Dishwasher Problem - your thoughts?
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Dishwasher Problem - your thoughts?
Yes, I know I can go and buy another .... but I come from a time when you never threw anything out.
The Dishwasher has been spewing water out from under it. I have located the fault ... a hole in a rubber pipe connecting the pump to the upper running tibe which feeds the upper spray arm.
I tried putting tape around it - no good as the pipe size decreases in diameter ......
Had what I thought was a fantastic idea and went out to buy a Cyclists Punture Repair Kit ............ roughed up the area, glued a patch on - and it held well, for about 15 minutes, then blew off one side (the pipe gets very hot with the water).
I have looked for the pipe on the internet and have to buy the rubber part + the upper feeder pipe and couplings ....... £38 + Delivery! All I want is the lower 4" long rubber pipe!
Any ideas on what can seal a hole in a pipe pumping hot water, on an varying diameter pipe?
The Dishwasher has been spewing water out from under it. I have located the fault ... a hole in a rubber pipe connecting the pump to the upper running tibe which feeds the upper spray arm.
I tried putting tape around it - no good as the pipe size decreases in diameter ......
Had what I thought was a fantastic idea and went out to buy a Cyclists Punture Repair Kit ............ roughed up the area, glued a patch on - and it held well, for about 15 minutes, then blew off one side (the pipe gets very hot with the water).
I have looked for the pipe on the internet and have to buy the rubber part + the upper feeder pipe and couplings ....... £38 + Delivery! All I want is the lower 4" long rubber pipe!
Any ideas on what can seal a hole in a pipe pumping hot water, on an varying diameter pipe?
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Fill a bowl with hot water adding washing up liquid whilst filling. Use a panscrub, brush or similar to agitate dirt from the submersed crockery and cutlery, place on drainer and then dry with a tea towel. Usually takes less time than loading/unloading a dishwasher, and uses less water and electricity, and cheaper products. Win, win, win !
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I have fixed holes on pipes with self amagamating tape, make sure the area is dry, roll the tape round the pipe ( couple of inches ether side of the hole ) the tape glues itself together, couple of cable ties at the end to hold the last bit down and this usually works, done a repair on a rubber hose several years ago and it has held fine.
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expanding on the puncture repair idea, how about an innertube over a puncture repair to hold it in position, i would also use a quality sillicone sealant suitable for hot water aplications between the pipe and the innertube
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Fill a bowl with hot water adding washing up liquid whilst filling. Use a panscrub, brush or similar to agitate dirt from the submersed crockery and cutlery, place on drainer and then dry with a tea towel. Usually takes less time than loading/unloading a dishwasher, and uses less water and electricity, and cheaper products. Win, win, win !
anyway what about using new pipe and reducing the diameter using a combination of cooper pipe, smaller diameter tubing and pipe clips/clamps
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I have fixed holes on pipes with self amagamating tape, make sure the area is dry, roll the tape round the pipe ( couple of inches ether side of the hole ) the tape glues itself together, couple of cable ties at the end to hold the last bit down and this usually works, done a repair on a rubber hose several years ago and it has held fine.
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Thanks all ..... the pipe is a reducing size - so impossible to get a good seal around it .... if you imagine a car radiator rubber hose that may reduce in diameter.
Self amalgamating tape looks interesting .. it isn't sticky so the info states, you stretch it over itself.
Heat shrink sleeving seem a great idea ... do they do it at about 40mm diameter?
Self amalgamating tape looks interesting .. it isn't sticky so the info states, you stretch it over itself.
Heat shrink sleeving seem a great idea ... do they do it at about 40mm diameter?
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For the benefit of Corradoboy.
The new generation of dishwashers use 11 litres of water, they also use heat exchangers to save money. Some of them use less than a unit an hour in electric. Some of them are 14 place settings, so they can handle most things from 3 meals a day. The average water usage for washing up at dinner is 63 litres, this is for one meal. Mulitply the time washing up manually three times a day and loading and unloading the dishwasher once a day.
Oh and for good measure some of the new dishwashers are so quiet that there is a buzzer to tell when they have finished. It's no wonder with so little knowledge about dishwashers that we are the worst country for take up on these energy saving green machines. Also the dishwasher is far more hygenic than washing up manually, stick your hands in water that is 65 degrees and see how long you will be washing up.
The new generation of dishwashers use 11 litres of water, they also use heat exchangers to save money. Some of them use less than a unit an hour in electric. Some of them are 14 place settings, so they can handle most things from 3 meals a day. The average water usage for washing up at dinner is 63 litres, this is for one meal. Mulitply the time washing up manually three times a day and loading and unloading the dishwasher once a day.
