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Old 27 January 2009, 06:23 PM
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Default RC Helicopters, how hard can it be?

I got one of those cheap 2D micro helicopters for crimbo and had great fun flying it around but I soon got bored of the limitations of it. So as it was my Birthday yesterday I bought myself a proper one! It's an ESky Honey Bee 4ch. Boy is it hard to fly I've crashed it twice already, thanfully with no lasting damage.
My question is this: The flight sim software that came with is not compatible with Vista and the codes for it have not been released yet. There is a "fix" for it but it does not seem to work.(not for me anyway). I really need to spend some time on a sim before I destroy the real thing! Does anyone know where I can get a sim? I don't mind paying for it within reason.
Any thoughts or experiences welcome
Old 27 January 2009, 06:30 PM
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get two long pieces of round balsa wood and 4 ping pong *****. make a cross with the pieces of balsa and add a ball to the end of each of the ends, strap it carefully to the heli, and practice slowly!

similar to this
Old 27 January 2009, 07:02 PM
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Shaggys right - get a flying aid - or make one.

I have a few 4 channel Helis now ... they are not eay to fly, but one day it just 'happens' and on you go.

The biggest thing I did wrong was on the advice of the 'experts' ..... they said just make the Heli 'light' and then lift a few inches off the floor to get grips with forward/backwards left/right and rotating.

Don't faff about an inch or two off the ground - get it up as fast as you can to about 4 foot up ...... this gets it out of the turbulence and then you can deal with it, GOOD LUCK!
Old 27 January 2009, 07:15 PM
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have a look here RC Helicopters Forum - Heliguy.com :: Index plenty of good advice and tips on there

what helis you got SSU? any pics/vids?
richie (esky lama4 and a couple of maplin 3 and 4 channel coaxials)
Old 27 January 2009, 07:24 PM
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Bell 47, Hawk, small Mosquito and a Thunder Tiger Mini Titan.

I have planes, tanks, cars, speedboats and yatchs ........
Old 27 January 2009, 07:41 PM
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Old 27 January 2009, 08:07 PM
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Old 27 January 2009, 08:12 PM
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Yeah I have the training aid which does make it easier. SSU , I was thinking the same about just getting it up and then dealing with it. Just scared to do it. Any of you guys got a decent flight sim?
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It is terrifying ...... until you finally lift it up a decent hieght - then you will wonder why you kept scooting about the floor!
Old 27 January 2009, 08:17 PM
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Ive got a walkera 4 3b, its great fun, when i can get it off the ground. I found the easiest way to get it up is giv it full throttle 2 get it off the ground then immediately drop it down to about 1/3 - 1/4 throtle, this should keep you about 4foot up and then jst try and trim it out to get it to hover. I still crash mine all the time but as its a micro i can just catch it
Old 27 January 2009, 08:21 PM
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i been flying nitro helis for years and the simple answer mate is practise and i mean lots of it and in small steps. it takes a while but then it will click. defo go for the crossed sticks with ***** on to help stop it going over, and like sunnysideup says get it out of the ground effect (turbulence).
good luck
Old 27 January 2009, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SunnySideUp
Bell 47, Hawk, small Mosquito and a Thunder Tiger Mini Titan.

I have planes, tanks, cars, speedboats and yatchs ........
planes are so cheap en evilbay these days i quite fancy a bash-usually run an 1/8th scale buggy-speedboat sounds fun as well mind as i have a decent river 100 yds from my house-lipo and brushless have transformed the leccy game theses days i think
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Old 27 January 2009, 08:52 PM
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Its a hard thing to learn, just practice the hover. I bought a Hoverfly indoor chopper, helped me no end.
Old 27 January 2009, 08:59 PM
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Going to psych my self up tommorow and just go for it. I might be ordering some spares though I see your point about just getting it up quickly, so to speak. This was evident even with the the small micro one I had. Once I just gunned it and got it flying it was much easier to control instead of just blowing dust around on the floor! The blades are quite robust but the problem I forsee is the small linkages on the servo motors, they look very "breakable". Off to the website now to buy some bits. Not that I'm pessimistic or anything

Nice chopper you got there shaggy
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What does the 4 channels actualy control?

never tried a 4chan one yet, i bought a cheap RC plane for my brothers kid as a christmas present once and some how unboxed it just to check it all the parts were inside, next thing you know i have built it up and had took it down to a car park to test it, a short while later it was just about to crash into the river tyne so i did an evasive manuver got it back above dry land and spanked it into the car park floor

bought him a cheap micro heli instead
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Speed/Height

Fore/Aft

Left/Right

Rotate Clockwise/Counter Clockwis

That's your 4 Channels.
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right stick is forward backwards left and right while body facing in a straight line-left stick is throttle(up and down) and rotate left and right around the axis of the blades-ie go round in circles
sounds easy doesnt it(its not as my blade bill will testify)
richie
Old 27 January 2009, 09:26 PM
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It's like balancing a ball bearing in the centre of a tray.
Old 27 January 2009, 09:29 PM
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more like balancing a bb on an upside down bowl in my case still but ive only been trying about 15 hrs so far
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Old 27 January 2009, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by SunnySideUp
It's like balancing a ball bearing in the centre of a tray.
Whilst drunk, on a boat in the middle of a force 10 gale I WILL master it!
Old 27 January 2009, 09:32 PM
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tempted to rent a badminton court in the local school/les centre for an hours big area flight with no wind practise-anyone tried this?
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Originally Posted by Richiehash
tempted to rent a badminton court in the local school/les centre for an hours big area flight with no wind practise-anyone tried this?
richie
It's a good idea - but they can be breezy places, check windows and doors!
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how big is a squash court?-they are sealed units near me
richie-just used up a full batt in a 12 by 15 room full of crap with one loss of control only
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YouTube - Extreme E-Sky Lama V3 House Tour! neat flying coaxial
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That's bloody good flying!
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Do what I've done - and before you buy the real thing get a good simulator - you'll soon save the cost by not having to buy spares when you crash, crash and crash again!

Check out: Professional model flight simulation

It's awesome... and very realistic - and makes for very good practice. Cost about £100 with a compatible transmitter.

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Originally Posted by Richiehash

No one likes a smart ***
Old 27 January 2009, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr.No
Do what I've done - and before you buy the real thing get a good simulator - you'll soon save the cost by not having to buy spares when you crash, crash and crash again!

Check out: Professional model flight simulation

It's awesome... and very realistic - and makes for very good practice. Cost about £100 with a compatible transmitter.

DN
yea but my lappy wont run any sim i know of-cheaper to practise crashing than build a base unit for the job lol
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there is a free simulator on the net somewhere, I'll try and find it for you later.
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For free, try FMS: FMS Homepage

You were looking at building a gaming PC in the Computer section richie - that'd run Phoenix nicely... ;-)


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