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Old 20 August 2009, 01:23 PM
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BBC NEWS | UK | Wales | Film to stop texting and driving
Old 20 August 2009, 01:25 PM
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Was posted the other day, long discussion followed lol
Old 20 August 2009, 01:26 PM
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Ah bugger
Old 20 August 2009, 01:28 PM
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https://www.scoobynet.com/non-scooby...t-driving.html

no biggy, important subject
Old 20 August 2009, 01:34 PM
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The only way to reduce crashes etc is to improve driver education, training, testing and Police enforcement. Shock ads like this DON'T work. People notice them the first few times, but then switch off to the underlying message and revert back to old habbits. That's why each series of ads get MORE SHOCKING and so on...and nothing changes because the root cause, driver education, training and testing, isn't improved.
Old 20 August 2009, 01:40 PM
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To be honest by the time the advert finished I had forgotton the original point of the advert, and spent the rest of the time picking faults with the details of the crash, and too engrossed in watching the jaws of life working etc.....

Thats prob just nerdy me.
Old 20 August 2009, 01:42 PM
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Ads are cheap, proper driver training/testing isn't. So the ads win...of course.

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Old 20 August 2009, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Klaatu
The only way to reduce crashes etc is to improve driver education, training, testing and Police enforcement. Shock ads like this DON'T work. People notice them the first few times, but then switch off to the underlying message and revert back to old habbits. That's why each series of ads get MORE SHOCKING and so on...and nothing changes because the root cause, driver education, training and testing, isn't improved.

Police enforcement is the way forward in my opinion. £1,000 fine and six points minimum.
Old 20 August 2009, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Police enforcement is the way forward in my opinion. £1,000 fine and six points minimum.
It has to be all, not just one "stick" component. There has to be carrots too. Statistical evidence since the time when seatbelts and speed limits were mandatory suggests the "system" if failing regardless of hasher penalties and more shocking "awareness" ad campaigns.
Old 20 August 2009, 02:00 PM
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Don't understand the point you're making? Did you mean is rather than if?
Old 20 August 2009, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Don't understand the point you're making? Did you mean is rather than if?
Sorry *is* failing, not if. Snytax eerro ko.
Old 20 August 2009, 02:15 PM
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I don't think you can train people not to answer their phones or text whilst driving. There can't be many people who don't recognise the inherent dangers. But people will continue to do it unless the threat of getting caught, and the penalties for doing so, are effective enough. Look at average speed restrictions, they're massively effective. But the chances of getting caught using a mobile in a car are still, in my opinion, way way too low.
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Well then you need to police, penalise and fine the use of radios, cd players, casset players, DVD players, applying makeup, smoking (Going for the lighter - In fact I still recall a cigarette lighter was standard in all cars once, but you had to pay for seatbelts), using rasors, reading books and newspapers, reacting to screaming kids, unrestrained animals, and the mirriad of other "distractions" which has caused more crashes than texting on mobiles!
Old 20 August 2009, 02:30 PM
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Absolutely. What you need above all, is real police rather than picture-taking yellow boxes obsessed with speed alone.
Old 20 August 2009, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Absolutely. What you need above all, is real police rather than picture-taking yellow boxes obsessed with speed alone.
Ah, revenue gatherers. Of course, but this is cheap. Proper training, education etc costs.
Old 20 August 2009, 08:09 PM
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Texting is way more distracting than the above scenarios

Shouldnt come with a fine at all , just a ban


Implementation of the law has too be toughened up first tho
Old 20 August 2009, 11:21 PM
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I remember about ten years ago, a friend of mine got a new Vauxhall Carlton company car. It came with a slot in the dashboard where you could insert a SIM, and you could compose text message from buttons on the steering wheel!!!

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Old 21 August 2009, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Klaatu
reading books and newspapers
Have to say thats something I've never seen anyone do while driving. Would have thought if seen by the police they wouldnt get away with it.
Old 21 August 2009, 09:13 AM
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Saw a Dad in a Euro Box people carrier just yesterday either checking or reading a text - just hope he didn't have the kids in the car. Ads like this will work with a percentage of people. For others it will require enforcement on the road via fines and points. However, you will always get a certain number of people who will do what they want behind the wheel of a car - no matter what you do to educate them. You only have to watch day time TV to realise there are some seriously dense people who are ably to get behind the wheel. These people are so thick and degree of empathy or joined up thought is well beyond them. At the other extreme, you have the 'intelligent' person who is so arrogant of their own driving ability that they truly believe it could never happen to them. There should be some kind of aptitude/character test as part of the driving test - fail it and you can only drive Robin Reliants. I wonder if will catch on?

People who use mobiles:
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Yeah, i agre - sorz about the spelln - am drivn at the mo.













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Old 22 August 2009, 04:22 AM
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this was filmed near Tred wasnt it ant? btw ill be up soon to see this X of yours.
Old 22 August 2009, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Police enforcement is the way forward in my opinion. £1,000 fine and six points minimum.
Agreed + 1


That advert will not work, within 5 minutes after seeing that you'd forget about it and the general attitude would be.........''but that's never going to happen to me.''
You wouldn't forget a hefty fine and some points though.
Old 22 August 2009, 11:38 AM
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Certainly does no harm to show the horrors of such crashes and how it is so easy to get into such a situation by use of a mobile phone and in particular sending text messages. It is a completely brainless way to behave of course.

Trouble is, so many feel that they are in some way special and that it can't possibly happen to them.

As with any offence, the only real chance to reduce it happening is to have penalties which equate to the likely results of the crime. It is a significantly more dangerous offence than speeding for example and the penalties and loss of points should reflect that.

I am getting fed up of seeing people coming out of side turnings and roundabouts using a mobile and veering towards me, even blokes in large lorries can be seen at it!

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Old 22 August 2009, 05:54 PM
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It's one of those things where you'll never listen to people telling you that you can't do it, when you clearly can. It would take either something bad happening as a result of it, or the Police becoming more strict to make you think.
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