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Old 11 January 2010, 02:33 PM
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This IS the Daily Mail: The 'false' pandemic: Drug firms cashed in on scare over swine flu, claims Euro health chief | Mail Online but it has some valid points.

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Old 11 January 2010, 04:01 PM
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This was nailed-on from the start - look at the hysteria Big Pharma & the WHO tried to create with the supposed bird flu pandemic.
Old 11 January 2010, 04:31 PM
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And the UK government is STILL spending our taxes advertising for parents to get their 2-5 year olds vaccinated against it.
Old 11 January 2010, 10:13 PM
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On the news this evening they were talking about the UK government trying to renegotiate a contract so they don't have to take and pay for another 60 million doses of vaccine. Most other European governments are doing the same.
Old 12 January 2010, 04:47 AM
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sooo where are all the people who were arguing with myself and a few others on here several months ago when we mentioned this?????? Had quite abit of abuse too if i recall. Sort it out you lot.
Old 12 January 2010, 05:55 AM
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If you can make money from fighting an invisible and unbeatable enemy - you are in a good fight.
With the hysteria that passes for the press and a PM with shall we say, knee jerk proclivities - you can hardly blame the Pharmas for taking advantage.
It reminds me of a horror movie I saw a long time ago - the monsters were invisible. Special effects budget was zero. Bloody effective all the same.
Old 12 January 2010, 05:58 AM
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There are PLENTY of folk on here, who, quite worryingly, seem to accept at face value ANYTHING the government tells them

And any attempt to dissuade them results in violent outbursts, they seem to have an almost releigious fervour.

WMD, the Iraq invasion, The Hutton report, Brown as a brilliant chancellor, global warming/climate change, and now this lot.
Old 12 January 2010, 01:23 PM
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They have been telling us lies for 13 years now!

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Old 12 January 2010, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
And the UK government is STILL spending our taxes advertising for parents to get their 2-5 year olds vaccinated against it.
Perhaps they should Jeff. I know someone who died from swine flu quite recently. Admittedly she was in a high risk group, having type one diabetes, but the danger is very real to those who are more susceptible.
Old 12 January 2010, 01:53 PM
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They didn't scare me into getting dosed up

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Old 12 January 2010, 02:07 PM
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I think like most conspiracies this is nonsense.

Far from whipping up a public fears, the government and WHO spent most of the time trying to reassure that this virus wasn't a serious risk to life, that the effects were nearly always mild, and that it is unlikely to be more harmful than seasonal flu.

The media on the other hand went to town on this issue. Maybe that's the conspiracy, maybe the media owners are in bed with the drug companies?

The facts remain that a severe (probably avian) flu is going to happen one day, then we wont have threads about conspriracy theories, we'll have threads moaning about how the government didn't warn us all properly, or didn't take the right steps.....
Old 12 January 2010, 02:10 PM
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^^ I don't think they should bother as flu etc is there as a control against population size, nature at Her best ... if it's not flu then something else will just cull the weak.

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Old 12 January 2010, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by hutton_d
Umm Like Liam Donaldson, the chief medical officer at the Department of Health. From Swine flu could kill 65,000 in UK, warns chief medical officer | World news | The Guardian

"... Up to 65,000 people could die from swine flu in the UK in a worst case scenario set out by the chief medical officer as the government launched a national service for patients to obtain antiviral drugs over the internet and telephone ..."
That really reassured people that swine flu wasn't a "serious risk to life" ...




No. But the WHO are. Don't you ever do any research yourself? In this case people have posted links to the evidence and you're here showing your inability to actually follow those links. I hear Microsoft do basic computer courses .....



Says who? The chief medical officer .... ? Do you just swallow every piece of cr*p that comes out from this government or one of its mouthpieces??????

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And you call this evidence

If there's a conspiracy theory about, I can be pretty sure you'll be in cyberland peddling myths

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Old 12 January 2010, 04:23 PM
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I wouldn't call it a conspiracy - it is just a business opportunity for most of the parties concerned, excepting perhaps the government, which alas is just lacking in leadership.
Old 12 January 2010, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by hutton_d
Now you're the one who's mentioning a *conspiracy*. I just put up facts to refute your claims. So, what about the fact that the UK's chief medical officer was saying up to 65000 could die, when you're saying that the authorities were playing down the risk????? If that's playing down the risk, I'm a Chinaman!

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You'd better **** off back to China then
Old 12 January 2010, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by hutton_d
Now you're the one who's mentioning a *conspiracy*. I just put up facts to refute your claims. So, what about the fact that the UK's chief medical officer was saying up to 65000 could die, when you're saying that the authorities were playing down the risk????? If that's playing down the risk, I'm a Chinaman!

Dave
You seem to of latched upon the one statement which was (self evidently) a worse case scenario. You have completely ignored the fact that there were daily statements Donaldson and the WHO put out during the pandemic outbreak calming public fears and down-playing the media hype.
Old 12 January 2010, 06:09 PM
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Can you point to any links?

I for one saw him On Breakfast and he was all but screaming, "Pandemic! Bring out your dead!".
Old 12 January 2010, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by hutton_d
Very true - 1.3 billion (angry) grasshoppers can do a lot of damage
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