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Old 11 April 2009, 09:56 PM
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Default Anybody been prescribed either of these (stopping smoking drugs)

Zyban or Champix.

I'm thinking about trying to get the GP to put me on them. I've tried NRT bit always end up smoking more when I come off them.

I had some medical tests last week and some of the results were down right scarey. As is the amount I've spent on smokes since Jan 1st
Old 11 April 2009, 10:07 PM
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i have tried champix but i was getting the 1/10000 symptoms

i know a lot of people who have given up smoking on champix and you can only give it a go
Old 11 April 2009, 10:15 PM
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I take it you've tried good old will power and failed?

Hard, but I stopped my 30-40 a day habit about 8 years ago. 1st two weeks were hard but then it got easier. I still dream about smoking now, actually.

Good luck with whatever you find easiest - it's never easy!

How much have you spent so far this year?
Old 11 April 2009, 10:25 PM
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I have tried will power, going to give it another try on monday (after a nice long sleep).

So far £850... or close to 3400 squid a year!! Thats alot of cash.
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There is a big giving up smoking drive in our Trust........ I'd give the local NHS phone number a ring before seeing the GP

http://smokefree.nhs.uk/?WT.mc_id=search

Have a word with the experts first

Shaun

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Old 11 April 2009, 10:54 PM
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Old 12 April 2009, 12:20 AM
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Firstly good luck in whatever approach you take.

I took zyban when everything else seemed to fail, however, I had a fit (suspected), which can be a side affect, and was promptly taken off them. It is not definite that it was caused by the tablets, but I was taken off them to be on the safe side.
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Originally Posted by Nat21
Never heard of such things. Fits? Sounds risky! Be careful folks...
I may be being oversensitive, but are you getting at something by your comment here?

The op asked for experiences of this drug, I gave mine, you then jump on with pretty much nothing to add, other than to seemingly have an underlying dig at me, yet again.

I could be misreading, but that's how it comes across, especially as I well know your views on smoking.
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Bit of self discipline........

Worked for me. Was 'kin hard but worked.
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All I can recommend, Simon, is Allan Carrs book, smoking is not physical addiction, but all in the mind.

Bit crazy you had a fit though Lisa!
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
Bit of self discipline........

Worked for me. Was 'kin hard but worked.
You still in a mood with me?
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Originally Posted by Dedrater
All I can recommend, Simon, is Allan Carrs book, smoking is not physical addiction, but all in the mind.

Bit crazy you had a fit though Lisa!
It's one of the possible side effects. However, it's not the only one I've ever had, so could be totally unrelated, but then again, who knows. I can only go by what the doctors advice was.

At the end of the day, it is only a fairly small risk, and if he decides to try them, the doctor/ stop smoking advisor will no doubt go through all the risks and benefits.
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Sounds weird, but worked for me.

When I got the major cravings for a smoke I'd down a pint of water. After 3 or 4 pints I'd lose the urge and be p1ssing loads.

I was a fitness person anyway, despite being a smoker, but it worked.....
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Originally Posted by Dedrater
You still in a mood with me?
Never was..... Love you
Old 12 April 2009, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Nat21
Whoahhh, over-reaction!

Not getting at anything. Big respect to anyone trying to quit.

I'm on medication right now that i have to take that can have serious side-effects too. It's not nice.

I wouldn't want anyone else taking meds that could have such serious side-effects if they don't absolutely have too, which in the case of giving up smoking they don't.
You love to pick out certain bits of a post. I did say more than once that I could be taking it the wrong way.

Anyhow, I understand what you say, as FP, but some people are weaker than others, or just can't kick the habit as easily as some, so a tablet which is often very successful, is quite appealing when all else seems to have failed.
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Originally Posted by Nat21
Whoahhh, over-reaction!
I dont think so Nat, good on you Lisa, personal experience is what is all about.

Pierre: xxx
Old 12 April 2009, 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Lisawrx
You love to pick out certain bits of a post. I did say more than once that I could be taking it the wrong way.

Anyhow, I understand what you say, as FP, but some people are weaker than others, or just can't kick the habit as easily as some, so a tablet which is often very successful, is quite appealing when all else seems to have failed.
I'm the sick boy sort of ex-smoker.

I can go out on the lash, after 4 years of not smoking and do 40 B&H.

Next day, I will have one after a fry-up, and then go a year or 2/3 years without touching one again.

Had on last about 18 months ago.

They disgust me now.
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Originally Posted by Nat21
I was honestly shocked that people resort to taking meds that have such serious side-effects (fits) when they don't need too (which is dependant in opionion of course).
At the end of the day, for some people, probably quite alot, will power just isn't enough. Any sort of aids for quitting, can have some side effects or another, but I guess, we as smokers weigh up the pros and cons, and think it's worth the risk, especially if we accept smoking is as dangerous as we are told.

I have the upmost respect for people who manage to do these things without any help, but I think alot of it comes down to whether you really want to, or you get to a certain point where you just do it. I was proud of my Dad when he had smoked for many years, then one day he'd had enough, felt sick, threw them away, and never looked back, never used anything to help him, he just did it.
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Search my posts Nat (especially between me and Lisa) and I would always agree with you, in principle, since then I have realised it is not so simple and I was the one with a (different) slant on people who smoke, my sister, who i have tried to stop smoking, famil
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
I'm the sick boy sort of ex-smoker.

I can go out on the lash, after 4 years of not smoking and do 40 B&H.

Next day, I will have one after a fry-up, and then go a year or 2/3 years without touching one again.

Had on last about 18 months ago.

They disgust me now.
I wish I could be like that, or give up completely, but I'm sure I'll get there eventually. (wish there was a fingers crossed smilie)

Good on you for doing so well this far, keep it up.
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I'm just lucky, Lisa.

I struggled big time at 1st
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Originally Posted by Nat21
That's what a girl i know did. To prove a point, i said she couldn't quit and wouldn't see her again unless she did. And she did, striaght away, just stopped a 15 year habbit
Well done for her.

Honestly, credit to people who kick it. As I say, it can be easy for some, yet near impossible for others, it's probably all down to our different nature.

I am just of the mind, that we need to understand that some people can have a hard time with it, and it's best to support, and try and be understanding.

I am yet to give up, but I hope I can find a way some day to it. For now, I think there is a part of me that doesn't want to do it enough, as bad as that is. At least as much as I have a bad habit, I'm honest.

Yours, the evil smoker.
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Lisa.....

Pint of water when you want one. After a day you'll be pi$$ing so much you won't have time to smoke.

After a week you'll be sick of both drinking and pi$$ing you'll find a level but your mind will be taken with both.

It worked for me. The first few weeks of it work; will power after.


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