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Old 18 July 2009, 12:12 PM
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Very weird one this, my mate can to pick me up the day after my son was born and took me into the hospital and then went home.

On his way to my house he was stopped and questions about the ownership and tax of the car. He had only bought it the day before and the cop seemed fine with that.

He explained where he was going and showed him the card for my misses and the baby. The cop again was fine and sent him on his way.

2 Months later he gets a NIP for 36 in a 30 .. for that morning.. on the stretch of road he was pulled over ..

Seems it took them a while to track him down.

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Old 18 July 2009, 12:15 PM
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Without looking at the paper work I would say that's going nowhere. 14 days to present NIP. 3 to 4 weeks for the return of the v5 I think they have gone over time by 2 weeks.

I would approach the CAB with the paper work.
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Should not be a problem for the reasons above.

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Old 18 July 2009, 12:52 PM
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Not necessarily.
The original NIP could of been sent to the old keeper within 14 days, they then have 28 days to respond, the subsequent NIP could then have been sent to your mate within 14 days of getting it back.
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anyway to know?
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I'm sure they will have crossed the T's and dotted the I's ..... are the rules different if you are stopped rather than it being a camera?
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Surely if they had followed your mate and clocked him for speeding then they should have given him the NIP / ticket on the spot

Speed vs Fines

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Originally Posted by SunnySideUp
I'm sure they will have crossed the T's and dotted the I's ..... are the rules different if you are stopped rather than it being a camera?
Originally Posted by Midlife......
Surely if they had followed your mate and clocked him for speeding then they should have given him the NIP / ticket on the spot

Speed vs Fines

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or at least mentioned it !
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The speed camera and the cop who pulled him are probably un-related. There are only traffic cars who can pull you for speeding. The general panda cars are not equipped with the equipment.
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Originally Posted by Felix.
The speed camera and the cop who pulled him are probably un-related. There are only traffic cars who can pull you for speeding. The general panda cars are not equipped with the equipment.
course they can .. if they see you going over the limit they can pull and prosecute.

My Dad got done as in the opinion of the Officer he was speeding .. it was some Dog warden van !

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But you have to base it on fact, not an opinion. The evidence will be the speed recording equipment. They can prosecute for careless/dangerous/incosiderate - if that is what he got done for
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Originally Posted by Felix.
But you have to base it on fact, not an opinion. The evidence will be the speed recording equipment. They can prosecute for careless/dangerous/incosiderate - if that is what he got done for

I have to admit that was my view -- i.e. they had to have an actual speed, not just "you were going to fast"

but in an thread last year on a speeding ticket issue, some of the legal eagles on here kicked that opinion into the long grass, and the police can indeed testify in court that in their opinion you were exceeding the speed limit, and a magistrate will convict you of a speeding offence
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If it "was estimated that you were exceeding the speed limit" by the plod,99% you are going to get a fine and an endorsement even if you go to court.My son got caught the "old fashioned way" ie without any camera evidence,and still got three points.
And in their evidence,they did not calibrate their vehicle speed until the week after the said offence!Load of bllcoks!
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Originally Posted by Felix.
But you have to base it on fact, not an opinion. The evidence will be the speed recording equipment. They can prosecute for careless/dangerous/incosiderate - if that is what he got done for
Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
I have to admit that was my view -- i.e. they had to have an actual speed, not just "you were going to fast"

but in an thread last year on a speeding ticket issue, some of the legal eagles on here kicked that opinion into the long grass, and the police can indeed testify in court that in their opinion you were exceeding the speed limit, and a magistrate will convict you of a speeding offence
Originally Posted by hannogo
If it "was estimated that you were exceeding the speed limit" by the plod,99% you are going to get a fine and an endorsement even if you go to court.My son got caught the "old fashioned way" ie without any camera evidence,and still got three points.
And in their evidence,they did not calibrate their vehicle speed until the week after the said offence!Load of bllcoks!
I thought Felix was a copper too ?
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As far as I remember, you can be convicted of speeding on an estimation, but that has to be by two individual coppers at the time.

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Old 19 July 2009, 11:40 AM
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If pulled over by the police you can get a verbal NIP rather than the one that comes through post within 14 days from a speed camera. They then have 6 months to prosecute.
Old 19 July 2009, 12:05 PM
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I thought 2 forms of evidence have to be provided, one can be the speedo of the car, the other is the officer, doesnt have to be 2 individual officers

Question is though was he speeding ?

Guy at work has just had a NIP through for 52 in a 50 on SPECS
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