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Old 11 February 2009, 06:06 PM
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Too late you cyber geek.

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Old 11 February 2009, 06:09 PM
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its safer to drive the new kid about in
Old 11 February 2009, 06:12 PM
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Ask the wife to agree to it if you get the cost to change down to £15k. Then offer £14k to the dealer and work from there, giving the excuse of the wife's reluctance. You'll have fun convincing the wife and the dealer.
Old 11 February 2009, 06:12 PM
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Who wears the pyjama bottoms in your house then ?

Sorry....

Seriously if its going to cause friction leave it until another time.

There will always be cars for sale, wait until the time is better for you wife.
Old 11 February 2009, 06:14 PM
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I'm sorry but if it genuinely your money and not joint money then it's not her place to veto it. I'm not being old fashioned, just realistic. If the money was saved from your portion of the joint income and the payments are coming from your portion then it's your decision.

I'm lucky, though, MrsREV puts up with me buying ridiculous cars.
Old 11 February 2009, 06:15 PM
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John - could be a plan...

Yoza - just seems like a good time. The money is earning sod all in interest anyway and I think the market is bottoming out. Plus the Astra will soon be worth 10p.

Sadly (for now) we both wear matching pyjama bottoms it seems.
Old 11 February 2009, 06:17 PM
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You started off wrong - should have been "looking" at 58 reg 535s and drop in at every opportunity how nice they are, how perfect they would be, how much you want one and then after a couple of weeks - "look, I've been thinking about this new car and you're right, the 535 is too much right now. I've had look around and while it's not what I *really* think we should get, it would be a good *compromise* to get one of these 335s and slightly older, would save the family money too..."

Job done

But as it's too late, play up the safety and residuals angles...
Old 11 February 2009, 06:19 PM
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Safety for all the family....rated high.


Crash-test Ratings, Recalls & Consumer Reviews for the 2009 BMW 335d
Old 11 February 2009, 06:27 PM
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Take her for a test drive in it, she might fall in love.
Old 11 February 2009, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Found a high spec 56 reg 335d Touring M Sport for just over £20k with only 24k miles from a main dealer.

They have offered me just over £4k for the Ashtray (2005 1.9CDTi 150 Estate, 55k miles, bought new for £16k - but I'm realistic that it's worth naff all) so £16k to change.

I SO much want to put a deposit on it then buy it this weekend - got the cash in the bank - but wife is vetoing me.

Buggery buggery bugger. I might go and vandalise (in a reversible way) the Ashtray and say "look - it's broken/dangerous/unreliable."

Any other ideas for persuasion anyone? Seems too good an offer to miss.

Before any old fashioned blokes say "ignore her" we are very much an equal when it comes to money - we are both directors of a company that she set up but she's on maternity leave and I currently earn all the money. And have got loads of extra business in recently.

HELP!

Get her to drive the BM and 'feel' it. talk to her about the good ecomony, it being a decent price and not likely to drop a lot more, grest cruiser for long journeys, safe and reliable- lotta car for the money, you only live once, etc.

Besides, the old car is a ashtray ffs!
Old 11 February 2009, 06:33 PM
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OK, let's cut to the chase. You could have 3 arguments: 1) Im thinking of buying a new car 2) I've found a car I like 3) I want to buy that car

Or you could have 1 argument 1) I've bought a car
Old 11 February 2009, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by NotoriousREV
OK, let's cut to the chase. You could have 3 arguments: 1) Im thinking of buying a new car 2) I've found a car I like 3) I want to buy that car

Or you could have 1 argument 1) I've bought a car
Very good point!

Walk away and wait until the end of the month, new reg desperation to shift ever more depreciating stock, the part ex will not really drop anymore and has less to fall anyway

All unless you negotiate a better deal of course.
Old 11 February 2009, 08:11 PM
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Mine's the same, Astra's arent so bad
Old 11 February 2009, 08:23 PM
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just withhold all sex -- until she caves in

c'mon man -- pull your self together, works for me everytime!!!

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Old 11 February 2009, 08:52 PM
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Any clue as to why she doesn't want the car?

Is it the cost? [Could well be a local minimum right now, doom and gloom in the markets, savings likely to actually fall in value]

Don't see the need for a new car at all? [You hate the Astra, right? It's making you miserable and life's too short not to spend the daily commute feeling miserable]

Wants something different? [Can't really help that, but you're the one that'll be driving it most, right?]

