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Old 04 November 2008, 08:52 PM
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frankly im sick and ****ing tired of hearing about obark barm and ginger mccain.

who ever gets in and i dont give a **** who it is,
willl do all of the following things

will do nowt for six months,
meet loads of heads of state
get a few things right,
**** a few things up.

bomb the odd school.

call a state of emergency over the odd hurricane,
attack iran.
preach a load of all american bull****, (no different from an islamic cleric)

so it dosent really mattter, so can i please get on with my nights tv viewing without being mithered to ****ing death about it all.
Old 04 November 2008, 08:53 PM
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rant over
Old 04 November 2008, 08:55 PM
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Thing is, if the race is that close, then the American people - as a whole - have already spoken.

They don't really give a toss either!

Seriously: if it were, say, a 66/33 split, then we could say that they have a fairly strong preference one way or the other. But they don't.
Old 04 November 2008, 08:56 PM
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I think that it matter massively. George W. Bush is an imbecile and we live in a very different world now, as a result of this buffoon.
Old 04 November 2008, 09:09 PM
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Obama will make everything ok again
Old 04 November 2008, 09:10 PM
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well hes out anyway, so hes not in the equation.

the black bloke will get it as his grannie has died.
that michale palin women is ok though, get rid of the old bloke and have her,

i bet john dross and russell bland are glad they are not on the telly and this has taken over.
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If he gets in theres a possiblity we'll avoid armageddon ..!
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Originally Posted by j4ckos mate
that michale palin women is ok though, get rid of the old bloke and have her,
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Old 04 November 2008, 09:13 PM
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Also - I think you are mixing up Michael and Sarah
Old 04 November 2008, 09:18 PM
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Sarah Michelle ....

id vote for her
Old 04 November 2008, 09:20 PM
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Oh yes, she would get a proper posting in her ballot box etc.
Old 04 November 2008, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
Its frightening isnt it; he gets to vote in our elections, not just comment.....
Old 04 November 2008, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by j4ckos mate
that michale palin women is ok though, get rid of the old bloke and have her,
Jesus Christ man!!
Old 04 November 2008, 09:56 PM
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i wouldn't vote for mcain personally, purely on the grounds that he would ruin a mexican wave
Old 04 November 2008, 09:58 PM
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dont get that
Old 04 November 2008, 10:00 PM
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Positive: Lot's of Americans are voting.
Negative: They are voting for politicians who will let them down.
Old 04 November 2008, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by j4ckos mate
dont get that
he can't lift his arms above his shoulders, he was tortured after being shot down. not really somethig you should take the **** out of, but he's american. therefore fair game
Old 04 November 2008, 10:39 PM
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I reckon hes had his chips
Old 04 November 2008, 10:47 PM
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mmmmm mcain chips with egg and bread
Old 04 November 2008, 11:32 PM
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I know it's a bit of a pain, but unfortunately, due to the US influence on everything globally, it is important. Personally I hope Obama gets in. I'm hoping that if he does, he'll be a bit more focused on domestic issues, and won't feel the need to get involved in global affairs quite so much.

If he does, then I bet the Secret Service will be really paranoid. I think there will be a few people that won't like having a black guy in charge.
Old 04 November 2008, 11:42 PM
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I'm only interested in the result, not the BBC's minute by minute obsessivly biased coverage ...

My advice is - don't watch....

Old 05 November 2008, 12:00 AM
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He's not black though is he? He's mixed race. If he were truly black the Democrat vote for President would be for Hillary Clinton as he would have failed in the Primaries. He's the kind of black guy white people don't mind too much i.e. a white guy with a good tan.
Will he be another JFK?
Given the choice available I'd probably vote for him, but not if I had to stand in line for 6 hours to do it.
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Old 05 November 2008, 12:48 AM
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Does the mercan press go mental over the UK election? Does it ****. So why do we get saturation coverage of theirs? And not just for a couple of weeks, it goes on for years.

