sarasquares

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teen crime has shot up over the years so i wondered if it had any bearing on the 'no smacking' law that was implemented some years ago


certainly makes you wonder


these days kids seem to rule the world as nothing can touch them


i would be interested on your opinions

NotoriousREV

Smacking doesn't work anyway so there's no point doing it. Hard work not doing it though, sometimes.

Moley

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I was thinking exactly the same a few weeks ago.

sarasquares

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i think i disagree i think that kids see themselves as untouchable and that is why crimes have escalated over the last few years.


what makes teenagers so different from what they used to be like?


and yes, i have smacked my daughter

tanyatriangles

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Someone once told me that kids wanted all the rights with none of the responsibility. I think they have been given what they wanted..........

And we can't just blame Labour, the Tories were in power when the cane was taken away from schools. AND they brought in all the parents' rights AT school

Diesel

Explanation.

Reason.

Argument.

Timeout.

Naughty step.

Privileges withheld.

Sent to room.

No use of computer.

No DVD's

No CBeebies.

No Indian Restaurant trips (sic)!

SMACK!!!!

All legitimate parents weapons!

Our two (both under five) have probably had about 6 smacks total, ever (and usually when they get hysterical) as the other stuff really works. But when a smack that is normally held in reserve is issued, it works far better!!!

The 'experts' get it wrong I think.

D

sarasquares

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you forgot to add the thick ear

RA Dunk

i think it has alot to do with it TBH, same as banning the belt at school, i used to be on the receiving end of it quite a bit and every time i got it i always knew my place after it....for a while anyway, then i would get it again, and i would have another quiet spell for a while and so it went through my school years lol

bottom line is kids do need to be corrected!

Diesel

And the stocks!!! LOL

hodgy0_2

have 5 kids (Inc Twins)

never smacked (min'd you they've never been to a Mac Donalds either)

always an alternative

if any of mine "play up" it usually means they are getting ill

sarasquares

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definately


i have handcuffed my son to the drainpipe in my garden when he was younger. he was determined to go out so i stopped him

MickWrx

I know it is not politically correct, but i believe smacking does make a difference, I certainly don't mean attacking your offspring like a loon..

Corporal punishment at school certainly was a deterrent too. I had the Caine at school and the ruler over the hand, and it did the trick or at least made me think twice.

It's maybe not all about the act, the fear of receiving punishment kept me on the straight and narrow, well almost. I used to fear the police not because of the chance of getting arrested, but getting a clip around the ear, then getting taken home to have another one off my mum but with slipper attached to the offending hand

I was a 70's child and an 80's teen so it was the dark ages.

JonMc

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I can't remember the last time I smacked my kids (probably just before my wife cut my hands off ). If I felt it was necessary I would do it again, but to be honest the worst I seem to get off them at the moment is tantrums and spoilt brat behavoiur which can be dealt with in other ways.

Removal of priviledges (DS, Playstation, favourite toys and staying up at weekends) often works, and failing that both my kids hate having early nights. Speaking of which they've been right grumps today because they are tired so I'm off to put them to bed. Roll on the fireworks.

RA Dunk

Ditto... some kids know where to stop when it comes to misbehaving so dont need to be corrected apart from a telling off, i wasnt one of them i needed a smack to know i had gone to far and the fear of my next smack usually ment i would behave at least for a while anyway

Dedrater

I use the 'squeeze really hard on there hand' while maintaining a smile technique

Timwinner

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I dont have kids yet so I cant comment to much, however... When I was at school (typical Surrey boys school) if I was naughty I would get my knuckles wrapped with a ruler.
If I did it again it was a cane across the back of the legs. I am not sure what the 3rd punishment was as no-one ever did it 3 times.

It worked well for me. I respected my house master, I knew when to wind my neck in.
I cant say I would be upset if the same was to happen to my children.

audioscape

i remember the the clips round the ear etc..... probably deserved it but it works, teachers throwing things at you not that there were meant to when i went to school but it still happened remember telling my dad about the chalk board rubber being lobbed at me his comment was did u deserve it.just think of the kane as a punisment then.
i can not remember kids going round stabbing each other on a daily basis when i was at school can anyone else?

Have the same thoughts though do u do remove all priviladges suffer even more greif tantrums etc for a few hours and it will fail if they are pushing the right buttons. if that fails u know what comes next........

MickWrx

I know it sounds like pink and fluffy land, but no there were no stabbings at school or at least my schools, the only real fear was getting launched over the caretakers privit hedge.

spireite

I remember my mother slapping me across the face with the slipper for giving her lip,she couldn't contain herself from laughing when i burst out laughing.I never gave her any grief again though . Only got cained once at school once was enough

Diesel

Same in my school mate - well the 'Head' had a cane that was held together by black insulating tape. Even the a mention of 'The Zebra' meant you didn't think about keying cars or being cheeky to the dinner ladies!

They probably give 'Heads' these days a biro and a form to keep order

D

jasey

Absent fathers are probably the single biggest cause of feral kids.

If you have to hit your kid then you've lost the battle already.

Skoobie Dhu

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I think this is supposed to be tongue in cheek but I'm implementing it immediately


CHILDREN TOLD TO SIT DOWN AND SHUT THE **** UP FOR 18 YEARS - The Daily Mash

MickWrx

The Zebra, I can just picture the banter, The Zebra will give you stripes

pimmo2000

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I agree with smacking children ..

I was smacked and I get up for work each day, pay all my bills on time and look after my family .. would I have if I hadn't been smacked? maybe...

I think the the problem is when some parents take it too far. Kids in my school were physically scared of their parents .. I didnt like being smacked but I didnt fear it.

Diesel

Disagree J. It worked well when the world was a better place with less crime, more manners, less PC *****-footing about and much better behaviour and general society all 'round after all

I certainly don't feel damaged by a few belts & smack for being WAY out of line when young, but I smack 0.2% of what my parents did/the way it was. Pretty good compromise I think and it WORKS!

My kids are going to be pillars of society/angels

D

jasey

All this it worked for me stuff is fine as far as it goes - The sorts of Kids that are going round sticking two fingers up at authority are doing so bacause they have no respect for others.

Hitting them will do nothing to improve things.

Sterilising them, their parents and their kids will clear it up in a generation or two.

jonc

Its also the PC culture and the ligatious society that we live in. Teacher disciplines pupil, parents sues, parent smacks child, parent gets arrested and reported to social services, remonstrate with a kids damaging your property, you get arrested, a minor persistantly shoplifts/vandalise property/generally cause a nuisence, Police are powerless to do anything except give them a ticking off, kids break the law to gain "respect" from their peers; Is it any wonder that kids have no respect for authority. Now they go round in gangs and stab and shoot each other.

Discipline and respect have to instilled at an early stage, not when they're in a youth detention or prision. Its too late then.

jasey

I'm sure they will be.

But it will be because you've brought them up correctly - not because you've hit them while you were doing it .

Kids should be smacked - but not to teach them discipline - but to teach them there's always gonna be a big bugger willing to hit you !

gallois

i have 2 boys 14 and 11. i have never ever hit them, some parents need to use violence as part of their discipline, but it is not productive and encourages violence. my dad used to hit me, and although i forgive him as he did what he thought was right at the time, i became a violent and agressive child as i thought thats what it is supposed to be like when someone makes you angry, it was only when i went to the big school and got into many fights and had a few hidings that i realised it was not good, and i will never put my kids through that. it makes me so upset to see an adult who is 2 or 3 times the size of a child hit the child, there is always another way.