easily and the older you get the easier it would become ;-)
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Short answr; Yes, quite easily - if you were single .

But only via a humble lifestyle and doing consistant monitoring of investment and asset managment. Funds will not last long living like a footballer's WAG.

So no new cars, no silly expensive house (the bigger the house, the more it costs to run in rates and utilities), and no lavish gifts to oneself or partners/kids.

Everything spent must be in either to live (food, bills etc.) or on wise investment (no buy to(i)letting - that sector is saturated ). Investments must gain enough interest to cover annual living costs (including tax) AND inflation. It won't do that sat in a bank.

A millionaire's lifestyle is pretty pants TBH; you need a higher goal post - so marry someone richer

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