Strike over foreign workers
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I work in the print trade, and the company I work for hires in a great many agency immigrant workers on a temporary basis. Our government allow this to happen by not imposing regulations designed to ensure British people get British jobs. I believe each one costs us around £15/hr which goes to the agency, whom then pay the migrant NMW, creaming the rest for themselves. I am sure this works out cheaper economically for our company as they don't get holidays, sick pay or pension entitlements, and the agency meets all their tax/NI contributions. It also means they can reduce/increase the workforce at a whim as production demands it, so it's a win/win/win all 'round for the companies.
I recall seeing a documentary a few years ago about the building of a mosque in London where all the builders and stone masons were employed in India under Indian laws, and paid Indian wages in India whilst being kept in accommodation on site, with all sustenance provided. I commented at the time that this practise was sure to increase as the financial benefits outweigh any moral obligations. Looking beyond the initial balance sheet however, when you have a nation of 60m+ people whom are all unemployed, these companies will have starved themselves of their own market
I recall seeing a documentary a few years ago about the building of a mosque in London where all the builders and stone masons were employed in India under Indian laws, and paid Indian wages in India whilst being kept in accommodation on site, with all sustenance provided. I commented at the time that this practise was sure to increase as the financial benefits outweigh any moral obligations. Looking beyond the initial balance sheet however, when you have a nation of 60m+ people whom are all unemployed, these companies will have starved themselves of their own market
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Strange to note that the two most Euro-sceptic countries also fully implement the MOST EU directives, (us and Denmark), whereas the two most Europhile countries, (France and Germany), implement the least, ignoring those which do not benefit THEIR country.
Time Labour took a look at that idea........................oh no ..............wait............then they couldn't blame the EU for everything could they?
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Ananova - Walkouts As Oil Plant Anger Grows
More walkouts are you watching flash
Rumour as it Ferrybridge and Eggborough will be next
More walkouts are you watching flash
Rumour as it Ferrybridge and Eggborough will be next
Not just watching, thinking how he can spin the situation to show how much he's in tune with his Union colleagues. Just like his old mate James Callaghan was.
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The demonstrators are local men who are qualified and experienced to do the work yet they are unemployed because the work is given to foreigners then that is just wrong.
When a British company gets a foreign contract then they have to employ local labour with the exception of higher management positions. I know of an oil rig that has just made its British manual workers redundant because they have moved the rig to Greece and have to employ local greeks (which is fair enough) but then when our own cant get work on the doorstep because its full of Italians then it just takes the p1ss.
When a British company gets a foreign contract then they have to employ local labour with the exception of higher management positions. I know of an oil rig that has just made its British manual workers redundant because they have moved the rig to Greece and have to employ local greeks (which is fair enough) but then when our own cant get work on the doorstep because its full of Italians then it just takes the p1ss.
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PS: have you seen the video from Davos when Flash's phone goes off in his speech - twice!!!! BBC NEWS | Special Reports | Davos World Economic Forum 2009 | Brown interrupted by his mobile
It was Tony Blair phoning up to gloat.
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lol - I see that The 13th Duke of Wybourne is still alive and well and commenting on the Guardian article.
Gregor Gall: Gordon Brown's slogan 'British jobs for British workers' has come back to haunt him, as workers' protests gather momentum | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
There no longer appear to be any Nu Labour supporters left, even among the Guardian readers these days.
Gregor Gall: Gordon Brown's slogan 'British jobs for British workers' has come back to haunt him, as workers' protests gather momentum | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
There no longer appear to be any Nu Labour supporters left, even among the Guardian readers these days.
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It's amazing how words can come back to haunt.This isn't anything new though things have been building up to this point for some time.Now with all these job cuts and what not,it's just pushed British workers to the limit of anger and protest sooner.What get's frustrating too is when you get these experts saying well were in Europe so British workers can go get jobs in France for example if they want to,well that's true.But country's like France,belgium,spain,etc,will always put their own Nationality first before any other regardless of being in Europe.Seems like the Brits are smacked in the face and pushed out again.Gordon Clown saying he understands is laughable..
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I'm glad you mention that it's the government's fault, UB
Strange to note that the two most Euro-sceptic countries also fully implement the MOST EU directives, (us and Denmark), whereas the two most Europhile countries, (France and Germany), implement the least, ignoring those which do not benefit THEIR country.
Time Labour took a look at that idea........................oh no ..............wait............then they couldn't blame the EU for everything could they?
Strange to note that the two most Euro-sceptic countries also fully implement the MOST EU directives, (us and Denmark), whereas the two most Europhile countries, (France and Germany), implement the least, ignoring those which do not benefit THEIR country.