Oh and for good measure some of the new dishwashers are so quiet that there is a buzzer to tell when they have finished. It's no wonder with so little knowledge about dishwashers that we are the worst country for take up on these energy saving green machines. Also the dishwasher is far more hygenic than washing up manually, stick your hands in water that is 65 degrees and see how long you will be washing up.
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Am i the only one thinking £38+ delivery is alot cheaper then buying a new dishwasher and trying other methods that will not last as long?
Get your wallet out , tight ****
Get your wallet out , tight ****
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Pete our old Philips (before they became Whirlpool) dishwasher did the same: Rubber hose feeding the upper spray arm had a tiny hole in it.
I tried everything I had handy from cycle puncture repair patch, silicone sealer, glue, tape, combination of all three to no avail. It was very thin and stretchy, almost like that of an inner tube - the pressure from the pump expanded it and I think the corrosive action of the diswasher powder plus the heat broke down the vulcanising solution.
Had to buy a new hose: £40 for a 6" piece of rubber inner tube and a 2 week wait as it was on back order
Well, it was either that, or do the dishes manually. Latter was never an option
I tried everything I had handy from cycle puncture repair patch, silicone sealer, glue, tape, combination of all three to no avail. It was very thin and stretchy, almost like that of an inner tube - the pressure from the pump expanded it and I think the corrosive action of the diswasher powder plus the heat broke down the vulcanising solution.
Had to buy a new hose: £40 for a 6" piece of rubber inner tube and a 2 week wait as it was on back order
Well, it was either that, or do the dishes manually. Latter was never an option
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Pete our old Philips (before they became Whirlpool) dishwasher did the same: Rubber hose feeding the upper spray arm had a tiny hole in it.
I tried everything I had handy from cycle puncture repair patch, silicone sealer, glue, tape, combination of all three to no avail. It was very thin and stretchy, almost like that of an inner tube - the pressure from the pump expanded it and I think the corrosive action of the diswasher powder plus the heat broke down the vulcanising solution.
Had to buy a new hose: £40 for a 6" piece of rubber inner tube and a 2 week wait as it was on back order
Well, it was either that, or do the dishes manually. Latter was never an option
I tried everything I had handy from cycle puncture repair patch, silicone sealer, glue, tape, combination of all three to no avail. It was very thin and stretchy, almost like that of an inner tube - the pressure from the pump expanded it and I think the corrosive action of the diswasher powder plus the heat broke down the vulcanising solution.
Had to buy a new hose: £40 for a 6" piece of rubber inner tube and a 2 week wait as it was on back order
Well, it was either that, or do the dishes manually. Latter was never an option
Whats a new dishwasher? £150 maybe?
I'll have a chat with the lads at work tomorrow .... I'm sure they will have an answer.
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Wrap a narrow strip of inner tube around the pipe and then use insulating tape wrapped tightly around that.
Repeat every 6 months.
dl
Repeat every 6 months.
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Perhaps you could lay underneath the dishwasher and grip hold of the pipe, as tight as you grip hold of your money, can't see anything leaking out of something that tight
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Cut pipe in two, insert a piece of copper pipe or similar, secure with jubilee clips and/or impact adhesive, water seal, inner tube glue etc.
Would that work?
Would that work?
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would be my first idea. thats what I did to my cars radiator piping when I was on too tight a budget to fix it and it worked a treat
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So the pipe reduces in size, nothing that cant be fixed.
Your options are:
Does it have to be a tapering pipe? you could replace it with a constant diameter
pipe.(have you looked at that posibility)
Cut the pipe, pop in a reducer with a couple of jubilee clips
Google Image Result for http://www.pexsupply.com/img/categoryImages/Viega-Propress-Copper-Reducer%20FTGxC.gif
Google Image Result for http://www.pexsupply.com/img/categoryImages/Viega-Propress-Copper-Reducer%20CxC.gif
http://globalmetalgroup.com/image/reducinnconcre.gif
Replace it with some Hep hose/ fittings. they couple just about anything to anything.
Mart
Your options are:
Does it have to be a tapering pipe? you could replace it with a constant diameter
pipe.(have you looked at that posibility)
Cut the pipe, pop in a reducer with a couple of jubilee clips
Google Image Result for http://www.pexsupply.com/img/categoryImages/Viega-Propress-Copper-Reducer%20FTGxC.gif
Google Image Result for http://www.pexsupply.com/img/categoryImages/Viega-Propress-Copper-Reducer%20CxC.gif
http://globalmetalgroup.com/image/reducinnconcre.gif
Replace it with some Hep hose/ fittings. they couple just about anything to anything.
Mart
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