I swapped my '05 STI for a 330D three years ago and it was definitely one of my better decisions - I've not regretted it for a moment. If it came with a proper manual gearbox I'd have a 335D without hesitation.

Good luck, let us know how you get on
Old 11 February 2009, 09:52 PM
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Andy - she thinks the Astra does the job fine (TBH it does do a decent job) but realises it will need to be replaced eventually. I don't hate the Astra, I just fancy something quick again. To some (not many!) the Astra is quite quick but not to me (or pretty much all of you on here!).
No arguments on the type of car though.

As for the auto - they used that because apparently the manual might not be able to handle the torque - which makes it even more appealing to me!

I'll keep on it though...
Old 11 February 2009, 10:07 PM
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Matteeboy,

I'm assuming your VAT registered? If so you can claim back £3k so the offer to take the wife away with the saving or just use it as an extra discount

I'm claiming the VAT back on the Disco i've just bought, so it stands me at just over £10k
Old 12 February 2009, 09:41 AM
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Mamoon -we are VAT registered but in my limited experience putting the word "car" anywhere near the word "business" results in being battered to death by HM R&C! I may be wrong though...
Old 12 February 2009, 09:44 AM
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I love this. All this cr@p youve spouted about wasting money on property so you chuck it away on vehicles instead

Your wife sounds like the one with the head screwed on
Old 12 February 2009, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Mamoon -we are VAT registered but in my limited experience putting the word "car" anywhere near the word "business" results in being battered to death by HM R&C! I may be wrong though...
I didn't think second hand cars were subject to VAT anyway?
Old 12 February 2009, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
I love this. All this cr@p youve spouted about wasting money on property so you chuck it away on vehicles instead

Your wife sounds like the one with the head screwed on
my old man's advice to me was "buy the most expensive house you can afford and the cheapest car you can get away with"

and tbh it stood me in pretty good stead, we have a very very good income but I wouldn't spend more than 5k on a car, but have property worth pre crash 1million, post crash 750/800K (and b4 you ask with over 60% equity)

dont be tempted with "shiny things"
Old 12 February 2009, 10:34 AM
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I do feel a bit sorry for all you car loving blokes whose wimmins only see them as tin boxes to get from A to B in. I'm the polar opposite, if I was married and my husband bought an Astra I'd probably divorce him, or at least get him psychiatric help

The faster and more ridiculous, the better for me
Old 12 February 2009, 10:44 AM
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you're screwed mate- my gf just see's cars by how they look or their colour.

nothing about safety/reliability etc.

don't you think the 3 series would just be too small though- they are pokey little cars.

I mean my wagon is good- but I admit its a small car and I really need a legacy/decent sized car in all honesty.

£20K on a motor though----- if you have the cash- fair enough- but I'm from the school of buying "whatever" for pound notes and never ever ever borrowing to do so. especially for a car- thats just suicidal.
Old 12 February 2009, 10:52 AM
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Scoobychick - she is actually a bit of a petrolhead - she learned to drive in an N reg Scooby Wagon in the days when they were a bit "specialist" And took her test in a Landie Defender.
She was very keen on the R32 and other quickish motors I've had.

Dave - thanks for your helpful input...
Old 12 February 2009, 10:59 AM
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No problem, glad to be of service
Old 12 February 2009, 11:00 AM
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just buy it. my missus couldn't believe I bought a speed boat when we lived in Scotland even though she thought it a daft idea. and even worse that we'd had it for 6 weeks before she found out

that excursion now means I'm at liberty to do what I want as she's resigned to it. go on son, be a man!
Old 12 February 2009, 11:14 AM
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Gordo - good work!

It was Mrs Matt that suggested we needed our speedboat...
Old 12 February 2009, 12:26 PM
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Nah, you don't want a 56 plate 335d touring...

Get this instead: Dark blue 07 plate 740i, hide, toys, etc. - with 3000 miles on the clock:

Autoquake Used BMW 740i For Sale 24/7 / LB07KEK Plate - Petrol - Automatic

A huge amount of car for a silly amount of money! Quite frightening really...

DN
Old 12 February 2009, 12:32 PM
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Bit on the large side!
Funnily enough I test drove the 750i for the Independent. Great car but total tech overload.


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