Awesome - BBC now doubts global warming!
12 October 2009, 05:46 PM
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Awesome - BBC now doubts global warming!
BBC NEWS | Science & Environment | What happened to global warming?
If they carry on like this, I'll buy a license...
If they carry on like this, I'll buy a license...
12 October 2009, 06:07 PM
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BBC NEWS | Science & Environment | What happened to global warming?
If they carry on like this, I'll buy a license...
If they carry on like this, I'll buy a license...
And the IPCC "... But he makes it clear that he has not become a sceptic; he believes that this cooling will be temporary, before the overwhelming force of man-made global warming reasserts itself ...".
So still trying to set us up for humongous taxes!
Meanwhile in the real world .... EU Referendum: Totally unprepared (several links in the blog for *very* early snow!).
Tibet: "Local herdsmen in summer pastures were totally unprepared for the disaster with no winter clothes, for it was not yet time to move to winter pastures".
The US: "The big chill followed Friday's snow resulting in record low temps set on Saturday in both Missoula and Kalispell".
Finland: "Southern parts of Finland are expected to have snowfall on Monday morning - a full month ahead of normal".
Enjoy!
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12 October 2009, 06:28 PM
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No, because it's " climate change " 
and all of this below;
Tibet: "Local herdsmen in summer pastures were totally unprepared for the disaster with no winter clothes, for it was not yet time to move to winter pastures".
The US: "The big chill followed Friday's snow resulting in record low temps set on Saturday in both Missoula and Kalispell".
Finland: "Southern parts of Finland are expected to have snowfall on Monday morning - a full month ahead of normal".
Is the evidence. Pay up to save the planet fella's.
and all of this below;Tibet: "Local herdsmen in summer pastures were totally unprepared for the disaster with no winter clothes, for it was not yet time to move to winter pastures".
The US: "The big chill followed Friday's snow resulting in record low temps set on Saturday in both Missoula and Kalispell".
Finland: "Southern parts of Finland are expected to have snowfall on Monday morning - a full month ahead of normal".
Is the evidence. Pay up to save the planet fella's.
12 October 2009, 06:44 PM
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When I was at school it was acid rain that was going to destroy the world, they showed us a video of 2015 where you could not go out without a protective rubber mac,and the rain dissolved sandstone buildings and killed lakes of fish on contact
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12 October 2009, 06:57 PM
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think that was a true story set in west hull ,thats what its like
seriously though its all about taxing the poo poo out of us including the oil situation ,enough oil left to last a million years
13 October 2009, 05:43 AM
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Not at all. But it is still a paradign shift, the BBC is still pro-AGW, but at least the BBC is now opening up a bit to allow the other side of the story to be told. They are just in CYA mode, in preparation for Copenhagen (All the time the world get's colder).
13 October 2009, 07:25 AM
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No, it's not an about face if you read inbetween the lines. The BBC are still fully pro-AGW but now appear to be willing (For once in such a long time) to actually do journalism and allow all sides of a topic to be opened up and debated.
13 October 2009, 08:22 AM
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Indeed. Here's some more ... KSTP TV - Minneapolis and St. Paul - Snow Hurts Business That Rely on Autumn Tourism
"... Seeing snow this early is not normal. This is only the third time in the last 60 years that there's been measurable snow twice in the Twin Cities in the first half of October ..."
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"... Seeing snow this early is not normal. This is only the third time in the last 60 years that there's been measurable snow twice in the Twin Cities in the first half of October ..."
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13 October 2009, 10:15 AM
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but was thinking paradigm shift in terms of the last major proper one being Newtonian mechanics to Quantom theory around 1920ish, sorry being pedantic, let me know if you can think of anything more recent.
13 October 2009, 10:16 AM
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Indeed. Here's some more ... KSTP TV - Minneapolis and St. Paul - Snow Hurts Business That Rely on Autumn Tourism
"... Seeing snow this early is not normal. This is only the third time in the last 60 years that there's been measurable snow twice in the Twin Cities in the first half of October ..."
Dave
"... Seeing snow this early is not normal. This is only the third time in the last 60 years that there's been measurable snow twice in the Twin Cities in the first half of October ..."
Dave
13 October 2009, 10:51 AM
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So what can we expect in the next few years?
Both sides have very different forecasts. The Met Office says that warming is set to resume quickly and strongly.
It predicts that from 2010 to 2015 at least half the years will be hotter than the current hottest year on record (1998).
Both sides have very different forecasts. The Met Office says that warming is set to resume quickly and strongly.
It predicts that from 2010 to 2015 at least half the years will be hotter than the current hottest year on record (1998).
13 October 2009, 12:01 PM
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We have had climate change for a while now. It seems to be going back to way it was a good few years ago and we are getting the sort of weather that we used to regard as normal for this country. Rainy days and cool temperatures in the summer etc. as we see.
It was stated that the early global temperature measurements were inaccurate because the balloons which supported the instrumentation were being warmed by the sun's radiation and were transmitting false temperatures to the instruments. Over the last ten years there has been in fact a decrease in the global temperatures. The bandwagon that our rulers leapt upon is being undermined, much more of this sort of reporting and they won't have the excuse for all those taxes-not that they will take much notice of that of course!
