Strike over foreign workers
29 January 2009, 02:50 PM
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30 January 2009, 02:23 PM
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If I lived near there I would join the demonstrators. I think they are right to protest. Stuff the Eu and its regulations I say, its time the authorities stuck behind their announcemen of British Jobs for British workers.
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30 January 2009, 02:56 PM
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Good luck to them.
An Italian company wins a contract, and instead of hiring local skilled workers, the ship in 300 foreigners to do the work instead.
TBH this could just be the start. We've put up with ever increasing number of foreign workers coming to our shores, but it didn't seem too bad, as the economy was booming. Now British workers are losing jobs left right, and centre, there is bound to be bad feelings when Mr. X is sat at home earning £35 a week on Benefits with a family to support, when a foreign worker is getting paid to do a job Mr. X is more than skilled to do.
This is just the start.........
An Italian company wins a contract, and instead of hiring local skilled workers, the ship in 300 foreigners to do the work instead.
TBH this could just be the start. We've put up with ever increasing number of foreign workers coming to our shores, but it didn't seem too bad, as the economy was booming. Now British workers are losing jobs left right, and centre, there is bound to be bad feelings when Mr. X is sat at home earning £35 a week on Benefits with a family to support, when a foreign worker is getting paid to do a job Mr. X is more than skilled to do.
This is just the start.........
30 January 2009, 02:56 PM
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Not sure why we should pay extra so some bloke from this country can scratch his bum and have a lot of tea breaks.
Don't get me wrong if it is a choice between Brits and others then we should definately give it to the Brits but they have to compete. Giving someone the job as a right or because it is legislated for simply breeds inefficiency.
EDIT - The last part of the comment is generally, i'm not up for all the quota of black disabled lesbians etc either, best person for the job should get the job.
What we need to do here is find out why a British company, with British staff couldn't outbid this lot who are putting the staff up in barges on the river FFS!
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30 January 2009, 03:05 PM
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Got to remember all these jobs the foreigners are in were available ages ago when we had many unemployed lazy **** brits sat at home earning benefits.
Dont get me wrong, there are some good people out there struggling for work and want to work. Swings and roundabouts IMO. Nobody is entitled to ****.
Dont get me wrong, there are some good people out there struggling for work and want to work. Swings and roundabouts IMO. Nobody is entitled to ****.
30 January 2009, 03:10 PM
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It's not quite as simple as that though. I'm in construction, and our liability insurance premium jumped 100% a year or so ago. We've never made a claim in 15 years of trading, but overnight we had to pay £150k a year. Now, consider having your overheads shoot up overnight. Also, all the other Taxes new labour has squeezed out of British companies. Fuel increases etc etc, and British companies have there hands tied behind there backs when it comes to competing with foreign companies.
30 January 2009, 03:20 PM
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It's not quite as simple as that though. I'm in construction, and our liability insurance premium jumped 100% a year or so ago. We've never made a claim in 15 years of trading, but overnight we had to pay £150k a year. Now, consider having your overheads shoot up overnight. Also, all the other Taxes new labour has squeezed out of British companies. Fuel increases etc etc, and British companies have there hands tied behind there backs when it comes to competing with foreign companies.
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30 January 2009, 03:21 PM
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1. They have never had a government that has removed strker's rights, removed union rights and even removed the working man's RIGHT to strike.
The Tories, and lately Labour, have done all three.
2. The French Police, CRS etc all belong to unions, so will not interfere with other unions' actions, unless there is excessive violence.
3. They do not have a police force who are an auxilliary set of enforcers and bullies for the government.
The Tories, and lately Labour, have done all three.
2. The French Police, CRS etc all belong to unions, so will not interfere with other unions' actions, unless there is excessive violence.
3. They do not have a police force who are an auxilliary set of enforcers and bullies for the government.
30 January 2009, 03:22 PM
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It's not quite as simple as that though. I'm in construction, and our liability insurance premium jumped 100% a year or so ago. We've never made a claim in 15 years of trading, but overnight we had to pay £150k a year. Now, consider having your overheads shoot up overnight. Also, all the other Taxes new labour has squeezed out of British companies. Fuel increases etc etc, and British companies have there hands tied behind there backs when it comes to competing with foreign companies.
Not only that, but the tendering process in just about every major construction project is riddled with corruption & back-handers.
30 January 2009, 03:24 PM
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It's not quite as simple as that though. I'm in construction, and our liability insurance premium jumped 100% a year or so ago. We've never made a claim in 15 years of trading, but overnight we had to pay £150k a year. Now, consider having your overheads shoot up overnight. Also, all the other Taxes new labour has squeezed out of British companies. Fuel increases etc etc, and British companies have there hands tied behind there backs when it comes to competing with foreign companies.
