One for the grammar police?
12 January 2010, 07:38 PM
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One for the grammar police?
1.Don't abbrev.
2.Check to see if you any words out.
3.Be carefully to use adjectives and adverbs correct.
4.About sentence fragments.
5.When dangling, don't use participles.
6.Don't use no double negatives.
7.Each pronoun agrees with their antecedent.
8.Just between you and I, case is important.
9.Join clauses good, like a conjunction should.
10.Don't use commas, that aren't necessary.
11.Its important to use apostrophe's right.
12.It's better not to unnecessarily split an infinitive.
13.Never leave a transitive verb just lay there without an object.
14.Only Proper Nouns should be capitalized. also a sentence should begin with a capital letter and end with a full stop
15.Use hyphens in compound-words, not just in any two-word phrase.
16.In letters compositions reports and things like that we use commas to keep a string of items apart.
17.Watch out for irregular verbs that have creeped into our language.
18.Verbs has to agree with their subjects.
19.Avoid unnecessary redundancy.
20.A writer mustn't shift your point of view.
21.Don't write a run-on sentence you've got to punctuate it.
22.A preposition isn't a good thing to end a sentence with.
23.Avoid cliches like the plague.
24.1 final thing is to never start a sentence with a number.
25.Always check your work for accuracy and completeness.
2.Check to see if you any words out.
3.Be carefully to use adjectives and adverbs correct.
4.About sentence fragments.
5.When dangling, don't use participles.
6.Don't use no double negatives.
7.Each pronoun agrees with their antecedent.
8.Just between you and I, case is important.
9.Join clauses good, like a conjunction should.
10.Don't use commas, that aren't necessary.
11.Its important to use apostrophe's right.
12.It's better not to unnecessarily split an infinitive.
13.Never leave a transitive verb just lay there without an object.
14.Only Proper Nouns should be capitalized. also a sentence should begin with a capital letter and end with a full stop
15.Use hyphens in compound-words, not just in any two-word phrase.
16.In letters compositions reports and things like that we use commas to keep a string of items apart.
17.Watch out for irregular verbs that have creeped into our language.
18.Verbs has to agree with their subjects.
19.Avoid unnecessary redundancy.
20.A writer mustn't shift your point of view.
21.Don't write a run-on sentence you've got to punctuate it.
22.A preposition isn't a good thing to end a sentence with.
23.Avoid cliches like the plague.
24.1 final thing is to never start a sentence with a number.
25.Always check your work for accuracy and completeness.
13 January 2010, 11:30 AM
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Its the use of strange and made up words that puzzles me.
Why does everyone now say "Proven" instead of the original English word "Proved" "Proven" is an ancient Scottish legal term and is not even English!
How is it that we don't have "Problems" any more-they are all "Issues" now! Whats the point of using that word?
How is it that when "Dave" get his policy wrong when talking about his marriage policy in an interview-he says later that it was "misdeclared" Is that an English word?
Why can't we just stick with original English instead of making it up?
Les
Why does everyone now say "Proven" instead of the original English word "Proved" "Proven" is an ancient Scottish legal term and is not even English!
How is it that we don't have "Problems" any more-they are all "Issues" now! Whats the point of using that word?
How is it that when "Dave" get his policy wrong when talking about his marriage policy in an interview-he says later that it was "misdeclared" Is that an English word?
Why can't we just stick with original English instead of making it up?
Les
13 January 2010, 11:42 AM
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Its the use of strange and made up words that puzzles me.
Why does everyone now say "Proven" instead of the original English word "Proved" "Proven" is an ancient Scottish legal term and is not even English!
How is it that we don't have "Problems" any more-they are all "Issues" now! Whats the point of using that word?
How is it that when "Dave" get his policy wrong when talking about his marriage policy in an interview-he says later that it was "misdeclared" Is that an English word?
Why can't we just stick with original English instead of making it up?
Les
Why does everyone now say "Proven" instead of the original English word "Proved" "Proven" is an ancient Scottish legal term and is not even English!
How is it that we don't have "Problems" any more-they are all "Issues" now! Whats the point of using that word?
How is it that when "Dave" get his policy wrong when talking about his marriage policy in an interview-he says later that it was "misdeclared" Is that an English word?
Why can't we just stick with original English instead of making it up?
Les
Please see point 11 above
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13 January 2010, 11:54 AM
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Obviously "edukashun" is not what it used to be. The amount of lazy tw@ts on the internet who can only spell phonetically is, quite franky, sad...
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Its the use of strange and made up words that puzzles me.
Why does everyone now say "Proven" instead of the original English word "Proved" "Proven" is an ancient Scottish legal term and is not even English!
How is it that we don't have "Problems" any more-they are all "Issues" now! Whats the point of using that word?