There is also a school of thought that our climate is highly dependent on the solar energy which arrives by courtesy of the solar disturbances caused by sunspots as I have mentioned before. We are over halfway towards the peak of the 11 year cycle and there have been very few sunspots for a long time now. Nornally there would be a much bigger concentration. Solar energy was mentioned in that report. Last time when the sun went very inactive like that was when there was a mini ice age! That was when the Thames froze over.
About time that we were told the full truth about changes to the climate etc.
Les
It was stated that the early global temperature measurements were inaccurate because the balloons which supported the instrumentation were being warmed by the sun's radiation and were transmitting false temperatures to the instruments. Over the last ten years there has been in fact a decrease in the global temperatures. The bandwagon that our rulers leapt upon is being undermined, much more of this sort of reporting and they won't have the excuse for all those taxes-not that they will take much notice of that of course!
There is also a school of thought that our climate is highly dependent on the solar energy which arrives by courtesy of the solar disturbances caused by sunspots as I have mentioned before. We are over halfway towards the peak of the 11 year cycle and there have been very few sunspots for a long time now. Nornally there would be a much bigger concentration. Solar energy was mentioned in that report. Last time when the sun went very inactive like that was when there was a mini ice age! That was when the Thames froze over.
About time that we were told the full truth about changes to the climate etc.
Les
13 October 2009, 02:10 PM
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Sceptics welcome BBC report on 'global cooling' - Telegraph
14 October 2009, 04:05 AM
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The Daily Telegraph site (where I found the link to the Beeb) agrees with you - "Possibly some people in the BBC have worked out that the whole shooting match will collapse and they had better be ahead of the game."
Sceptics welcome BBC report on 'global cooling' - Telegraph
Sceptics welcome BBC report on 'global cooling' - Telegraph
Austria sees earliest snow in history, and America sees lowest temperatures in 50 years: So where did global warming go? | Mail Online
14 October 2009, 04:07 AM
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14 October 2009, 04:08 AM
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You don't know how right you are. Fortunately, December is still a couple of months off...and here in sunny Sydney, it's dull, wet, windy and.......cold.
14 October 2009, 04:10 AM
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We have had climate change for a while now. It seems to be going back to way it was a good few years ago and we are getting the sort of weather that we used to regard as normal for this country. Rainy days and cool temperatures in the summer etc. as we see.
It was stated that the early global temperature measurements were inaccurate because the balloons which supported the instrumentation were being warmed by the sun's radiation and were transmitting false temperatures to the instruments. Over the last ten years there has been in fact a decrease in the global temperatures. The bandwagon that our rulers leapt upon is being undermined, much more of this sort of reporting and they won't have the excuse for all those taxes-not that they will take much notice of that of course!
There is also a school of thought that our climate is highly dependent on the solar energy which arrives by courtesy of the solar disturbances caused by sunspots as I have mentioned before. We are over halfway towards the peak of the 11 year cycle and there have been very few sunspots for a long time now. Nornally there would be a much bigger concentration. Solar energy was mentioned in that report. Last time when the sun went very inactive like that was when there was a mini ice age! That was when the Thames froze over.
About time that we were told the full truth about changes to the climate etc.
Les
It was stated that the early global temperature measurements were inaccurate because the balloons which supported the instrumentation were being warmed by the sun's radiation and were transmitting false temperatures to the instruments. Over the last ten years there has been in fact a decrease in the global temperatures. The bandwagon that our rulers leapt upon is being undermined, much more of this sort of reporting and they won't have the excuse for all those taxes-not that they will take much notice of that of course!
There is also a school of thought that our climate is highly dependent on the solar energy which arrives by courtesy of the solar disturbances caused by sunspots as I have mentioned before. We are over halfway towards the peak of the 11 year cycle and there have been very few sunspots for a long time now. Nornally there would be a much bigger concentration. Solar energy was mentioned in that report. Last time when the sun went very inactive like that was when there was a mini ice age! That was when the Thames froze over.
About time that we were told the full truth about changes to the climate etc.
Les
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14 October 2009, 03:44 PM
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I check them every day when I am on my HAM radio and it has been a while since we saw some and then only for a short time.
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15 October 2009, 04:59 AM
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There was a period of 54 (I think) straight days without spots, nearly broke a 100 year record. On't it's way up again, 12 and counting.
15 October 2009, 05:01 AM
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Yeah shame that Dr K. Briffa used one tree out of 12 (YAD061 - tree ring proxy) which the IPCC used to produce the now infamous AGW hockey stick graph so loved to Gorites and other hippie alarmists.
15 October 2009, 12:19 PM
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15 October 2009, 12:29 PM
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But, apperantly, there is only a 0.01% difference in energy reception between (Recorded, and we've been doing that for some time) solar maximum/minimum, not enough to "cause" climatic "swings". Given that ~98% of *all* energy the Earth receives comes from the Sun, I am not so sure.