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Old 11 May 2009, 06:55 AM
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Well done, Berlusconi Perhaps you could teach the British government?

Italy does not want to become 'multi-ethnic' says Silvio Berlusconi - Telegraph
Old 11 May 2009, 07:24 AM
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Prepare for outrage from tofu sandal wearing middle England Earth mothers who've never set foot outside their tranquil village and think inner city slums are a fictional creation for TV drama and films to spout on about how uneducated cultural misfits can benefit our great nation, as long as they don't allow them into the Cotswolds.

For the record, I have no objection to any person of any race, colour, creed or nationality living in any country, as long as they do so for good reason. If they cannot support themselves wherever they go then they must return to their place of origin and not become a burden on any host nation. I have not worked continuously since the age of 16 for up to 80 hours a week paying every due requested of me to provide free housing and financial support for anybody whom thinks it is acceptable to not make every effort to sustain their own existence. The welfare state should be there to temporarily help those in difficulty until their situation improves, and not an international money pot for all to plunder.
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Originally Posted by corradoboy
Prepare for outrage from tofu sandal wearing middle England Earth mothers who've never set foot outside their tranquil village and think inner city slums are a fictional creation for TV drama and films to spout on about how uneducated cultural misfits can benefit our great nation, as long as they don't allow them into the Cotswolds.

For the record, I have no objection to any person of any race, colour, creed or nationality living in any country, as long as they do so for good reason. If they cannot support themselves wherever they go then they must return to their place of origin and not become a burden on any host nation. I have not worked continuously since the age of 16 for up to 80 hours a week paying every due requested of me to provide free housing and financial support for anybody whom thinks it is acceptable to not make every effort to sustain their own existence. The welfare state should be there to temporarily help those in difficulty until their situation improves, and not an international money pot for all to plunder.
Spot on mate!
It is not just about Africa/Africans, or any religion, it is about all immigrants
except for i do not want the UK letting in criminals or those who cannot prove who they are or where they came from, should be returned to the country from where they last where, no ifs, no but's and the immediate removal of anyone committing any crime.

Having paid in continuously for 26 years and to be told i could not receive JSA because i was self employed for a certain period of time i watched non English people receiving their NI number and list of benefits including JSA that they could claim - i know this for a fact as in most cases i could hear the translators telling them so.
They also need to make the systems fairer as it seems skewed against the indigenous population who then get quite upset - this is where a lot of mistrust and hatred comes from and makes easy recruiting for the likes of the BNP!

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Old 11 May 2009, 08:40 AM
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Our country just doesn't have the ***** to do this! Big up to Italy fair play for them closing there gates so to speak!
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Especially those from North of the border! Political asylum is one thing, but economic migration should not be tolerated! Send 'em all back up north, and while we're at it, stop subsidising the spongers!
Old 11 May 2009, 09:33 AM
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How very unlike Berlusconi, coming up with some nasty populist cleptrap to distract attention from his public and private messes. Well done SN for not falling for it.
Old 11 May 2009, 09:52 AM
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Somethimes i spect the poor b'stards yearn for the Mussolini years
Old 11 May 2009, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by corradoboy
Prepare for outrage from tofu sandal wearing middle England Earth mothers who've never set foot outside their tranquil village and think inner city slums are a fictional creation for TV drama and films to spout on about how uneducated cultural misfits can benefit our great nation, as long as they don't allow them into the Cotswolds.

For the record, I have no objection to any person of any race, colour, creed or nationality living in any country, as long as they do so for good reason. If they cannot support themselves wherever they go then they must return to their place of origin and not become a burden on any host nation. I have not worked continuously since the age of 16 for up to 80 hours a week paying every due requested of me to provide free housing and financial support for anybody whom thinks it is acceptable to not make every effort to sustain their own existence. The welfare state should be there to temporarily help those in difficulty until their situation improves, and not an international money pot for all to plunder.
Can't say fairer than that!

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Old 11 May 2009, 11:47 AM
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And just where is the " .. nasty populist cleptrap ... " in sending back ILLEGAL immigrants to where they came from before they set foot in the country? We should do exactly the same. Find someone stowing away on a lorry/train from Calias then send them back on the next ferry. Easy.

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Exactly Dave!

Until the likes of martin see what it is like and the problems this causes then they will believe what they believe.

They ignore any warning signs, brush away anything they do not find palatable, as rubbish and/or spread by extremists.

It has always been this way with the Gucci socialists and chattering classes. However, once it does affect them it will be a different story!

Same mentality as the people who believed Nev Chamberlain as he got off the plane after meeting with the ***** and then fobbed of with there will be no war

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Old 11 May 2009, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by hutton_d
And just where is the " .. nasty populist cleptrap ... " in sending back ILLEGAL immigrants to where they came from before they set foot in the country? We should do exactly the same. Find someone stowing away on a lorry/train from Calias then send them back on the next ferry. Easy.

Dave

Yes we should send all illegals back, no doubt, no objections, no problem.

I'm sure once that has been done all our problems will be over, recession will end, the sick will be healed and the hungry will be fed. The only draw back I can see is that we wont have anyone left to blame should nothing really change.

Why can we not get this 'problem' into perspective, we face much bigger problems than this...much bigger.
Old 11 May 2009, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by hutton_d
And just where is the " .. nasty populist cleptrap ... " in sending back ILLEGAL immigrants to where they came from before they set foot in the country? We should do exactly the same. Find someone stowing away on a lorry/train from Calias then send them back on the next ferry. Easy.

Dave
< tofu mode on >

Oh, oh, oh, but you CAN'T send them back, they've come from somewhere utterly terrible and they'll end up being killed if they go back. It's not fair, it's a human rights violation

< tofu mode off >

You know what, I don't care. I have very little empathy for things like this, it's just the way I am. If this lack of empathy is seen by many as racism, so be it.