How is it that when "Dave" get his policy wrong when talking about his marriage policy in an interview-he says later that it was "misdeclared" Is that an English word?
Why can't we just stick with original English instead of making it up?
Les
Why does everyone now say "Proven" instead of the original English word "Proved" "Proven" is an ancient Scottish legal term and is not even English!
How is it that we don't have "Problems" any more-they are all "Issues" now! Whats the point of using that word?
How is it that when "Dave" get his policy wrong when talking about his marriage policy in an interview-he says later that it was "misdeclared" Is that an English word?
Why can't we just stick with original English instead of making it up?
Les
13 January 2010, 12:37 PM
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Anyway I must be grateful to David Lock for correcting that monumental error!
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13 January 2010, 12:46 PM
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There are many many many lanuages which have influenced "modern" English, as we know it today (Thanks to politicans, we have what we have). Scotts Galic is probably the closest we have to what old english was, and in fact, Glaswegian *IS* an Olde English dialect. All other "English" spoken in the UK is an "accent". The Hebredies appears to be the only place in the "UK" that still speaks "English".
I always got the impression that someone comparatively recently discovered the word "Proven" and thought it sounded clever to use it instead of "Proved". It must have caught on.
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13 January 2010, 12:51 PM
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Thanks Big S. Have to say that I did not realise that, so you are saying that "It's" is short for "It is" and that "Its" indicates possession. Looks the wrong way round to me going by the rules!
Anyway I must be grateful to David Lock for correcting that monumental error!
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Anyway I must be grateful to David Lock for correcting that monumental error!
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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
its, it's or its can mean:
its, the possessive adjective and possessive pronoun form of the personal pronoun it
it's, a contraction of it is or it has
13 January 2010, 12:56 PM
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Why then does Rab C Nesbitt have English subtitles in the southern counties of England?
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Yes ok Klaatu. I still remember being pulled up at school for putting "Proven" after a mathematical proof once and having it all explained to me by the teacher.
I always got the impression that someone comparatively recently discovered the word "Proven" and thought it sounded clever to use it instead of "Proved". It must have caught on.
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I always got the impression that someone comparatively recently discovered the word "Proven" and thought it sounded clever to use it instead of "Proved". It must have caught on.
Les
The word "proven" is likely derived from a French word (Contract is derived from a French word), of which I do not know, but with maths, you may have upset the "teacher" as maths (In the UK) was based in Latin at that time. French, since 1066 and Latin before, were offcial languages in "England"...and it took some time before English (Thanks to Bible printing) became the "norm".
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BTW, I am from South London.
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13 January 2010, 01:55 PM
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Mohammad in Dell customer services could barely string two words together.
And Mrs Patel who "tried" to talk to me when my Sky box was having problems wasn't a whole lot better
In fact she actually asked me "How is your weather being"
13 January 2010, 02:03 PM
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I'm not sure what curriculum people in the Netherlands are using to learn English but it should be adopted here, their grip on the English language puts our native youngsters to shame.
I personally blame the schools, I have never been the greatest at grammar, the more I use PC's the lazier I get. It would have been nice however to be taught correctly in the first place so bad habits I have today would not have started!
I personally blame the schools, I have never been the greatest at grammar, the more I use PC's the lazier I get. It would have been nice however to be taught correctly in the first place so bad habits I have today would not have started!
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Mock me all you like however, what I say is true. Glaswegian is an Olde English dialect, and it's the only real, near, Olde English dialect left. The reason why there are subtitles is because we can't understand it. It's an old language, and English as we know it has been basterdised and adopted to suit over time. This process of change in English is still happening. We have American English, Australia English and many other dialects throughout the world. An example is how Glaswegains pronounce the word "Head". They pronounce it as "Heed", and that is a derivative of an Olde English, or Scotts Galic for that matter, word.
BTW, I am from South London.
BTW, I am from South London.
I am yanking yer chain mate. i do not doubt the validity of your arguement/. i find it mildly ironic at a "sarf" london boy providing provenance to a broad belfast paddy.
gae tae fa ya bassa. all in the best possible taste of course
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Or a Waterford "Paddy", but you'd not get it from my "accent".
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I'm not sure what curriculum people in the Netherlands are using to learn English but it should be adopted here, their grip on the English language puts our native youngsters to shame.
I personally blame the schools, I have never been the greatest at grammar, the more I use PC's the lazier I get. It would have been nice however to be taught correctly in the first place so bad habits I have today would not have started!
I personally blame the schools, I have never been the greatest at grammar, the more I use PC's the lazier I get. It would have been nice however to be taught correctly in the first place so bad habits I have today would not have started!
that vast majority of young people in EU countries can speak fluent english. i think it looks so bad when english speaking media people interview non native english speakers in english and expect, yes EXPECT them to understand and reply in english.