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Old 11 May 2009, 08:55 AM
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After the News report this morning where a man has been presumed drowned and a woman suffering injuries .... where they tried to save their dog in a river.

Got me thinking - what would I do? Stand by while my dog drowned/was swept away? Jump in and risk my own life? .. and then the lives of rescuers?

I think instinct to save your dog would outweigh the logic of staying safe ... despite me shouting at the TV that they are stupid. So, I guess I would have to do something?

What would you do?
Old 11 May 2009, 09:16 AM
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Most of the time when this happens the owner drowns and whilst that is happening the dog finds it's own way onto dry land.

When they teach you life saving they always say going into the water should be considered the last resort once all other possibilities have been exhausted. Try to find a long stick or branch to reach out to the dog or throw it a stick tied to something (extending lead?).

As you say as harsh as it is you shouldn't place your own or anyone else's life at risk over a dogs but in the heat of the moment people don't often think rationally.
Old 11 May 2009, 09:20 AM
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Against all odds and logic, if I saw my dog drowning in a river I'd be straight in there trying to save it
Old 11 May 2009, 09:54 AM
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the bloody things can swim way bettter than all of us

plain mental
Old 11 May 2009, 09:56 AM
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Agreed.. as nuts as it is .. I would be straight on in after her !
Old 11 May 2009, 09:59 AM
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It is mental - its a dog afterall.
I know people get attached etc, but its still just a pet.
Old 11 May 2009, 10:21 AM
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Our pet is part of the family, so I would also be prepared to try everything in my power to save him.

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Old 11 May 2009, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Coffin Dodger
Most of the time when this happens the owner drowns and whilst that is happening the dog finds it's own way onto dry land.

When they teach you life saving they always say going into the water should be considered the last resort once all other possibilities have been exhausted. Try to find a long stick or branch to reach out to the dog or throw it a stick tied to something (extending lead?).

As you say as harsh as it is you shouldn't place your own or anyone else's life at risk over a dogs but in the heat of the moment people don't often think rationally.
Spot on!
Old 11 May 2009, 10:26 AM
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If my dog fell into the river, I would dive in and get him. People say that its just a dog, but if you have one, it becomes family.

Sorry to hear about this news though, never nice reading about it.

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Old 11 May 2009, 10:34 AM
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Have heard of loads of reports over the years of owners drowning whilst trying to save their dogs...only for the dogs to 'save' themselves.
If it was just too dangerous for either me or the wife to go in-i wouldnt.Hard to say,as, like mentioned before,our dogs are a firm part of the family.
My wife tends to panic when it comes to our lab as she is very squat and always looks as though she is struggling.But leave her to it,and she always sorts herself out -am talking about the lab,not the wife
Most people just aren't strong swimmers,so with the best intention,they always succumb to the elements first.
However,as mentioned-rational thinking tends to fly out of the window when it becomes personal

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Old 11 May 2009, 10:56 AM
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madness to me i,m afraid -- leave my children to grow up without a father, no way
Old 11 May 2009, 01:19 PM
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I believe he has now been found, by Police divers - dead. His wife has also died. They were out walking their baby in a pram. What a tragedy.
Old 11 May 2009, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SunnySideUp
I believe he has now been found, by Police divers - dead. His wife has also died. They were out walking their baby in a pram. What a tragedy.

But did the dog make it
Old 11 May 2009, 01:29 PM
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Would be interesting ... but, they don't say - probably dragged itself out of the river 5 miles downstream!
Old 11 May 2009, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
madness to me i,m afraid -- leave my children to grow up without a father, no way
Snap!

Fair enough, dogs are treated like family but at the end of the day, it's not human. You'd have to be crazy to jump into a river with strong currents, just to save a dog. (and I love the things!) Darwin awards.....

Tragedy though
Old 11 May 2009, 01:42 PM
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No logic in diving in after a dog
If it can't make it, you've got no chance.
The dog is always going to be a better swimmer/have more stamina than you.
Old 11 May 2009, 03:50 PM
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Around 5 years ago a Labrador fell thro the ice at Belhus Country park lake, both a husband and wife went in after it, both died, dog rescued itself.
Old 11 May 2009, 04:04 PM
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Our dog is an insanely good swimmer (black lab). Despite being quite a swimmer myself, if she got in trouble, I'd get in worse strife if I tried to help her. She's a seal with ears and a built in wetsuit!

Just spent a week nr Porthleven where the waves are incredibly powerful - a few caught her but she was fine. I also swim with her a lot in the Summer (in the sea) - she just keeps on going and going and going...

She got a battering (by a wave) just after I took this (phone) pic:

Old 11 May 2009, 04:12 PM
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It goes without saying I would jump in after her. When Im at home my dog is next to me every minute....unless the wife is here then the dog prefers Sarah....logic says not to do something like that but if given the choice of saving her or not even trying, I'd have to try.
Old 11 May 2009, 04:18 PM
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If you have a dog that can't swim, it's not a proper dog.
Old 11 May 2009, 05:47 PM
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Since our hound is really a fat white otter who can easily outswim the rest of us, there's no chance I'd risk it



Like Matt says, if your dog can't swim (and better than you), it's not a proper one anyway
Old 11 May 2009, 06:13 PM
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The story in question happened in Kilwinning. I know the Garnock river area well, and used to walk my dog along the same river path
The man that died was my next door neighbour's nephew. She just lost her brother last week, so its a double blow for her.
Old 11 May 2009, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
If you have a dog that can't swim, it's not a proper dog.
How true . Friend of my mothers kept chiuwawas ( big s.p. ? ) , mainly as annoying little ornaments i felt , one day one of them fell into a lock and of course that was it - only use after that perhaps a floor mop

n.b. Locks are of course dangerous , so dont attempt to dive in to one

although at the time this one i believe was not being worked in any way
Old 11 May 2009, 07:22 PM
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id be in after it part of the family
Old 11 May 2009, 08:30 PM
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NO CHANCE.
I would throw the wife in....
Old 11 May 2009, 08:34 PM
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I wouldn't go in for two reason's:-

1- I dont have a dog
2- I swim like a brick
Old 11 May 2009, 08:35 PM
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On a serious note, the two parents, now deceased, were incredibly selfish.
The damage they have done far outweighs losing a dog.
I know this is a raw subject but no-one forced them to jump in after that animal.
Madness......
Old 11 May 2009, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by urban
It is mental - its a dog afterall.
I know people get attached etc, but its still just a pet.
That's true, but where that happened yesterday the river looks like nothing. I'd jump in there in a second. Not sure what happened exactly.
Old 11 May 2009, 10:20 PM
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Absolute lunacy to risk your life for a domestic animal, and the woman left her small baby alone to jump in after him.
Old 11 May 2009, 10:23 PM
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Been there and I have to say I followed advice. The stretch of water the time was frozen and the dog went through.

Dad looped 1 lead (2 dogs) through my belt and I leaned out over the water on a fishing platform and lifted the dog out.

Jumping in never occured to me, and at the time I was a very strong swimmer. messing round in canoes on the river 7 in feb, you have to be.



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