Very pleased to get rid of the god squad loony, election rigging buffoon who is bush but couldn't really give a toss who succeeds him.
Old 05 November 2008, 02:05 AM
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jackos mate, it pains me to say this as I like you and your Scoobynet persona so much, but.

It's pretty ignorant of you, or anyone in the UK for that matter to not recognise the importance of this election and the impact that it's outcome will have on us here in the UK and the rest of the world. If only out of sympathy and support for our troops that are currently fighting Bush and Cheney's war in Iraq we should be paying attention. (Disclaimer, I'm not usually one to call for "support our troops", but they really are getting the sh!tty end of a very long stick at the moment and shouln't be there.)

To those that say the American's pay no attention to our politics, whether they do or not, it shouldn't sway you away from being interested, or even anxious over who wins this election.

Yes, America is insular and ignorant of anything foreign, but they also have a huge impact on the global economy and "global social optimism". If the US is doing well, generally the rest of the world is OK too.

Clearly, I'm pro-Obama, not only because his election would have a positive impact on my business, but because he represents optimism and for once in a politician seems to genuinely want to make the world a better place and seems like he will work towards that goal.

For anyone not wanting to stay up for the night, it seems like I might get my wish. Many of the networks are calling Obama in PA, VA, NC, FL, and OH which would suggest he is in for a landslide victory. So, without wanting to jinx him it seems like you can sleep sound knowing that a new sense of optimism will descend on the world tomorrow and take full effect in January '09.

Fingers crossed.
Old 05 November 2008, 02:19 AM
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I'm in California at the moment and it is the only thing that anyone is talking about, slightly odd as it is an Obama state.

Still, it looks as though he will win relatively easily.

Steve
Old 05 November 2008, 03:02 AM
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207-135 according to the BBC at the moment.

Can't quite comprehend how someone who thinks Palin is ok has the wherewithal to operate a computer. Youtube her and have a look, I'm sure you can manage that at least.

My favourite is the one where she says the 13yo girl who is raped by her father should be denied an abortion, shortly followed by 'dinosaurs walked the earth 4,000years ago'.

If McCain wins*, there's a fair chance he'll pop his clogs before his 4 years are over and we'll have someone who is actually less in touch and more conservative than that dribbling idiot running the world currently. Bear in mind that American conservatism isn't like ours. Ours is New Labour except with slightly posher accents, US version is an anti-abortion, anti-freedom, xenophobic, far right Christian with very old fashioned (read fascist) views on the world, assuming they realise that the world actually even exists on some level higher than supplying their morning coffee.


* he ain't gonna

It's extremely important that someone follows Bush who is seen to be his antithesis and I think we're going to have to settle for someone who probably has more ideals than ability, because the alternative is too horrible to contemplate. Bush and Cheney took a precarious situation in the middle east and stamped on it until they had a rather furious hornets nest. The USA need to distance themselves from their previous war crimes and try and make reparations and amends for their appalling post-WW2 behaviour.

A quick Wiki will find this definition of terrorism:

activities that involve violent… or life-threatening acts… that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State and… appear to be intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and… (C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States… [or]… (C) occur primarily outside the territorial jurisdiction of the United States
Exactly what the US (and UK) are doing in Iraq and Afghanistan then. Forcing al Qaeda to be handed over by Afghans by bombing them. Removing a sovereign head of state by force, who has committed no bellicose act towards the US or any of her allies, killing probably millions of civilians in the 2 invasions. Destroying al Shifa medical plant, which led to the deaths of thousands of civilians from malnutrition and malaria. Supporting Israel in defiance of a UN charter from 50 years ago - Israel are illegally occupying a region with America's financial and political support and attacking Palestinian civilians. The list goes on forever.

While I would never, ever condone the 9/11 attacks, you can understand why they did it.

No wonder they hate us



I am becoming more and more disheartened by how difficult it is on here to actually find replies worth reading.

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Old 05 November 2008, 04:05 AM
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*sigh*

The nightmare is over.


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