There is an immigration process, use it! I'm sure it is far cheaper and less dangerous to use the official process than to stow away in a truck/boat/whatever. If it's because you know you will not be allowed to enter the country through the official process then there must be a valid reason for the denial. Our immigration policy is rather poor, so if you point to the word "asylum" on a poster/leaflet (you won't be able to speak English, nor have a desire to learn it, as you don't want to integrate, you want to just stick to your own little community and turn that area into your own little slice of home, but with the advantage of government hand-outs, and such like) then they will let you in without a problem. It's not hard, is it.

Oh and don't get me started on Tamil protests in Toronto
Old 11 May 2009, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by corradoboy
I have not worked continuously since the age of 16 for up to 80 hours a week paying every due requested of me to provide free housing and financial support for anybody whom thinks it is acceptable to not make every effort to sustain their own existence.
Yes you have mate! Welcome to the new tree hugger world!!
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Trouble is, they must actively want them here in the hope they will vote for them. "Wislon" tried that in Idi Amin's time only to find that the immigrants all voted for the Conservatives!

Do you really think that illegal immigration is only a minor problem then Martin?

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Originally Posted by Martin2005
How very unlike Berlusconi, coming up with some nasty populist cleptrap to distract attention from his public and private messes. Well done SN for not falling for it.
Lay off the crack!

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Originally Posted by Leslie
Do you really think that illegal immigration is only a minor problem then Martin?

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with a UK population of some 65 million - estimate of illegals around 750,000 1,000,000 - 1 in 65-70 is an illegal - not good news, we have no idea who is here, why they are here, their backgrounds, what crimes they have co mmitted or intend to commit - if they want to come here, are decent people then why not go the legal route???

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Old 11 May 2009, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
with a UK population of some 65 million - estimate of illegals around 1million - 1 in 65 is an illegal - not good news, we have no idea who is here, why thwey are here, their backgrounds, what crimes they have co mmitted or intend to commit - if they want to come here, are decent people then why not go the legal route???
EXACTLY! There is a process, use it! What has always annoyed me, specifically when it comes to asylum seekers, is that, unless I'm mistaken, you are meant to claim asylum in the first country, outside the one you are "escaping" from. Explain to me how you can get to the UK without visiting another country first as we are this little thing called and island. I'm pretty sure there are no direct boat or aircraft flights from quite a few of these far off places, and thus you must arrive, even if it's only a stop-over, at another country on the way, so why not simply claim asylum there. Ah, yes, I forgot, the UK is an easy touch, all your illegal friends have told you about this, so you're coming to sponge off the system.
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Ill bet a lot of these people dont and have never owned a passport because they could never afford one even if it were possible
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Originally Posted by Markus
EXACTLY! There is a process, use it! What has always annoyed me, specifically when it comes to asylum seekers, is that, unless I'm mistaken, you are meant to claim asylum in the first country, outside the one you are "escaping" from. Explain to me how you can get to the UK without visiting another country first as we are this little thing called and island. I'm pretty sure there are no direct boat or aircraft flights from quite a few of these far off places, and thus you must arrive, even if it's only a stop-over, at another country on the way, so why not simply claim asylum there. Ah, yes, I forgot, the UK is an easy touch, all your illegal friends have told you about this, so you're coming to sponge off the system.
Quite, many travel from all over Africa, the East, and far flung europe travelling 1000's of miles through many, many european countries to get HERE to the UK!

Should be deported back home or to the forst EU county they entered on leaving their own, no paper or proff then DNA will quickly establish where they came from, then need to stop ******* about and get robust and tough about this!
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Martin, what is your home address...... everytime I see some illegal immigrant, raping the once great nation that is England, I will kindly tell them that majority of people wish they would **** off back to the **** hole they came from but there is one guy who will be happy to love you to death and then give them your address.
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
Quite, many travel from all over Africa, the East, and far flung europe travelling 1000's of miles through many, many european countries to get HERE to the UK!

Should be deported back home or to the forst EU county they entered on leaving their own, no paper or proff then DNA will quickly establish where they came from, then need to stop ******* about and get robust and tough about this!
Well said!
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Originally Posted by hutton_d
In fact it's a socialist tactic for stopping discussion of things that they want to brush under the carpet ....

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And a New Labour tactic too
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When they do arrive and find something they don't like, or their cause "back home" needs attending to, they'll stage a protest, and disrupt people. Take a look at what the Tamils are doing in Toronto at present. They unlawfully protested and closed a major downtown highway last night (two weeks ago they shut down one of the main streets for three days before the police had the ***** to move them on).
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WTF is Tofu and why would tree hugging rabbit ******** be interested in toffuu/toffee or whatever it is?

As for those coloured people, don't worry, I got my bags packed and ready for when I get told to bugger off
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I believe Tofu is some soy based foodstuff that can be used to replace meat. The veggies love it because it's not meat.
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Originally Posted by hutton_d
They're here in London too ... Traffic In Westminster Is Brought To A Standstill As Hundreds Of Tamil Protesters Stage Sit-In | UK News | Sky News

Funny how Sky are reporting it as a main item and on the Beeb you have to go searching ......

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500, pah, there are at least a couple of thousand that were blocking a major highway in Toronto (Imagine if the M25 ran right through the center of London, and you'll get an idea of what the Gardiner Expressway is, and how this kind of shutdown effects things). The article should have a picture of this disruption.
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This makes me laugh

'Tamil supporters, including several hunger strikers, have been camped in Parliament Square since last month.'

Why should we care if they are starving themselves? I would sit there eating great food in front of them and telling them I do not give a **** about there hunger strike.
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If they all f*cked off tomorrow - you lot would still be miserable - why don't you take a look in the mirror FFS?


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