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Old 25 October 2009, 05:21 PM
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Thumbs down Fuel creeping up again - why?

Noticed T99 is £112.9, Optimax is £113.9 & VPower £114.9. Normal unleaded is £108.9. Any reason for it to be going up?

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£114.9 a litre is £5.21 a gallon
Old 25 October 2009, 05:44 PM
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Regional differences seem to be increasing too. 95RON can be bought for 105.9 in Sheffield (Tesco in Chesterfield have the audacity to charge 107.9 though), whereas it only costs 101.9 in Derby. We're being had: again.
Old 25 October 2009, 05:49 PM
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We are told that the oil price is increasing hence the price at the pump is too.

Funny how it never goes down as much as it goes up.

Greedy oil companies + spineless government = high petrol prices forever

The rot set in the day it broke the £1 a litre mark. It will never drop below a pound again I reckon as the public have once again dropped their collective pants and taken it up the jacksie.
Old 25 October 2009, 05:51 PM
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Shell round my way are cheaper than most.

normal here is £1.05 and vpower is £1.09
tesco is £1.06 and 99 ron is £1.12

shell all the way still
Old 25 October 2009, 06:05 PM
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Wouldn't have thought the pound being a "banana" currency helps.
Old 25 October 2009, 06:11 PM
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We are heading into winter more demand for gas and oil, coupled with the fact that the pound is plummeting people tend to lose faith when you print money to get yourself out of trouble.
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Originally Posted by cster
Wouldn't have thought the pound being a "banana" currency helps.
Not sure what you mean there.

Dollar/pound exchange rate was 1.48 in April and petrol was 90p a litre

Today it's 1.65 and yet petrol is over £1 a litre.

We are being screwed.
Old 25 October 2009, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by kingofturds
We are heading into winter more demand for gas and oil, coupled with the fact that the pound is plummeting people tend to lose faith when you print money to get yourself out of trouble.
The pound is higher against the Euro than it was when we were paying 90p a litre.
Old 25 October 2009, 06:34 PM
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controversial view but petrol’s cheap imo (and compared to what I was paying in the early 90’s it defiantly is)

a big reason for it being lower than it was, is that the world economy fell off a cliff and demand suffered

soon as a global recovery kicks in I would think it will easily hit 1.25ltr.

why would anyone sell a finite commodity like oil at any less than the maximum price they can get for it?

every barrel sold at $50.00 by the major oil producers can never be sold at a higher price.
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
controversial view but petrol’s cheap imo (and compared to what I was paying in the early 90’s it defiantly is)

a big reason for it being lower than it was, is that the world economy fell off a cliff and demand suffered

soon as a global recovery kicks in I would think it will easily hit 1.25ltr.

why would anyone sell a finite commodity like oil at any less than the maximum price they can get for it?

every barrel sold at $50.00 by the major oil producers can never be sold at a higher price.
Because if they price it so high it contributes to prolonging the economic slump then they will not be selling very much of it comparitively.
Old 25 October 2009, 06:59 PM
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This is puzzling me too. I filled up last week and it cost me 1.17.9 ( where the hell does the .9 come from) for Ultimate.
Funny thing is, I got a call from my oil supplier for home heating, asking if I wanted a fill up as it is the cheapest it has been for a while
Old 25 October 2009, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
The pound is higher against the Euro than it was when we were paying 90p a litre.
Not by much tho lets face it
Old 25 October 2009, 07:19 PM
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Surprised to find diesel at less than £1 a litre in Belgium and France.