Time Labour took a look at that idea........................oh no ..............wait............then they couldn't blame the EU for everything could they?
it could actually be the death of us that we havnt joined up fully
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I have no problem with foreign workers being employed to work on UK sites
British workers* are amongst the laziest I've ever encountered, they've had it so easy for too many years, and all thanks to the Union policies that so successfully crippled our automotive industry in the '70s and the mines in the '80s
* Strangely this appears to be a UK based issue only, whenever one encounters British workers abroad, especially in the petrochemical industry, they are definitely amongst the most dedicated, and hardest working
British workers* are amongst the laziest I've ever encountered, they've had it so easy for too many years, and all thanks to the Union policies that so successfully crippled our automotive industry in the '70s and the mines in the '80s
* Strangely this appears to be a UK based issue only, whenever one encounters British workers abroad, especially in the petrochemical industry, they are definitely amongst the most dedicated, and hardest working
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I'm fully behind all the protesters as i am one of many many experienced riggers in the local area who could of had a job on this site.I will be there Monday morning as we have to unite and unite as one
British jobs for British workers don't make me laugh.Brown you are a lying b@sterd
British jobs for British workers don't make me laugh.Brown you are a lying b@sterd
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[quote=CrisPDuk;8468603]I have no problem with foreign workers being employed to work on UK sites
British workers* are amongst the laziest I've ever encountered, they've had it so easy for too many years, and all thanks to the Union policies that so successfully crippled our automotive industry in the '70s and the mines in the '80s
Do you work in the construction/petro chem industry
British workers* are amongst the laziest I've ever encountered, they've had it so easy for too many years, and all thanks to the Union policies that so successfully crippled our automotive industry in the '70s and the mines in the '80s
Do you work in the construction/petro chem industry
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I'm fully behind all the protesters as i am one of many many experienced riggers in the local area who could of had a job on this site.I will be there Monday morning as we have to unite and unite as one
British jobs for British workers don't make me laugh.Brown you are a lying b@sterd
British jobs for British workers don't make me laugh.Brown you are a lying b@sterd
So EU law is against the strikers and I can see this as a big wake up call for those that have blindly said 'of course we should be in the EU'. Let's have a winter of discontent and then an election.
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This is probably why a £200m contract went to italy??? Wembley had an original price of £200m but ended up at £715m on completion. Britain screws itself ?????
BBC SPORT | Special Events | Wembley | The real price of stadia
BBC SPORT | Special Events | Wembley | The real price of stadia
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This is probably why a £200m contract went to italy??? Wembley had an original price of £200m but ended up at £715m on completion. Britain screws itself ?????
BBC SPORT | Special Events | Wembley | The real price of stadia
BBC SPORT | Special Events | Wembley | The real price of stadia
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Wembley was full of workers from Portugal as was Terminal 5 and i don't hold any hope of getting a rigging job in the east end of London for the 2012 games
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WHY????????????????
It's NOT the fault of the EC, it's the fault of the thicko Labour government who implement EVERY little EC directive TO THE HILT, instead of looking for the ones that benefit THE UK and ignoring the rest......you know, like the French and Germans do for their countries
But as I said before, if Labour started to do that, they'd have no-one left to blame when THEIR sh*t hit the fan, would they?
It's NOT the fault of the EC, it's the fault of the thicko Labour government who implement EVERY little EC directive TO THE HILT, instead of looking for the ones that benefit THE UK and ignoring the rest......you know, like the French and Germans do for their countries
But as I said before, if Labour started to do that, they'd have no-one left to blame when THEIR sh*t hit the fan, would they?
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This is probably why a £200m contract went to italy??? Wembley had an original price of £200m but ended up at £715m on completion. Britain screws itself ?????
BBC SPORT | Special Events | Wembley | The real price of stadia
BBC SPORT | Special Events | Wembley | The real price of stadia
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I'm fully behind all the protesters as i am one of many many experienced riggers in the local area who could of had a job on this site.I will be there Monday morning as we have to unite and unite as one
British jobs for British workers don't make me laugh.Brown you are a lying b@sterd
British jobs for British workers don't make me laugh.Brown you are a lying b@sterd
Does anyone know where that barge is docked?
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I have no problem with foreign workers being employed to work on UK sites
British workers* are amongst the laziest I've ever encountered, they've had it so easy for too many years, and all thanks to the Union policies that so successfully crippled our automotive industry in the '70s and the mines in the '80s
British workers* are amongst the laziest I've ever encountered, they've had it so easy for too many years, and all thanks to the Union policies that so successfully crippled our automotive industry in the '70s and the mines in the '80s
Stop talking CRAP about British Workers, you obviously have little experience of them.
And as for the unions...........who has crippled the car industry now? themselves, by charging higher prices in the UK than anywhere else in Europe, in an effort to keep prices LOW for mainland Europe, followed by the Labour party with it's stupid anti-motoring taxes