TopBanana

Got a decent electric shock today. Trying to a million things at once in the kitchen, I was adjusting the electric hob whilst turning the tap off at the same time. Pretty stupid I guess, but it does mean that the hob either isn't installed correctly or is faulty doesn't it?

Snazy

If you got a shock simply by touching the stove and a metal earth at the same time, then I would say yes, something is wrong. And more importantly dont let kids or oldies touch it for the time being.

RON

couldithave been abuld up of static, that simply went to earth through the tap...... the water pipes should be earthed.....

NotoriousREV

It means your wife is faulty and needs rewiring. If she was working correctly, then you would never have recieved that shock!

Aaron1978

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Aaron

mart360

Agreed,

if you do a search on google , you will find out why the new home diy electrical regs were introduced.

(it was a politician's daughter, got electrocuted exactly as you did, only she wasnt so lucky )

Fixing this has to be your top job tommorow!!!!

Mart

TopBanana

It was pretty hardcore I have to say - eyes were vibrating and everything. In through one arm out the other is supposed to be the most dangerous as it goes right across your heart. Would have been a nice surprise for the kids, wouldn't it - the bad news is that daddy's dead, the good news... no sprouts!

Jaybird-UK

dont chance it, get a professional asap

Scoobychick

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I think it means that something isn't earthed correctly, seek help, retreat to the lounge and order takeaways until rectified

scoobynewbie72

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as said above sounds like supplementry bonding isnt doing its job, the reason you earth things to give it a path to go down instead of you,
If your around Derbyshire drop me a pm and I can pop out and have a look for you if you want.

Snazy

Definatly not likely to be static then.

Like Sal said, retreat and use takeaway services until normal kitchen services can be resumed.
More importantly if this is the first time its happened, its likely that its only just getting dangerous now.

Scoobynewbie72... lovely gesture mate Good on ya

ALi-B

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Reminds me of the electric hob I had in an rented apartment I was staying in.

The neon would glow dimly, and would get brighter if I touched the hob's surround.

I was slightly drunk when I noticed this and decided to investigate further:

So I found, it glowed bright if I was barefooted. Even more brighter if I touched the sink too. I then tried it with wet hands whilst touching the sink; Bad idea Got a bit of a jolt!

I think it wasn't earthed properly and the neutral was shorting with the casing.

Snazy

lol is that for real?
The things you do when drunk eh

Hope it got fixed too, before the next pish-ed came along lol

ALi-B

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Yup. My train of thought was something like "ooo, the light comes on when I touch the hob" then I guess the engineer bit inside my head decided to see how bright I could get the neon to glow

Never bothered fixing it. I wasn't there long enough to bother with it. I should have sued the landlord though.

Red Rocket 11166

Sounds like it is down to earth,switch off at the main switch/isolator until you can get someone to look at it.

Don't mess about this could KILL YOU.

scoobynewbie72

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Electric shocks are good for the heart muscles, its the current that kills you not the voltage lol

GC8

Id expect the amperage (40A+) available from a cooker to have killed you... Do you not have mini trips and a master RCD?

TopBanana

Yes, but nothing tripped.

GC8

Were they installed by a proper sparky? Surely the master RCD should trip if theres only the smallest leakage to earth?

Luke

As mentioned. ALL you should do is turn the cooker switch off at the wall. then call in a fully qualified spark. it sounds like your cooker is "leaking" due to a insulation break down etc

And you should ban the kids from entering until its sorted.

it might be simple and a good spark wont charge you too much.

4X4BOB

Your mcb's (mini trips) won't trip as they act like fuses, and you were only taking a tiny amount.
And having mcb's doesn't mean you will deffo have an RCD which is totally different.
Even if you do have an RCD, if you have a split load CU the cooker might not be on the RCD side?

Best to get it checked by someone that knows what they are doing.

Luke

Thats why i prefer to use RCBO's all the way. costs more but does the job !

Underworld

sell the house

ALi-B

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Our RCD does not do the cooker; only eletrical outlets.

Modern wiring too.

If my regs are still up to speed, you only need RCD protection on downstairs sockets or where portable eqiupment could be used outdoors. Although its common practice to have the RCD on the upstairs and downstairs sockets. Cooker is optional (although should be RCD'd if the isolator switch has a socket built in).

tanyatriangles

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And electric showers..........

Luke

rcbo's


love those little suckers!

samcowrx

Almost correct, from last summer, the 17th ed came in, new dual split load RCD boards are now available to suit the new regs, to allow for near on the whole installation to be 30ma protected (unless a different rating is called for), including lighting circuits.

Even in the new regs, in most cases, iirc, the standalone cooker circuit, if it does not have a 13A SO on the DP switch, it does not require RCD protection.