Anyway, that was the point of this bit "What we need to do here is find out why a British company, with British staff couldn't outbid this lot who are putting the staff up in barges on the river FFS!"
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30 January 2009, 03:48 PM
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A £100k overhead ontop of your competitor can have a major effect your tender price.
It's not just greedy British companies out for what they can get.
30 January 2009, 03:55 PM
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I have an idea. Lets introduce a 80/20 rule, (I know it already exists in sales and other industries) but lets say that a company can only employ 20% of its workforce from outside the UK.
Run the country I could.
Aren't they going to do that in Football too?
Run the country I could.
Aren't they going to do that in Football too?
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30 January 2009, 04:04 PM
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Good. It's about time there was mass unrest at the way the government has allowed the EU member states to walk all over the UK.
People are at the point now when they have had enough of the exploitation and the lack of will on behalf of Nu Labour to stand up to the Eurocrats in Brussels. This is genuine and quite justified anger.
Maybe it's the start of the revolution that will put an end to this ghastly, incompetent and unelected regime that is in the process of destroying what's left of our economy.
People are at the point now when they have had enough of the exploitation and the lack of will on behalf of Nu Labour to stand up to the Eurocrats in Brussels. This is genuine and quite justified anger.
Maybe it's the start of the revolution that will put an end to this ghastly, incompetent and unelected regime that is in the process of destroying what's left of our economy.
30 January 2009, 04:09 PM
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Personally I think its a great idea. Companies should scour the world to get cheap labour and replace all British workers. 
Then when we're all at home on £35 a week, and their is no-one buying any of our goods, as foreign workers send most of their money home, we can put the shutters up and turn out the lights as the UK will be finished for good.
Bosses. Your employee is also your customer. If he has no money, he doesn't buy your goods/services.
Then when we're all at home on £35 a week, and their is no-one buying any of our goods, as foreign workers send most of their money home, we can put the shutters up and turn out the lights as the UK will be finished for good.
Bosses. Your employee is also your customer. If he has no money, he doesn't buy your goods/services.
30 January 2009, 04:12 PM
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... but 'British jobs for British workers' ...
See Gregor Gall: Gordon Brown's slogan 'British jobs for British workers' has come back to haunt him, as workers' protests gather momentum | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
" ... What gives these views real purchase is that Gordon Brown, when chancellor in 2007, promised "British job for British workers" and, judging by the strikers' placards, they have not forgotten this. Indeed, the slogan has come back to haunt No10: while Gordon Brown tells his audience at Davos that "protectionism protects nobody", a Downing Street spokesman has the awkward job of maintaining that the prime minister has no cause to regret his earlier words ..."
Flash really hasn't got a clue beyond the next sound bite. Even if it doesn't tally with the last sound bite from his lips. Though 'British jobs for British workers' is something I can agree with him on. The tide must be turning though as even most of the comments to this Guardian piece are anti-Flash ....
Dave
PS: have you seen the video from Davos when Flash's phone goes off in his speech - twice!!!! BBC NEWS | Special Reports | Davos World Economic Forum 2009 | Brown interrupted by his mobile
" ... What gives these views real purchase is that Gordon Brown, when chancellor in 2007, promised "British job for British workers" and, judging by the strikers' placards, they have not forgotten this. Indeed, the slogan has come back to haunt No10: while Gordon Brown tells his audience at Davos that "protectionism protects nobody", a Downing Street spokesman has the awkward job of maintaining that the prime minister has no cause to regret his earlier words ..."
Flash really hasn't got a clue beyond the next sound bite. Even if it doesn't tally with the last sound bite from his lips. Though 'British jobs for British workers' is something I can agree with him on. The tide must be turning though as even most of the comments to this Guardian piece are anti-Flash ....
Dave
PS: have you seen the video from Davos when Flash's phone goes off in his speech - twice!!!! BBC NEWS | Special Reports | Davos World Economic Forum 2009 | Brown interrupted by his mobile
30 January 2009, 04:16 PM
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PS: have you seen the video from Davos when Flash's phone goes off in his speech - twice!!!! BBC NEWS | Special Reports | Davos World Economic Forum 2009 | Brown interrupted by his mobile
BTW - notice (as always) the complete absence of any sort of apology that would have come naturally to a normal person in such a situation.
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30 January 2009, 04:20 PM
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Ananova - Walkouts As Oil Plant Anger Grows
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are you watching flash 
Rumour as it Ferrybridge and Eggborough will be next
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are you watching flash Rumour as it Ferrybridge and Eggborough will be next
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