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Old 11 December 2008, 09:14 PM
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Just been to do the last of my christmas shopping, and been thinking of buying myself another Breitling. Had one a couple of years back and regret selling it.

Narrowed it down to a Navitimer World, or a Montbrillant Legende. Prices are £4115 and £3890. Anyone have any idea what sort of price I should be looking to pay?

Without even really asking, Goldsmiths offered me the Navitimer for £3300, or £2650 and my Tag Carrera Chrono.

The Carrera is just over 2yrs old, fully boxed with papers. Should I be looking to sell this private (where?!?!) or just go for a p/x and push for a better price?

Thanks in advance for any help
Old 11 December 2008, 09:28 PM
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selling it private will be a nightmare now. As a self appointed 'expert" i have never thought Breitling to be a good watch. For the money your spending you could have a vacheron or Jaeger . Far more class and much better made. Or a top spec Seiko for £3k etc.
Old 11 December 2008, 09:36 PM
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There are certainly enough enthusiasts... 'experts' might be a bit strong though
Old 11 December 2008, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyC_772
There are certainly enough enthusiasts... 'experts' might be a bit strong though

In the last 25 years i have traded more than £100k in watches, Never ever bought a "lemon"
Old 11 December 2008, 10:03 PM
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GOLDSMITHS are doing Buy Now Pay Later as well !!
Old 11 December 2008, 10:40 PM
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Maybe I don't get watches but that stap in the ebay link looks crap.

Believe it or not, I once went to a shop, tried loads of watches on and bought the one that looked good on my wrist.
Old 11 December 2008, 10:46 PM
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I'd avoid the Breitling's as people will assume you are an easyjet pilot
Old 11 December 2008, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Nat21
I challenge you to find a better Navitimer than this for the price

1977' MINT Breitling NAVITIMER 47mm Chrono-Matic Cal.11 on eBay, also, Wristwatches, Watches, Jewelry Watches (end time 20-Dec-08 15:02:20 GMT)

Classics are the way to go if you don't want to lose a third of the value as soon as you buy it. ( unless it's a new Rolex or Pam )

Panerai are not going to last long holding values. They are again nothing special . just happen to be fashionable last few years. Marine masters (seiko) hold value very very well and are so well made you would question why people buy Rolex.


Old pre 90's Omegas and Sinns etc do very well .

But if you gave me £3k i would buy a vacheron
Old 11 December 2008, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Nat21
Everyone keeps saying Pams will be out of fashion soon but they keep hanging on in there. Crap movements, ugly as hell imo but I guess a lot of people want to look like Sly or the Transporter

nail on head !!! they have cheap movements.

seiko are far far more exclusive when you start to go High end. And as for Seikos " credor" range

CREDOR

you have to go to japan to even buy one and the quality makes Rolex look like sekonda
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Originally Posted by Nat21
I was looking at a Seiko Springdrive the other week. Beautiful. Most advanced/important movement created since Heuer and Breitling (and the other one i can't remember) made the cal11 in 1969. Once you've seen a Springdrive working EVERYTHING else looks crap in comparison. Seiko are selling them at massive losses (in v limited amounts, there isn't even a dealer in London) like Bugatti do with the Veyron. A showcase of technology that is miles ahead of anything ETA/Swatch group or Rolex make. To say i want one in a slight under-statement!

they are unreal !!! But not sure about the "power reserve" dial on them. next to any Rolex they will win hands down for quality. If you have never owned a Rolex then check out how badly the bracelet are made !!!!!! the links are terrible compared to a mid price Seiko/omega etc.
I wear a 1980's Seamaster pro and the bracelet on it is far better than on a old GMT i owned.
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I probably wear a Seiko more than anything else. Arguably the best watch manufacturer in the world.
Old 12 December 2008, 12:32 AM
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I want the limted edition chrono one but cant' get hold of one in the UK

you can.......go look in "T-Z" forum
many a good dealer who can safely send you one over. i know 3 guys who own them and they all came from the same TZ dealer in Japan
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I would love to join in...

But Im not an expert.

I am however surprised on how many experts there are here.

Luke has traded over 100 thousand pounds worth of watches, I had no idea.

Do you work in the Elizabeth Duke consession of a large Argos outlet ?

Later Yoza the small fish.
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I've just ordered an IWC UTC Edition Antoine de Saint Exupery limited edition watch, with a leather strap. I don't expect to wear this daily but it's nice to have a snappy dress watch for nights out!
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In my inexpert opinion your money would have been better spent on a Patek Philipe.....
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Originally Posted by GC8
In my inexpert opinion your money would have been better spent on a Patek Philipe.....
I looked at those, very nice, but wanted the IWC.... I was very tempted with a PP Moon Phase Power Reserve in 18K Rose Gold though. trouble is that there are sooo many nice watches out there!
Old 12 December 2008, 10:03 AM
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Casio G Shock - more accurate and reliable, a fraction of the price and bombproof.

If someone INSISTED on buying me a flash watch, I'd get a Patek or a Seiko.
Then I'd sell it.
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I feel I need a watch with an altimeter, compass and thermometer.

Good idea, or bad?
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Originally Posted by white scooby
Just been to do the last of my christmas shopping, and been thinking of buying myself another Breitling. Had one a couple of years back and regret selling it.

Narrowed it down to a Navitimer World, or a Montbrillant Legende. Prices are £4115 and £3890. Anyone have any idea what sort of price I should be looking to pay?

Without even really asking, Goldsmiths offered me the Navitimer for £3300, or £2650 and my Tag Carrera Chrono.

The Carrera is just over 2yrs old, fully boxed with papers. Should I be looking to sell this private (where?!?!) or just go for a p/x and push for a better price?

Thanks in advance for any help
I have a Navitimer World with Black leather strap. Brilliant watch. Love it to bits. Always wanted a Breitling. Bought mine just over a year ago.

I've promised myself another one next year. Either a SuperOcean, or a Chrono SuperOcean.

Looked at Rolex watches as well, but they all look very much alike. Not keen on Tag's.

I would say your prices are a little high though. I take it you're looking at the steel braclet rather than leather?

Mine was up for sale at £2975 (new), but paid just under £2500 with a discount.
You shouldn't accept anything less than 15-20% off at the moment.
I'd even try for 25-30%.

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Old 12 December 2008, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by GC8
I probably wear a Seiko more than anything else. Arguably the best watch manufacturer in the world.
I'd disagree. Bought one last year. Broke after 3 weeks.


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