We are being had, definitely, but as long as it's price remains high, government collect more in terms of VAT, so can anyone see Lying Labour doing anything about it?
Old 25 October 2009, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Because if they price it so high it contributes to prolonging the economic slump then they will not be selling very much of it comparitively.
yes i understand that logic

my point is the oil producers are not interested in an economic recovery per se
they want to maximise the return on their Oil reserves

its finite -- and when its gone its gone -- whatever the state of the world economy

i not sure that the Oils Sheiks (and Chavez) are that worried about how much it costs me or you to get to work -- thats basically the rub of it
Old 25 October 2009, 07:45 PM
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Just gone up to 92.9c here, That's about 54p a litre

Yup you are being shafted
Old 25 October 2009, 08:15 PM
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payed 1.15.9 today for v-power, and had to put some bp super the other day at 1.17.9!!!

**** that
Old 25 October 2009, 08:30 PM
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i said the same thing to the petrol cashier at tesco ,he said it went up twice last week
Old 25 October 2009, 08:34 PM
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It is finite, but as the price goes up it becomes economically viable to extract it from areas where the extraction costs end-up higher, and still make a profit.

When I was at school it was predicted that we would run out of oil by 2020, then the arabs trebled the price overnight....

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P.S. I paid 104.9 for SUL at Sainsburys.
Old 25 October 2009, 08:38 PM
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About 70% of the price is tax and you also have the VAT added in aswell.
Old 25 October 2009, 08:42 PM
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Your answer....


BBC NEWS | Business | Oil price hits new high for 2009
Old 25 October 2009, 09:26 PM
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And VAT is due to go back to 17.5%
Old 25 October 2009, 09:39 PM
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Also why is it that at one petrol station for example Bp the price is 5p a litre more expensive than a Bp garage 30 miles down the road And when you ask in the petrol station why its not gone down they say its because they bought that batch at the previous high price, yet as soon as it goes back up so does the price Its not all goverment as far as i can see.
Old 25 October 2009, 09:42 PM
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tbh i think we all are to blame really, what happened to all the protests etc. a couple of years back, there was no fuel to be had in a lot of places and the big companies lost out big time. the knock on effect for the deliveries to big superstores etc. really started to make things serious and then, and only then did the government actually sit up and take notice of what was being demanded from the average motorist and big transport companys. bring on the revoloution i say, do you think the likes of the FRENCH would allow themselves to be shafted like this? i thought not ! pisses me off tbh that we are experts at putting up with these things but pretty crap at making a stand. right rant over, off now to drive the missus punto lol.
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Originally Posted by my06 ppp silver
tbh i think we all are to blame really, what happened to all the protests etc. a couple of years back, there was no fuel to be had in a lot of places and the big companies lost out big time. the knock on effect for the deliveries to big superstores etc. really started to make things serious and then, and only then did the government actually sit up and take notice of what was being demanded from the average motorist and big transport companys. bring on the revoloution i say, do you think the likes of the FRENCH would allow themselves to be shafted like this? i thought not ! pisses me off tbh that we are experts at putting up with these things but pretty crap at making a stand. right rant over, off now to drive the missus punto lol.
the french also have road tolls (roughly £60.00 to get to the Alps) and a wealth tax
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The top and bottom of it all is they know that we'll pay it !!!!!
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Originally Posted by azz250478
Its not all goverment as far as i can see.
No as a poster above said it went up twice last week and that is nothing directly to do with the government. However, if we had a government with more spine maybe they could bring pressure to bear on the oil companies who will charge whatever the market will stand and in the case of the British that is nealry as much as they want as we just take it.
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
No as a poster above said it went up twice last week and that is nothing directly to do with the government. However, if we had a government with more spine maybe they could bring pressure to bear on the oil companies who will charge whatever the market will stand and in the case of the British that is nealry as much as they want as we just take it.
When the government takes such a high percentage out as tax in one way and another, it is hard to imagine the oil companies giving a **** IMO.
They might indeed well argue, that at least they have done something for their cut of the pie.
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The Copenhagen love-in?
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Last time we looked there were 8 oil tankers parked up in Torbay waiting for the price of oil to go up before they unload it.

Les
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Two weeks later, filled up yesterday £1.18.9 Ultimate.
Same garage. Another 1p increase. Doesn't seem much, I know. But if it goes up every fortnight


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